Enforcing Sharia at UC-Irvine

[mountain muscle]

I'm not setting a new precedent by being a grammar Nazi on C&C.

Go ahead, I was a copy editor in college. We can have fun lol. I gave up on correcting internet grammar a long time ago. It's usually used by those who have nothing left to retort.

 

[nimbus]

If Muslim girls want gym time, then they can go rent a gym and do what they need.
I don't think any religion should get special treatment.

i bet you'd throw a fucking fit if you went to college and dining hall didn't have a vegan menu

 

[blueta2]

i bet you'd throw a fucking fit if you went to college and dining hall didn't have a vegan menu

First off, I've never thrown a fit in my life. Second, I'm not a vegan
and third I don't eat out and 4th, I'm a peaceful person.

 

[Stefka]

First off, I've never thrown a fit in my life. Second, I'm not a vegan
and third I don't eat out and 4th, I'm a peaceful person.

In most US universities you have to buy a meal plan if you want to live in the dorms. I was a vegan in college. I had to buy a meal plan my first year. There was noting I could eat in the cafeteria. I spent my meal points on lava lamps and life sized cardboard cut outs. I didnt bitch then, but maybe I should have. It was a huge waste of money.

 

[Smurfy]

Go ahead, I was a copy editor in college. We can have fun lol. I gave up on correcting internet grammar a long time ago. It's usually used by those who have nothing left to retort.

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you went to college?

 

[blueta2]

In most US universities you have to buy a meal plan if you want to live in the dorms. I was a vegan in college. I had to buy a meal plan my first year. There was noting I could eat in the cafeteria. I spent my meal points on lava lamps and life sized cardboard cut outs. I didnt bitch then, but maybe I should have. It was a huge waste of money.

being a vegan and the hands of others must be brutal. I was vegan for a short time, but then went back to chicken, fish and eggs.

 

[ceo]

 

[EnderJE]

For many people, going against their religion would be totally inconceivable.
Should Harvard really ask these women to forsake their religion?
Ok ladies, your choice - religion or health.

The money could have been spent benefiting the majority, not the handicapped minority.

Really? You're making this comparison? Religion vs health?

I wouldn't of seen those two items as being comparable. I would of put religion up with comic books. If you like them, then great for you. Just don't tell me about it.

 

[javaguru]

In most US universities you have to buy a meal plan if you want to live in the dorms. I was a vegan in college. I had to buy a meal plan my first year. There was noting I could eat in the cafeteria. I spent my meal points on lava lamps and life sized cardboard cut outs. I didnt bitch then, but maybe I should have. It was a huge waste of money.

Now I understand your attraction to hippies, hippie.

The salad bar at OSU had peanut butter and seeds.

My ex-wife graduated from Albion University in MI, that place turned her into a vegan. After graduation she landed a job operating the juicer at Whole Foods Market in Ann Arbor and then lived on a communion for a year.

 

[Cal_21]

I find this interesting...


Enforcing Sharia at UC-Irvine

In "UC Irvine Still Enforcing Sharia Law" by Jonathan Constantine Movroydis and Reut Cohen at Pajamas Media, May 22, we see how dhimmi university administrators allow Muslim students to enforce Sharia provisions (no filming of the "sisters") on the campus of a public university:

...The featured speaker last Thursday, May 15, was Amir Abdel Malik-Ali, a radical imam from Oakland who is all too familiar to UCI students. Malik-Ali frequently engages in anti-Western rhetoric and is a vocal supporter of terrorist groups. Not only has he praised Hamas, Hezbollah, and the mujahadeen in Afghanistan as “Islamic resistance” movements struggling against Western “oppressors,” he has called any scrutiny of these terror groups mere “propaganda.” Following Ali’s speeches to UCI’s MSU, the audiences of keffiyah-wearing Muslim students always repetitively recite the battle cry “Takbir! Allahu Akbar!” This year’s audience was no different.

While his rhetoric is lurid and apocalyptic, Malik-Ali’s speech is protected under the First Amendment. What’s alarming is the administration’s willingness to enforce the MSU’s prerogatives on other students who attend their events — hence the application of Sharia law where the Bill of Rights is applicable. For example, while videotaping Malik-Ali’s speech, we were confronted by a school administrator. Dean of Student Services Sally Peterson told us that, on behalf of the male students, we would have to stop filming the female activists, or as she called them “the sisters.” Aware of our rights, we refused her orders and continued covering the event.

