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EC or clen??
- Thread starter tps
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Anything can be safe when used smartly. Anything can be dangerous when NOT used smartly.
As for "better" ... it all depends on what you are looking for it to do, and what YOU are willing to do to help it work. Nothing works by itself.
What are the goals here? Fat loss? Energy? Metabolism booster? Appetite suppressant?
As for "better" ... it all depends on what you are looking for it to do, and what YOU are willing to do to help it work. Nothing works by itself.
What are the goals here? Fat loss? Energy? Metabolism booster? Appetite suppressant?
Sassy69
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Personally I'd go w/ the ECA - its OTC and gives a kick but doesn't push you to the point of feeling like a 12 hr panic attack + tension headaches. Also clen makes me feel like I'm hungry when I'm really not.
For contest prep I'd look to the diet & tools like carb cycling & dialing in to get the fat loss. The ECA will give you an energy kick as you start cutting. I also like Cardio Breeze for non body-buzz kick that doesn't make you feel like you crash when it wears off.
For contest prep I'd look to the diet & tools like carb cycling & dialing in to get the fat loss. The ECA will give you an energy kick as you start cutting. I also like Cardio Breeze for non body-buzz kick that doesn't make you feel like you crash when it wears off.
tps
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ive read about t rex cardio breeze on this board...ive tried just about every non ephedra FB on the market and found them to do nothing ...so these work? jitters are a huge concern for me...im a hairdresser....scissors razor...jittery hands not an option!!! 
i have also read lately that the asprin in the ECA stack can actually be catabolic..so its better to leave it out and just do EC. have you heard this?
i have also read lately that the asprin in the ECA stack can actually be catabolic..so its better to leave it out and just do EC. have you heard this?
Sassy69
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I've tried just about everything out there - I was very sad to see Adipokinetix taken off the market a few yrs ago, but of what is available today, T-rex is a great thermo, Cardio Breeze I guess technically is a thermo, but there's no buzz or jitter effect at all. It just sort of wakes you up. If you want to sweat like crazy, and I didnt' really notice jitters but you definitely feel the kick wash over you -- VPX Redline.
As far as aspirin catabolic effect - hadn't heard of it - I used to build my own ECA stack but I think I pushed it too hard and really toasted my adrenals on it and have just made a point of staying away from it. I sort of look at it that if I have to worry about catabolism from aspirin, when you are going to experience an amount of catabolism from the whole cutting process for competitoin, you don't have enough muscle to start with. I guess if I am worried about things on what seems to be a negligible level, then I just really don't have enough to start w/ and maybe should consider a more serious bulking phase first.
As far as aspirin catabolic effect - hadn't heard of it - I used to build my own ECA stack but I think I pushed it too hard and really toasted my adrenals on it and have just made a point of staying away from it. I sort of look at it that if I have to worry about catabolism from aspirin, when you are going to experience an amount of catabolism from the whole cutting process for competitoin, you don't have enough muscle to start with. I guess if I am worried about things on what seems to be a negligible level, then I just really don't have enough to start w/ and maybe should consider a more serious bulking phase first.
Thermorexin is HANDS DOWN the best metabolism booster / appetite suppressant I have ever tried. I have never tried CB, since it came out a few months ago (while I am PG). But it is on my list of MUST TRY soon.
If shakes are not an option - Clen is ruled out immediately. No questions asked.
If shakes are not an option - Clen is ruled out immediately. No questions asked.
S
scorpiogirl
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Clen is a waste of money and if you don't want the jitters, definitely DON'T do clen!
I currently use the EC stack without the A. I LOVE it. You will still get some jitters from it too though. I've used Cardio Breeze too, but I'm use to the jolt from the EC Stack and the CB just doesn't do it for me. I do use it when I need a break from the EC. I use the EC 2x a day. When I feel a crash coming on, I pop more. Good appetite supressant too.
I currently use the EC stack without the A. I LOVE it. You will still get some jitters from it too though. I've used Cardio Breeze too, but I'm use to the jolt from the EC Stack and the CB just doesn't do it for me. I do use it when I need a break from the EC. I use the EC 2x a day. When I feel a crash coming on, I pop more. Good appetite supressant too.
thanks SG.....i havent used ECA in along time b/c it was banned fron natty shows. do you devise your own ..(which is cheaper!) or do you use an already made brand?Similar threads
