no offense to this PLJ, but HOMES, I dont think you were FAR worse shape than PLJ. HE lost a pretty substantial amount of bf and has a pretty good look to his physique now. People say I looked good in the beginning, I was in decent shape but I think I was carrying probably close to the LEAST amount of muscle on my frame than anyone in this thing, and Ive put on quite a bit if I do say so myself, probably the MOST amount of lean mass out of anyone. My tan for the final will make a huge difference too. But good luck to whoever wins. we all kicked A**, work hard during pct and keep these gains guys. thats what REALLY matters