As we continued our coverage of the festivities, members of the MSU ultimately decided to enforce what appears to be their own principle of just retribution. After Thursday’s event, the MSU walked up and down the main campus road chanting anti-Israel slogans and blocking off the entire walkway for several minutes while police and administrators stood by idly.

A male individual, who was filming the hateful procession, had at least three Muslim males charge at him for daring to film as the females from the group walked past. One of the males, a student named Yasser Ahmed who purportedly threw a cinderblock at an FBI vehicle last year, said to the cameraman: “You wanna get jacked! We can go get jacked right now! C’mon Emanuel, we’ve learned a lot about you let’s go! Lets go get jacked, Lets go get jacked!”

The UCI police department treated this incident unprofessionally and took no action. The student journalist gave his statement to a UCI police officer and explained how he was assaulted. The officer then went to take statements from the males MSU members. The police would not, however, take statements from those who witnessed the assault against the student journalist. After the police officer took statements, he told the student journalist that one of the males who charged at him had apologized and that nothing more could be done.

A Christian preacher on campus, Michael Venyah, also had his rights violated last Thursday. This preacher, who believes that all people must accept Jesus in order to get into heaven, began preaching about the prophet Mohammad and his crimes. Evidently, MSU members didn’t like hearing what he had to say and opted for charging and running into him. This was clearly an incident of assault. The cops present did nothing, and Dean of Judicial Affairs Edgar Dormitorio suggested that Mr. Venyah should leave.

Another case of MSU’s vigilantism occurred when a young Jewish female was followed back to her car and surrounded by six members of the MSU. A community member who witnessed the harassment also had her civil rights violated when the Muslim students noticed her. As UC Irvine police offers stood idly by, the Muslim students proceeded to situate themselves on the hood of her car in order to photograph her face, her vehicle identification number, and her license plate. When she later called the police department for answers, they justified the criminal behavior as the culmination of a tit for tat ethnic squabble. Put simply, they justified the need for Muslim students to “vent,” as they were just getting back at the Jews.

One group at UC Irvine has monopolized freedom of speech and expression. MSU organizers have taken it upon themselves to restrict the freedoms of others on the university campus and have managed to avoid significant criticism from the administration. Conversely, those who voice concern over MSU’s actions are depicted as stirring up trouble....

ray-cyst!!

 

[Stefka]

Really? You're making this comparison? Religion vs health?

I wouldn't of seen those two items as being comparable. I would of put religion up with comic books. If you like them, then great for you. Just don't tell me about it.

But for these women, religion is an important part of their lives. They would be having to make a choice between health (going to the gym) and their religious beliefs.

 

[jnevin]

Doesn't mean that we have to allow now because we have in the past. Check out Utah and the separation of church and state there lol.

Don't fucking get me started...

 

[blueta2]

But for these women, religion is an important part of their lives. They would be having to make a choice between health (going to the gym) and their religious beliefs.

they can always join Curves.
Woman only gym

 

[Stefka]

Now I understand your attraction to hippies, hippie.

The salad bar at OSU had peanut butter and seeds.

My ex-wife graduated from Albion University in MI, that place turned her into a vegan. After graduation she landed a job operating the juicer at Whole Foods Market in Ann Arbor and then lived on a communion for a year.

I'm a recovering hippie you assfuck.
I lived in two, yes two co-ops in Ann Arbor.
And I love the A2 Whole Foods. Many well educated baggers.

 

[mountain muscle]

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you went to college?

Yes I did. Did you?

I'll take that as an insult.

 

[Stefka]

they can always join Curves.
Woman only gym

Do you remember how poor you were in college?
They are paying for gym fees in their tuition.
They should get to use the gym (one of three gyms for two hours a day, to be exact).

 

[Raptorex]

I'm a recovering hippie you assfuck.
I lived in two, yes two co-ops in Ann Arbor.
And I love the A2 Whole Foods. Many well educated baggers.

Whole foods - Memorial Drive =Great

 

[75th]

And I'm pretty sure "precedent" is a noun in the way that you were using it.

