Epi-strong pct gyno help!!

[curlew]

I just finished a 6 week cycle of Epi-strong and today is day 3 of my PCT and yesterday (day 2 of PCT) I started finding both my nipples are slightly tender….no itch or lump (yet)at all… just a little tender and some puffiness. Below are the details of my On cycle supps and PCT:

Cycle
Weeks 1-6: Epi 30/30/45/45/45/45
Weeks 2-6: *HCGenerate @ 5 caps per day
Weeks 1-6: N2Guard @ 5 caps per day

*Stopped taking HCGenerate for ~2 weeks around weeks 3 and 4 because it was making me very nauseous. I was taking it before I ate…..after week 4 I tried again after my meals and it was fine.

PCT
Weeks 7-10: Clomid 50/25/25/25
Weeks 7-10: Unleashed @ 3 caps per day
Weeks 7-10: Post Cycle @ 3 caps per day
Weeks 7-10: Forma-Stanzol @ 10 pumps AM & PM
Weeks 7-10: N2Slin @ ~4 caps per day

I am pretty sure I am prone to Gyno as I had this issue when taking Beastdrol in 2010 but only developed a few very small lumps that aren’t even noticeable. These weren’t directly underneath the nipple….just in the chest area about 1/2 “ away. I used caber and letro which helped get rid of the soreness and lactating but not the puffiness.

This is the first cycle since then. I should also mention that last summer (without any hormones or steroids) I developed a lump that was very tender underneath my left nipple about the size of a small marble and had it surgically removed. My hormone levels were checked at the time and were all normal…..the doctors couldn’t figure out what caused it.

So, back to now…..should I just continue my current PCT as above or look into buying an AI suck as letro? Could it be that my clomid isn’t legit? I didn’t think I would have any issues with Gyno with EPI…epscially with Forma-Stanzol on hand

 

[RickRock13]

I would stay the course for now. You have a great PCT that should handle it, and your symptoms are mild. If it worsens you can throw some Letro in, but I would avoid it if possible. Letro is some strong shit that can wreck your joints and libido. AG Guys has great liquid letro if needed

 

[curlew]

Thanks for the response. I was contemplating dropping the clomid as I have read it could be the cause but will take your advise since they are mild symptoms (still the same today as yesterday). Going to order letro to have on hand just incase though

Wanted to mention that my strength is still increasing!! Is this normal?

 

[gymrat827]

no need for 20 pumps of forma a day, total. 5 in the am, 5 in pm is fine. And if you have gyno that will keep it from getting any worse. Letro is not what you need at this point.

Get some nolva or ralox (both serms) and run ralox @ 45mg for 10wks, if the gyno gets better slowly lower your dose on it. Nolva can be ran at 40mg for 10wks, or however long it takes for one of these two drugs to shrink the gyno. you should stay on forma this whole time, but you can lower the dose down to 3 pumps am & 3 pm. once it is gone, or you think its gone, drop the dose of ralox or nolva more and drop the forma entirely. begin to take the ralox or nolva EOD than, before you drop it completely. Your doing this to stop any rebound that may occur.

***remember*** your gyno is not gone, a good blast of tes will make it re appear. but it should be small enough for no one to notice it but you. so be careful on future cycles.....always use forma or another AI to **control** estrogen.

crashing E2 levels is not fun, so controlling the big E is key. on cycle and natty.






GL

 

[curlew]

Gyno shrink? There are no lumps , just tender and puffiness. It actually comes and goes. Today it's only in the right one?

I don't know why the tenderness and puffiness because I don't suspect my estrogen is high as my libido is back to normal and I haven't lost an ounce of strength since the end of my cycle.

 

[gymrat827]

Gyno shrink? There are no lumps , just tender and puffiness. It actually comes and goes. Today it's only in the right one?

I don't know why the tenderness and puffiness because I don't suspect my estrogen is high as my libido is back to normal and I haven't lost an ounce of strength since the end of my cycle.

you dont really have gyno than.....jus some irration most likely. Up your AI dose a bit and see how it plays out. What you have is pretty common.


if you want muscle gains to keep coming pick up a bottle of LDG. sarms1 sale may still be going on....not sure when it ends.

 

[curlew]

Yea I wasn't sure if it was earlier stage of gyno and lumps would follow but it hasn't gotten any worst since day 1 of pct. should I get nolva to have on hand just incase it flares after pct?

Muscle gains to keep coming when? During pct or after wards? First I heard of LDG

 

[curlew]

UPDATE: The sore puffy nipples turned into a lump in my right nipple(nothing in the left - just puffy). So thinking this will get worst after PCT I started taking Letro the day before my PCT ended at 0.5mg/1mg/1.5mg/2mg/2.5mg and continued at 2.5mg until my Ralox and aromasin arrived (Letro b/w Nov 9 and 20th). I wanted to switch out the letro with aromasin since it's not as harmful. I also ordered prami to have on hand incase it may be Progesterone causing it as they are both very puffy. So i'll break it out below:

Letro
Nov 9 - 0.5mg
Nov 10 - 1mg
Nov 11 - 1.5mg
Nov 12 - 2mg
Nov 13-20 - 2.5mg

Arom
Nov 21 - Today - 25mg/day
Ralox
Nov 21 - Today 60mg/day
Prami - started Nov 25th since puffiness remains
0.25mg/day

The gyno is getting worst!! I feel my e2 is low as my joints are stating to hurt. I am at a lost of whether to continue or stop the ralox and Arom and start the Letro and keep taking the prami??? Seems like when I was taking Letro is wasn't getting better but wasn't getting worst either.

Any advice would be great.