Drums of War bangin' for Iran?

[javaguru]

You can't name a military of a country "terrorists" by definition. He is only using those buzzwords to terrify the stupid americans who are the same people who were dumb enough to be confused in thinking that Iraq was responsible for 9/11.

He will set out to start a war in Iran, but hopefully we Americans won't fall for anymore of his shit.

What soldiers are we going to use? They are spread out all over the place already? What financial resources are we going to use? To what gain? Plenty of countries hate us. Are we going to "pre-emptively strike" them all? I love the way we call it that, by the way. Everyone else in the world says we "attacked without provocation."

Well, under the legislation, once they become a terrorist organization they can freeze/seize assets and prevent US businesses from conducting business with them; I think that's the motive.

Anywho, Hideki Tojo(Japanese Minister of War) was tried, convicted and sentenced to hanging for the war crime of "Conspiracy to Wage War." The winners can do whatever they want.....

 

[Longhorn85]

"supportive" of terrorism..........in words mainly. How many actually fund them and train them? Not sadaam........never

no he wasn't. he didn't give a shit.

"The captured materials shed light on the Iraqi aid to the Palestinian confrontation in the PA, with emphasis on the encouragement of terrorist attacks. This aid...is an expression of Iraqi policy - the interest to escalate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict...to divert international attention from Iraq and to delay the US attack plans against Iraq."


http://www.israel-mfa.gov.il/MFA/MF... Support for and Encouragement of Palestinian

 

[WODIN]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

Bullshit. LMAO.

Al Queda wasn't in Iraq until we invaded. The strech your making would put the Tami Tigers of Indonesia in Osama Bin laden's group.

You know your conflating this issue because the average zombie shit head here doesn't understand the difference between OBL's group and Abu Hamza Albjuri's group. Before they were known as AQI they called themesleves Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad ("Group of Monotheism and the Holy Struggle").

That name doesn't sell your bullshit spin though.

 

[Mavafanculo]

There are exactly two fronts in the same war. We are fighting
Al Queida in both places.

For the gazillionth time no one is claiming that Iraq was involved in 9/11, and that was not a pretense for going to war against Saddam Hussein. That does not mean he was not supportive of terrorism--he was.

1) our combined intel services have said again and again that "al queda" (a splinter group) in iraq is a tiny part of the total "insurgency" movement in iraq

2) conflating 9/11 and sadaam hussain/iraq was a MAJOR part (along with the WMD lie) of the disinformation/propaganda campaign to get us into iraq. you still dont admit that?

 

[Longhorn85]

1) our combined intel services have said again and again that "al queda" (a splinter group) in iraq is a tiny part of the total "insurgency" movement in iraq

Glad to hear you have so much faith in our intel services. You're wrong about Al Queida though. Tell the Kurds that they are just a splinter group.

<snip>
August 15, 2007 · The death toll from four suicide bombings in northwest Iraq climbed to at least 250 on Wednesday, prompting a U.S. general to label the coordinated attacks on a small Kurdish sect "ethnic cleansing."

A week ago, the Islamic State in Iraq, an al-Qaida front group, distributed leaflets warning residents near where the bombings took place that an attack was imminent because Yazidis are "anti-Islamic."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12800852

 

[Mavafanculo]

Glad to hear you have so much faith in our intel services. You're wrong about Al Queida though. Tell the Kurds that they are just a splinter group.

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you have a better idea of who to believe? oh I know whatever bush/cheney say.

p.s. the CIA et al work alot better when they're not being pushed around by Cheney, and the raw pre-war Intel reports were alot closer to reality than the cherry-picked propaganda summary's that Congress got

 

[AAP]

The bottom line is, if Bush and cronies were doing so hot over there and everything was exactly as they try to make everyone believe, then why isn't the war over and we won?

Oh we are still trying to turn the corner huh?

 

[Mavafanculo]

The bottom line is, if Bush and cronies were doing so hot over there and everything was exactly as they try to make everyone believe, then why isn't the war over and we won?

Oh we are still trying to turn the corner huh?

now it seems like "the report by Gen Patreas" that the imbicile keeps talking about will actually be written by the WH with input from "various officials" bwahahahaha.

so either the WH changed plans when patreas told them things were a clusterfuck, or that was the plan all along and they just werent going to tell anyone - cept it got leaked.

 

[redsamurai]

now it seems like "the report by Gen Patreas" that the imbicile keeps talking about will actually be written by the WH with input from "various officials" bwahahahaha.

so either the WH changed plans when patreas told them things were a clusterfuck, or that was the plan all along and they just werent going to tell anyone - cept it got leaked.

I never thought for "ONE SECOND" that the WH would allow a soldier's report, no matter how truthful, to dictate their foreign policy. Whatever Petraus say's, even if he say's that things aren't going well, it's at the behest of the commander in chief.........end of story. I smell a scenario in which they ambiguously blame the military, ie petraus, for not successfully directing the surge. Some kind of fall guy setup seems to be looming...........which will allow them to exit without admitting any missteps whatsoever. Mark what I say....................THE most digusting individuals that reside on this planet, reside in DC. I wouldn't find a french schoolyard on behalf of these malfeasants! The most dishonorable, unethical men.....and I use the word man merely to point out that they're "males".............because NONE of them are "men".

 

[CrazyRussian]

I never thought for "ONE SECOND" that the WH would allow a soldier's report, no matter how truthful, to dictate their foreign policy. Whatever Petraus say's, even if he say's that things aren't going well, it's at the behest of the commander in chief.........end of story. I smell a scenario in which they ambiguously blame the military, ie petraus, for not successfully directing the surge. Some kind of fall guy setup seems to be looming...........which will allow them to exit without admitting any missteps whatsoever. Mark what I say....................THE most digusting individuals that reside on this planet, reside in DC. I wouldn't find a french schoolyard on behalf of these malfeasants! The most dishonorable, unethical men.....and I use the word man merely to point out that they're "males".............because NONE of them are "men".

If you don't think that corruption happens in every single government in the world, youre naive. The people who reside in DC are very powerful men who participate in some underhanded activities to further their interests...compare this to how some governments murder thousands, tens of thousands of their own citizens. how does it comapre?