Touche.

Thats what I get for using big words.

Post in an economic thread sometime so I can show you Im not all stupid.

 

[jnevin]

I want this to be my cvntvatar.

 

[Stefka]

Whole foods - Memorial Drive =Great

Been there twice already

 

[Stefka]

Touche.

Thats what I get for using big words.

Post in an economic thread sometime so I can show you Im not all stupid.

Economics makes me sleepy.

 

[Raptorex]

Been there twice all ready

I bike the Charles across the street pretty often, look for the crazy guy with people jumping out of the way

 

[jnevin]

It's unreal that this is even debatable.

 

[75th]

I want this to be my cvntvatar.

Too late.

Bitch.

 

[75th]

Economics makes me sleepy.

Big words do the same to me, apparently.

Either sleepy or stupid.

 

[javaguru]

I'm a recovering hippie you assfuck.
I lived in two, yes two co-ops in Ann Arbor.
And I love the A2 Whole Foods. Many well educated baggers.

Lol...her father is a college professor and ran a "think tank" for many years. Her mother is an attorney that also has a masters in English. She works with the ACLU and ABLE.

She followed The Grateful Dead for a year and sold smoothies for cash. She is currently a UPS executive and her parents were concerned about her emerging "materialism" last I heard from her.

 

[Stefka]

I bike the Charles across the street pretty often, look for the crazy guy with people jumping out of the way

Bostonian + at least two wheels = people jumping out of the way

 

[Raptorex]

Bostonian + at least two wheels = people jumping out of the way

you will love the Pops on the 4th that I am certain.

 

[Stefka]

I still giggle every time I hear one of you talk.
I've only heard one person say "wicked" though. Very disappointing.

 

[blueta2]

Do you remember how poor you were in college?
They are paying for gym fees in their tuition.
They should get to use the gym (one of three gyms for two hours a day, to be exact).

I live in Canada, one of the best colleges in North America is in my city and it cost less than $3000 a yrs to go to school here.
The government subsidizes our schooling.

Of course they should be allowed to use the gym, but not on their terms.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I live in Canada, one of the best colleges in North America is in my city and it cost less than $3000 a yrs to go to school here.
The government subsidizes our schooling.

Of course they should be allowed to use the gym, but not on their terms.

In Toronto, there are two major corporate gyms, both of which have special rooms for women...how is this different?

 

[Raptorex]

I still giggle every time I hear one of you talk.
I've only heard one person say "wicked" though. Very disappointing.

go across the bridge, your in cambridge - try southie.

 

[blueta2]

In Toronto, there are two major corporate gyms, both of which have special rooms for women...how is this different?

because they did it on their own and not asked to b/c of religion.
Which corps are these by the way?

 

[the_alcatraz]

because they did it on their own and not asked to b/c of religion.
Which corps are these by the way?

Goodlife & Premier - biggest in Canada

They both cater to women's privacy...religion or not, they get special treatement...how is that different?

 

[blueta2]

Goodlife & Premier - biggest in Canada

They both cater to women's privacy...religion or not, they get special treatement...how is that different?

because one is about religion and we in Canada do not follow this belief. We do however follow the rights to privacy for the sexes.

 

[Stefka]

go across the bridge, your in cambridge - try southie.

I was by MGH when I heard my first "wicked."
What does one do in southie (besides eavesdrop and giggle)?

 

[blueta2]

and this is not about Muslim, but about any religion. Though many muslims do think they have many more rights than other religions.
Don't deny it. My best friend is a muslim and she keeps me up to date with all the "goings on" in that religion

 

[Raptorex]

I was by MGH when I heard my first "wicked."
What does one do in southie (besides eavesdrop and giggle)?

It is our Irish section (although there are like 1000 irish pubs throughout the city). If you have ever seen Mystic River or Gone Baby Gone - that is the clientele there.

 

[the_alcatraz]

and this is not about Muslim, but about any religion. Though many muslims do think they have many more rights than other religions.
Don't deny it. My best friend is a muslim and she keeps me up to date with all the "goings on" in that religion

All minorities fight dor their rights. I'm not denying anything either. I'm just telling you facts. If a Sikh (Indian religious man) can get away with not wearing a helmet in construction sites and while on motorcycles and get special treatement from the police because of their religious beliefs, then muslims can get their rooms. Besides, I really doubt they would've given those girls rooms, were it not that the rooms were requested by several women for privacy issues. The US is not THAT open-minded.

