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Ephedra on its way out

serge

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More On The Forthcoming Ephedra/Ephedrine Ban

Looks like it won't be long before ephedra and ephedrine go the way of the Tyrannosaurus Rex. While US Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson has stated it wasn't clear just how dangerous, if at all, ephedra is, he feels, "it is crucial that we have a full understanding of these dietary supplements? by increasing our breadth of knowledge about these supplements, we can give consumers the information they need to make informed decisions about these products."

Thompson said the RAND corporation (a big think tank), would finish a "comprehensive review" of the studies on ephedra and this would be used as the basis for further study by the National Institutes of Health. You can make a safe bet that the RAND corporation "study" will be heavily slanted regarding the so-called dangers of ephedrine.

One "consumer protection group" called Public Citizen has battled for years to have ephedrine containing products taken off the market. A spokes-idiot for this group had the balls to say this about the delay that Thompson essentially instituted in banning ephedrine by requesting more studies, "?the announcement by HHS, which not only fails to ban ephedra dietary supplements but also fails to seriously warn against the use of these products, should result in the firing of all officials in HHS and the FDA who are responsible for this dangerous cowardice."

This guy, Dr. Sidney Wolfe, who heads Public Citizen's health research arm, also stated, "By now, there have been well over 100 deaths reported to the FDA in people using ephedra-containing products and, as described in our Sept. 5, 2001, petition to ban these products, there are more reports of death, stroke, arrhythmia, heart attacks, chest pain, seizures and hypertension for ephedra than for all other dietary supplements combined." I wonder when Dr. Wolfe is going to call for the banning of alcohol and aspirin, both of which cause thousands of more deaths per year than ephedrine containing products? Don't hold your breath.

Wolfe was quoted as saying, "If there had been this many problems with a prescription drug it would have been taken off the market." This is a crock of crap. Feel free to write Dr. Wolfe regarding your feelings about ephedra/ephedrine at: Dr. Sidney Wolfe, 1600 20th St. NW Washington, DC. 20009 or call them and be heard at (202) 588-1000.

And for all our Canuck T-Mag readers, the situation is just as bad where you are. A few months ago, Health Canada, (Canada's equivalent of the FDA), expressed worry about excessive doses of ephedra and asked makers to voluntarily recall products containing the supplement.

And if you think Big Brother is just trying to nab us ephedrine users in the fat loss market, think again. The US Health and Human Services also said it would "aggressively pursue" makers of non-herbal synthetic ephedrine products (e.g., the stuff you can get at gas stations everywhere as a "pick me up"). As part of these efforts, the FDA has sent six warning letters to firms unlawfully selling non-herbal ephedrine-containing products over the internet.

You can let Tommy Thompson know how you feel, too. Drop our Health and Human Services leaser an e-mail via [email protected] or by snail mail to: The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 200 Independence Avenue, S.W. Washington, D.C. 20201 or call them at (202) 619-0257.

Rest in peace, MD6.
 
man i love ephedra i take it before workouts and it gives a great jump----just bought those Thermo 525 drinks and i love them--they better not ban this stuff
 
thelegacy said:
man i love ephedra i take it before workouts and it gives a great jump----just bought those Thermo 525 drinks and i love them--they better not ban this stuff

if ephedra goes, ALL ephedra containing products will be recalled
 
i'm not worried. Eventually they'll make it a prescription drug and we'll just have to add it to our black market shopping list. It's a pain in the ass but I know ephedra will ALWAYS be around.
 
johnboy said:
Its the fucking idiots that abuse it! that is the reason its on its way out.

bro, that will always be the case. As long as God keeps pumping out idiots into the world, we're just gonna have to learn to live with them and their mistakes.
 
For those of you in the U.S. just do like I do. Every time you get gas, just buy 2-3 bottles of max-alerts. I had a feeling this was coming, so at the present time I think I have in the neighborhood of about 150 bottles, with 50-60 in each bottle. This should last me a while. :D
 
argent said:
By that rational, alcohol and tobacco should have been out years ago.

ahhhhhhhh, you are following the wrong rational bro, see the gov't evaluates a product from a purely economical stand point, gov't does not care for general public, they dont finance any compaigns, people with money do, like pharmacutical companies

Example, what do you think will be more profitable for sales, OTC drug or the same drug marketed as a pharmacutial with a need for a perscription? the perscription right? god knows the cost of perscription meds is astronomical, so the gov't takes it off the market and makes it a perscription med, GHB "date rape" drug is now marketed a perscription med for treating MILD SLEEPING DISORDERS............now if you buy it on the black market you are a rapist, if you get a perscription from you doc you are simply taking a MILD sleeping aid

Nor-ephedrine has been taken off the market with the same purpose in mind, along with thousands of other meds
 
never

The FDA has tried taking ephedra off the market several times, but has not succeeded. I doubt they will get it through this time also. They won't pull it.
:fro:
 
Re: never

TechRugby said:
The FDA has tried taking ephedra off the market several times, but has not succeeded. I doubt they will get it through this time also. They won't pull it.
:fro:

i really hope you are right on this one, because i use it all the time
 
serge said:


as for alcohol and tobacco, can you see them have any medical purposes???

Not since 1600 AD. I was just saying how much crap it is that the FDA gets all hot and bothered over something that is "inconclusive" and "needs more studies", but don't give A and T the same treatment, which have been proven numerous times to have ill effects physiologically in the body.
 
yeah

The reason they have tried is because there have been ephedra related deaths. But in the last few years...(to my understanding) there have only been btw 8-10 deaths. In relation to the number of people using it, and the programs people are on, It'll be tough for them to pull.
 
ephedrine is one of the few supplements that are always a part of my routine, 1 tab with a caffeine pill just prior to a workout makes a huge difference in my training. That's why I have a thousand tabs collecting dust at home right now, just in case it does get pulled
 
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I know it was a madman that said "I wish the whole world had one neck and my hands were on it", but thats exactly how I feel about alot of people in this country.

PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY is the phrase of the day. There are fucking warning lables on all ephedra products. READ THEM AND FOLLOW THEM. 100 deaths? What about the other millions of users?

Ban this because of some assholes. People are just giving the governemnt more and more rights to tak away while protecting the retards amoungst us.

I say let the people that can't read warning labels drop, NATURAL SELECTION. Good ol' mother nature wedding out the retards.

It says consult a doctor before taking this product. Maybe it should say.

Look dumb shit, ask your fucking doctor if you can use this shit. Don't use big words like consult. They don't know what that means.

I can't believe that with warning labels we have to go through this shit.
 
Latamier said:
For those of you in the U.S. just do like I do. Every time you get gas, just buy 2-3 bottles of max-alerts. I had a feeling this was coming, so at the present time I think I have in the neighborhood of about 150 bottles, with 50-60 in each bottle. This should last me a while. :D

Thats a damn good idea. I think Im going to buy a case of mini thins also.
 
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