ECA stack ratios/ my side effects - feedback???

[LisaECA]

Thanks for reading. I'm looking forward to some feedback!
I lost 2 stone by cutting down on food, then plateaued for months, so bought an ECA stack (ratio 60mg/250mg/150mg respectively).

As it is illegal in the UK, I had limited advice and my first day's usage went as follows:
7 am - took one
12 am - took one
6 pm - took one (Felt brilliant, was on fire at work)
4 am - took one
I understand now to avoid evenings and taking 4 within 24 hours on my first day wasn't clever, but now I'm learning that my pills are too much? That the average amount of E is 25mg? I read that it is dangerous to have more than 70mg in a day - I took 240???

My side effects - the day of taking pill at 4am I blacked out, went limp, ate some porridge with honey, felt weak and unfocused at work, after lunch I had painful tummy cramps. This was yesterday, I slept for 12 hours last night and woke up with a throbbing head. I've been awake for 3 hours and my head is not 100% better yet. I really want to get to the gym and take another pill, but I'm scared that I'll end up feeling worse???

Thanks for reading my 'mini essay' > would appreciate feedback, thanks x

 

[shawn_h001]

Man, something is wrong with either the label dosage, or the way you are reading it. 60 mg's of ephedrine in one dose is fucking nuts. Seriously that is overdosing on ephedrine, taking that would make you feel like you were about to have a heart attack in my opinion. The average dose is something like 25/200/150, sometimes without the aspirin. The way it looks, you took 4 pills in one day. You are still alive enough to write this so either you are WAY overdosing on ephedrine (and caffeine and aspirin for that matter), or those pills are underdosed.

 

[rikishi]

Ephedrine is dangerous if you take too much. You have to keep it to 25 mg MAX per dose. You're lucky you are still here to talk to us.

 

[UncleBee]

I've seen some in my experience that have used Ephedrine Hcl in extreme dosages in upwards of 1800mg a day. Yes, you are reading that correctly, 1800mgs a day. Some habitual users substitute it for either cocaine or crystal meth when all that is available to them is OTC medication. And they have lived. And I've seen others die on as little as 50mgs at a time. I depends on your cardiovascular health and any other underlying issues that go left unnoticed. My suggestion is find a way to check and make sure that you KNOW what it is that you are putting into your body and at what mgs before you take anymore. It is not uncommon to have some other stimulants in your pills other than what you thought you were getting or for that matter other than what you wanted to put in your body. Stay informed and you'll most likely stay alive and well.

 

[LisaECA]

Thank you for all your replies and concern! I'm grateful for the fast response as I'm now going to be sensible (as I should have been) and put them aside until I know more. I'm not prepared to throw them away until I know more as I bought them as a last option wanting to tone up for my 21st and from internet reviews it sounds like they are very effective.

Shawn, Thanks. Your comment about the dosage, makes me wonder, because the packaging says E60mg/C250mg/A150mg but doesn't show a total package weight or say whether this is per pill. I assume it is per pill as there are 30. They were termed, on purchase, T5 ECA Fat Burners and I bought them through a website, which directed me to UK Health Products. I've replied to my order confirmation asking about the dosage, but I'm not sure I will get a reply.

Following other comments kindly posted in response, I know it seems absurd for a 20 year old to take something potentially dangerous just to get trim, but I have come to this point as a last resort. It seems like there is no end to the tunnel without something as 'apparently' effective as ECA. I'm tall and my frame is slim, but I just look like I have a beer gut. If you didn't know me, you might wonder if I were pregnant and since, without sounding vain, I'm not unattractive, it just wont do! Again, thank you!

 

[OneBreath]

Can you post the ingredients from the label? You could have ephedra instead of ephedrine. I would be suspicious of any ECA "supplements". Ideally you would purchase each component individually so you know exactly what you're getting. Caffeine and aspirin can be found dirt cheap. I'm not sure about UK laws but in the states ephedrine can be obtained OTC.

Also, as stated before, the standard 1 dose of ECA is 25mg ephedrine, 200mg caffeine, and asprin between 100 and 325mg (the asprin is a point of debate, the first 2 components are the most important).

The daily schedule would be more like:

7 AM (or when you wake up) - 1 dose
10 AM - 1 dose
1 PM - 1 dose

And that's it for the day.

It sounds like you will probably try this again at some point. Just be careful and post here if you have any questions whatsoever. We are here to help. Also, feel free to post your diet, there are some very knowledgeable women here that could help you shed fat just with a few diet adjustments.

Best of luck!