 

[Stefka]

It is our Irish section (although there are like 1000 irish pubs throughout the city). If you have ever seen Mystic River or Gone Baby Gone - that is the clientele there.

So I would drink and eavesdrop and giggle. Sounds excellent.
Why is Central Station so cracked out?

 

[Mr. dB]

I remember when immigrants used to be proud to have "come to America" and were usually assimilated by the second generation. I don't think it is the job of the majority to conform to the whims of every special interest group.

 

[mountain muscle]

I remember when immigrants used to be proud to have "come to America" and were usually assimilated by the second generation. I don't think it is the job of the majority to conform to the whims of every special interest group.

Exactly.

 

[Raptorex]

I remember when immigrants used to be proud to have "come to America" and were usually assimilated by the second generation. I don't think it is the job of the majority to conform to the whims of every special interest group.

Not to correct you, however - immigrants use to come to America to be "Americans" - now they come to be in America.

 

[ceo]

I remember when immigrants used to be proud to have "come to America" and were usually assimilated by the second generation. I don't think it is the job of the majority to conform to the whims of every special interest group.

Remember when they really tried to learn the language and were proud when they could communicate fairly well in english??? My what a difference 20-30 years makes.

My family sponsored a family of 17 Vietnamese back in the early 70's. We gave them a place to live and every one that could, went out and worked doing something. They did their best to learn english and assimilate into American society. They kept their own traditions of course, but they were glad to be in America.

It was tough for them for a while, but they saved as much as they could and bought a house when they could. They tried many times to give my parents money, but they wouldn't take any. So, every time my birthday rolled around, I got cash from the father. He would give it to me all secret like, away from my parents and tell me to save it.

That family has done pretty well for themselves. Several of the kids went on to college. I think one or two of them own their own businesses. I don't ever remember any of them crying about wanting any special rights. They were fleeing a country where they had very little individual rights, and no rights if the gov't saw fit to take them away. They were happy as hell to be somewhere where they had a fair chance like everyone else.

What the fuck has happened to that America?

 

[ceo]

Not to correct you, however - immigrants use to come to America to be "Americans" - now they come to be in America.

oh yes, I should add that they were very anxious to become Americans too.

 

[javaguru]

I remember when immigrants used to be proud to have "come to America" and were usually assimilated by the second generation. I don't think it is the job of the majority to conform to the whims of every special interest group.

Religion is a very different animal than culture. It doesn't lend itself to assimilation.

 

[ceo]

Religion is a very different animal than culture. It doesn't lend itself to assimilation.

The Buddhists seem to do quite well with it though, no?

 

[javaguru]

The Buddhists seem to do quite well with it though, no?

Some Buddhists would argue it's not a religion but a philosophy of life. Also, the Lama is pretty hardcore about getting back his power in Tibet, as are the monks living in Tibet.

Buddhist monks in Vietnam self immolated as religious protest against the Catholic government.

 

[mountain muscle]

Buddhism is not a religion.

 

[ceo]

they seem to do pretty well in America though.

 

[GoldenDelicious]

All minorities fight dor their rights. I'm not denying anything either. I'm just telling you facts. If a Sikh (Indian religious man) can get away with not wearing a helmet in construction sites and while on motorcycles and get special treatement from the police because of their religious beliefs, then muslims can get their rooms. Besides, I really doubt they would've given those girls rooms, were it not that the rooms were requested by several women for privacy issues. The US is not THAT open-minded.

thats just catering to the lowest common denominator. if you want to work on a construction site, you wear a helmet. if you dont want to wear a helmet, then you dont work on a construction site. if that means you cant work, then its the same as abstaining from sex or eating shrimp or whatever goofy shit your religion demands that you do, and God will reward you for it.

as for these muslim chicks going to the gym, well, if God thinks that headdress or whatever bullshit is appropriate dress for the daytime, then im sure that He took into account that youd occasionally do hard physical labour and should therefore fully expect that you dont diss Him by wanting to take it off while you got on the treadmill.

i think its fair enough to cater to minorities such as disabled people because that is not a choice. your religion is.

ps people are shit

 

[75th]

thats just catering to the lowest common denominator. if you want to work on a construction site, you wear a helmet. if you dont want to wear a helmet, then you dont work on a construction site. if that means you cant work, then its the same as abstaining from sex or eating shrimp or whatever goofy shit your religion demands that you do, and God will reward you for it.

as for these muslim chicks going to the gym, well, if God thinks that headdress or whatever bullshit is appropriate dress for the daytime, then im sure that He took into account that youd occasionally do hard physical labour and should therefore fully expect that you dont diss Him by wanting to take it off while you got on the treadmill.

i think its fair enough to cater to minorities such as disabled people because that is not a choice. your religion is.

+1,000,000 aka common sense.

 

[the_alcatraz]

thats just catering to the lowest common denominator. if you want to work on a construction site, you wear a helmet. if you dont want to wear a helmet, then you dont work on a construction site. if that means you cant work, then its the same as abstaining from sex or eating shrimp or whatever goofy shit your religion demands that you do, and God will reward you for it.

as for these muslim chicks going to the gym, well, if God thinks that headdress or whatever bullshit is appropriate dress for the daytime, then im sure that He took into account that youd occasionally do hard physical labour and should therefore fully expect that you dont diss Him by wanting to take it off while you got on the treadmill.

i think its fair enough to cater to minorities such as disabled people because that is not a choice. your religion is.

ps people are shit

I agree with most of what you said bro...

 

[EnderJE]

All minorities fight dor their rights. I'm not denying anything either. I'm just telling you facts. If a Sikh (Indian religious man) can get away with not wearing a helmet in construction sites and while on motorcycles and get special treatement from the police because of their religious beliefs, then muslims can get their rooms. Besides, I really doubt they would've given those girls rooms, were it not that the rooms were requested by several women for privacy issues. The US is not THAT open-minded.

I'm also in Canada so I remember when those three things made the news. It was fucked up back then and it's fucked up now. I remember when that Sikh man was allowed to not wear the motorcycle. I kinda hoped he'd get into a little accident so that he could have his faith and God tested.

Also, I remember when the Mountie bended to pressure and had the Sikh join. That's fucked up. I felt very sorry that my country bended to that pressure and didn't keep up with their tradition.

However, it did give me hope that my nephew can still be a mountie wearing the batman mask.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I'm also in Canada so I remember when those three things made the news. It was fucked up back then and it's fucked up now. I remember when that Sikh man was allowed to not wear the motorcycle. I kinda hoped he'd get into a little accident so that he could have his faith and God tested.

Also, I remember when the Mountie bended to pressure and had the Sikh join. That's fucked up. I felt very sorry that my country bended to that pressure and didn't keep up with their tradition.

However, it did give me hope that my nephew can still be a mountie wearing the batman mask.

I Sikh was allowed to do that...

Another incident happened in Canada:

A little girl wearing a hijab was made fun off by the soccer coach and told to take off the hijab. The girl refused saying that she is obligated by her faith, so he kicked her off the team. how does the hijab effect her gameplay or her health or the result of the game? that's preferential treatement to the Sikhs and not muslims....

 

[EnderJE]

I Sikh was allowed to do that...

Another incident happened in Canada:

A little girl wearing a hijab was made fun off by the soccer coach and told to take off the hijab. The girl refused saying that she is obligated by her faith, so he kicked her off the team. how does the hijab effect her gameplay or her health or the result of the game? that's preferential treatement to the Sikhs and not muslims....

Simple. The hijab could limit quick turning vision and the ability to run. Try wearing a scarf and running all out vs no scarf. You tend to breathe easier when there is no scarf.

As well, there is the matter of a soccer uniform. At one soccer game, one of my kid's friend was kicked off the team because he wouldn't take off his bracelet. The rationale was that the bracelet could scratch other players.

In either case, I didn't really care because the soccer club was a private one and I could choose to pull my kids out of the league if I didn't like it.

If the muslims want to have a league, then they could either scan all leagues to find one that allows for the hajib (ahead of joining) or make their own to allow it. Don't join one, then complain when you don't like the environment.

 

[Creepusmaximus]

Clearly he is an idiot, as are his student followers.

What is most disturbing to me is the inaction of the police and school.

US is a free country, if you want to run around and act like an idiot then you can. Break the law and that's something different.

You guys might not be old enough to remember when cults were big but that's basicly the same thing.

Jim Jones forever. LOL. Great public speaker, his follow through was a little questionable.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Simple. The hijab could limit quick turning vision and the ability to run. Try wearing a scarf and running all out vs no scarf. You tend to breathe easier when there is no scarf.

As well, there is the matter of a soccer uniform. At one soccer game, one of my kid's friend was kicked off the team because he wouldn't take off his bracelet. The rationale was that the bracelet could scratch other players.

In either case, I didn't really care because the soccer club was a private one and I could choose to pull my kids out of the league if I didn't like it.

If the muslims want to have a league, then they could either scan all leagues to find one that allows for the hajib (ahead of joining) or make their own to allow it. Don't join one, then complain when you don't like the environment.

it's the little girl's freedom to wear the hijab if she wanted to. It's utter bs. It doesnt effect her playing. give me a break. Do you really believe that?

Anyways, if the girls want to workout, they could go to another gym that has a private room for women. They don't NEED to change the whole university rules for that.

 

[EnderJE]

it's the little girl's freedom to wear the hijab if she wanted to. It's utter bs. It doesnt effect her playing. give me a break. Do you really believe that?

Anyways, if the girls want to workout, they could go to another gym that has a private room for women. They don't NEED to change the whole university rules for that.

I believe that she must abide of the rules of a private club, not the other way around.

If it was my private soccer club, then it's my rules. Don't like it? Find another club or start your own. That's the benefit of the free market. The demand dictates what's permissable and what isn't.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I believe that she must abide of the rules of a private club, not the other way around.

If it was my private soccer club, then it's my rules. Don't like it? Find another club or start your own. That's the benefit of the free market. The demand dictates what's permissable and what isn't.

But nothing in the rules stated that she can't wear a hijab. Making up a rule on the spot is un-called for.

 

[EnderJE]

But nothing in the rules stated that she can't wear a hijab. Making up a rule on the spot is un-called for.

Then that's a different story because she (or her parents) would of paid by that point.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Then that's a different story because she (or her parents) would of paid by that point.

what do you mean?

 

[jackangel]

stefka, equating the right to use a gym with one's health is misleading at best. the fact that you can improve your health by working out in a gym is irrelevant. no one need set foot inside a gym in order to promote her own well-being.

i am curious as to the nature and extent of other religious accommodations made in the past, whether it be for christians, jews, hindus.

 

[EnderJE]

what do you mean?

When I enroll my kids into soccer, I pay some money up front for the club. This money goes into paying the coaches, renting the equipment, etc. I sign a contract to abide by the rules, I pay the money, and they play.

By your original note, I assume that the coach kicked the player off the team during or just before a game. This means that the parents would of read the contract and paid the money. If the contract stated "no hajibs", then I would side with the soccer club because their rules are clear. If there was no rule, then I would side with the parents because they would of paid the enrollment fee. If I was the parents, I would hold up the contract and ask the coach to let me know where the rule 'no hijib' is stated. If they were unable to point out the rule, then I would escalate (if nothing else to get my money back from the enrollment fee).

Then I would suicide bomb his house. I keed!

 

[the_alcatraz]

stefka, equating the right to use a gym with one's health is misleading at best. the fact that you can improve your health by working out in a gym is irrelevant. no one need set foot inside a gym in order to promote her own well-being.

i am curious as to the nature and extent of other religious accommodations made in the past, whether it be for christians, jews, hindus.

ultimately, I agree with you on the gym part. Nothing in her religious states that she needs to workout, so building a private gym for them has no bearing or religious correctness, and he religious claim fails. Now if it was a place to pray, like many companies in Canada are doing, that's a different story.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Clearly he is an idiot, as are his student followers.

What is most disturbing to me is the inaction of the police and school.

This si fucking california for ya. Everyone and everything has rights but Americans.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Now let's not got carried away bitchesz...just cause i agree with some of your assessments, don't mean I agree with bashing muslims.

Dont come over and try to get shit closed down because of your beliefs. not you persay but your peeps.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

dude please.........get over it.

Get over what? a man who was born and raised in muslim(anti-american religon) and a man who goes to an anti american church wh my just become the next president. Fck that I aint gettin over shit!!!!!

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

and I have a serious problem if they let these little assholes harass a woman like that cause she was jewish. Look, if some christian puke starts talking about the main prophet of another religion derogatively, he get's the lil ass whoopin that he got........c'mon, consequences are consequences. Otherwise, I guess y'all won't mind while I take this american flag, wipe my fresh from deuce steaming ass with it...........and then light it on fire. Mountain, you would take aim at me with your AR if I did that infront of your house.

But there still ought to be lines they let NO ONE cross.

And what do these people preach on campus? anti american shit and nothing was done. these bastards need the ass whoopin. So why is it different for a christian to preach anti muslim.

Agrees respect is respect but it has to go both ways FUCKERS!!!!! We cant be expected to respect these asswipe douche bags when the respect is not reciprocated and never will be!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

and I have a serious problem if they let these little assholes harass a woman like that cause she was jewish. Look, if some christian puke starts talking about the main prophet of another religion derogatively, he get's the lil ass whoopin that he got........c'mon, consequences are consequences. Otherwise, I guess y'all won't mind while I take this american flag, wipe my fresh from deuce steaming ass with it...........and then light it on fire. Mountain, you would take aim at me with your AR if I did that infront of your house.

But there still ought to be lines they let NO ONE cross.

They cry "FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!!!" When someone else exrecies the same fucking right they cry "PERSACUTION!!!!!!"

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

dude, you're from Boston....not west virginia........get it together.

SO PEOPLE IN WV ARE STUPID?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

You do know I hate Iran and everything it stands for dnt you?

Hence my hate for Hizbollah

I think you and res missed the point of his post.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

yeah, cause americans are not guilty at all of painting all muslims as disciples of bin laden......

not flaming you bro, but I completely understand traz's defensiveness especially because a few guy here have already tried to do just that to him.

When we paint him as that it is as a joke. No one really thinks he is bin ladens child he never knew.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

I know.

But this thread is not about him anyway. If we go down that road, they will just delete the thread.

yea but will the delete a thread where a christians are accused of the same. Its like the PC mindset only works one way around here.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

And the majority isn't really being inconvenienced. Dudes can go to the other two gyms during those two hours.

Where on campus are they? What if this is the closest gym to my dorm and I only have 30 minutes to work out during this time it is closed? I am paying just as much as they are to use the same gym. I am inconvenienced now.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

cultural good will. Again, there's a line.........and that wasn't crossing it.

Why do we have to watch the line and show cultural goodwill when the other side doesnt as shown in MM post about the arrest of christian converts.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

If McCain isn't voted in when Obama gets the nod, I will be convinced that the USA is a nation if idiots.

And canada is a nation of bright people?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

But for these women, religion is an important part of their lives. They would be having to make a choice between health (going to the gym) and their religious beliefs.

WTF are they wearing that would make men stare at them? arent they supposed to be covered at all times.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Do you remember how poor you were in college?
They are paying for gym fees in their tuition.
They should get to use the gym (one of three gyms for two hours a day, to be exact).

Why not leave the gyms the way they are and harvard workout a deal with a local curves for these women with issues wrokout there. Many colleges do this. harvard brings in enough money to pull this off.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

In Toronto, there are two major corporate gyms, both of which have special rooms for women...how is this different?

Because it does not disrupt the other members. They can go during all business hours and not blacked out for 2-3 hours.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

All minorities fight dor their rights. I'm not denying anything either. I'm just telling you facts. If a Sikh (Indian religious man) can get away with not wearing a helmet in construction sites and while on motorcycles and get special treatement from the police because of their religious beliefs, then muslims can get their rooms. Besides, I really doubt they would've given those girls rooms, were it not that the rooms were requested by several women for privacy issues. The US is not THAT open-minded.

But lib universities are.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Remember when they really tried to learn the language and were proud when they could communicate fairly well in english??? My what a difference 20-30 years makes.

My family sponsored a family of 17 Vietnamese back in the early 70's. We gave them a place to live and every one that could, went out and worked doing something. They did their best to learn english and assimilate into American society. They kept their own traditions of course, but they were glad to be in America.

It was tough for them for a while, but they saved as much as they could and bought a house when they could. They tried many times to give my parents money, but they wouldn't take any. So, every time my birthday rolled around, I got cash from the father. He would give it to me all secret like, away from my parents and tell me to save it.

That family has done pretty well for themselves. Several of the kids went on to college. I think one or two of them own their own businesses. I don't ever remember any of them crying about wanting any special rights. They were fleeing a country where they had very little individual rights, and no rights if the gov't saw fit to take them away. They were happy as hell to be somewhere where they had a fair chance like everyone else.

What the fuck has happened to that America?

The left happenned

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

Simple. The hijab could limit quick turning vision and the ability to run. Try wearing a scarf and running all out vs no scarf. You tend to breathe easier when there is no scarf.

As well, there is the matter of a soccer uniform. At one soccer game, one of my kid's friend was kicked off the team because he wouldn't take off his bracelet. The rationale was that the bracelet could scratch other players.

In either case, I didn't really care because the soccer club was a private one and I could choose to pull my kids out of the league if I didn't like it.

If the muslims want to have a league, then they could either scan all leagues to find one that allows for the hajib (ahead of joining) or make their own to allow it. Don't join one, then complain when you don't like the environment.

Ex fucking actly

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

it's the little girl's freedom to wear the hijab if she wanted to. It's utter bs. It doesnt effect her playing. give me a break. Do you really believe that?

Anyways, if the girls want to workout, they could go to another gym that has a private room for women. They don't NEED to change the whole university rules for that.

And it is the private leagues right to enforce their rules that they made before she joined the league right?

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

But nothing in the rules stated that she can't wear a hijab. Making up a rule on the spot is un-called for.

Uniforms? Does this word not mean the same? That all people on th team had to war the same uniform? What rule was made up on the spot. It was not part of the uniform. She either take it off or leave.

 

[Pat_McCrotch]

LMAO!!!! I guess I am the only one postin in this thread right now. BWAHAHAHAHA

 

[Smurfy]

LMAO!!!! I guess I am the only one postin in this thread right now. BWAHAHAHAHA

JEsus christ you do it everytime!!!!!

 

[EnderJE]

Let's see if you can keep this going for the next 100 pages.

 

[the_alcatraz]

And it is the private leagues right to enforce their rules that they made before she joined the league right?

Absolutely. But that rule never existed before.

 

[Raptorex]

fatty's have rights too

 

[mountain muscle]

fatty's have rights too

We support you bro!

 

[the_alcatraz]

We support you bro!

+1

 

[Mr. dB]

When I enroll my kids into soccer, I pay some money up front for the club. This money goes into paying the coaches, renting the equipment, etc. I sign a contract to abide by the rules, I pay the money, and they play.

By your original note, I assume that the coach kicked the player off the team during or just before a game. This means that the parents would of read the contract and paid the money. If the contract stated "no hajibs", then I would side with the soccer club because their rules are clear. If there was no rule, then I would side with the parents because they would of paid the enrollment fee. If I was the parents, I would hold up the contract and ask the coach to let me know where the rule 'no hijib' is stated. If they were unable to point out the rule, then I would escalate (if nothing else to get my money back from the enrollment fee).

Then I would suicide bomb his house. I keed!

If the rules state what a uniform IS, they don't necessarily have to also state everything that is NOT allowed.

 

[redsamurai]

SO PEOPLE IN WV ARE STUPID?

I'm sure there are outliers..........but on average..................oh yeah.

 

[redsamurai]

Why do we have to watch the line and show cultural goodwill when the other side doesnt as shown in MM post about the arrest of christian converts.

because we're civilized people..........or so I thought. Do you really want to be just like the common garden vermin?

 

[mountain muscle]

because we're civilized people..........or so I thought. Do you really want to be just like the common garden vermin?

That is laughable.

And misguided.

 

[the_alcatraz]

That is laughable.

And misguided.

 

[-SD-]

That is laughable.

And misguided.

and naive.

 

[Raptorex]

I'm going to laff when Barak Hussein Obama loses in November.

 

[the_alcatraz]

I'm going to laff when Barak Hussein Obama loses in November.