Drug Test

[otlcheater]

How bad of sides would I experience from Test Suspension at no more than 50 mg ED, and probably more like 40 mg ED? I'm trying to get to and stay 4:1 ratio. No warning for the drug test, which means I cannot take an anti-estrogen. So what are my chances of Gyno from that low of a dose, and how long could I run that cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

it would hurt like hell .. never tried suspension but you better make sure you get EO specific kind.

 

[Cipp21]

You have to worry about what kind of test their using as well. Depends if it detects metabolites/traces to identify the compound vs. blood testing for elevated test/estro/lipids/etc. The latter being the least possibility. I guess it depends on your situation.

Nobody can determine your chances for gyno, you only have clues such as pubertal symptoms and problems in the past. The amount of test you take is negligible, you have to remember some people get gyno even without steroids. If you haven't had problems in the past and feel comfortable that you won't in the future go ahead, there's many alternative ways to reverse gyno now besides surgery if it does show up.

IMO I wouldn't run the cycle if you know your going to get tested, it's not worth running the risk of popping a positive. That plus you'll be a nervous wreck on the whole cycle. Ultimately it's your decision.

Good luck

 

[Arabian]

50mg Ed is going to knot you and IMO is not worth the pain. I would do Prop with EO before I did Suspension . I did 25mg ED for about 2 weeks about 4 years ago and that was enough for me. lol Best of luck to you.

 

[otlcheater]

You have to worry about what kind of test their using as well. Depends if it detects metabolites/traces to identify the compound vs. blood testing for elevated test/estro/lipids/etc. The latter being the least possibility. I guess it depends on your situation.

Nobody can determine your chances for gyno, you only have clues such as pubertal symptoms and problems in the past. The amount of test you take is negligible, you have to remember some people get gyno even without steroids. If you haven't had problems in the past and feel comfortable that you won't in the future go ahead, there's many alternative ways to reverse gyno now besides surgery if it does show up.

IMO I wouldn't run the cycle if you know your going to get tested, it's not worth running the risk of popping a positive. That plus you'll be a nervous wreck on the whole cycle. Ultimately it's your decision.

Good luck

I've never heard of a blood test being done in the off season, but in season, blood test would be a possibility. With all of the information I've gathered about the test I'd be facing, they're looking for metabolites and test-Epitest ratios. If the Test Epitest ratios are high, then they will use isotope testing to figure out what I was taking..

I've never had a problem with Gyno, but my only experience with AAS was Test-E, but I ran it with anti-e several years ago.

Thanks for the info brother. From what I've been told, I can get results at a low dose, and get away with it as long as I keep it 4:1. It's been awhile since I've touched the stuff, but beginners have had results on 250mg of Test-E a week. So it would make sense if I was getting 40mg/day (280mg wk) of pure test.

 

[otlcheater]

50mg Ed is going to knot you and IMO is not worth the pain. I would do Prop with EO before I did Suspension . I did 25mg ED for about 2 weeks about 4 years ago and that was enough for me. lol Best of luck to you.

LOL yeah I've been told it is going to be painful. My source has even offered getting me some lidocaine, but I turned it down. What kind of results did you get at 25mg ED? My only concern is sides. I can get Epitest, if I did want to increase the dosage on the test suspension. But obviously, the more I take the higher the chance of sides. Thanks for the info!

 

[Cipp21]

I've never heard of a blood test being done in the off season, but in season, blood test would be a possibility. With all of the information I've gathered about the test I'd be facing, they're looking for metabolites and test-Epitest ratios. If the Test Epitest ratios are high, then they will use isotope testing to figure out what I was taking..

I've never had a problem with Gyno, but my only experience with AAS was Test-E, but I ran it with anti-e several years ago.

Thanks for the info brother. From what I've been told, I can get results at a low dose, and get away with it as long as I keep it 4:1. It's been awhile since I've touched the stuff, but beginners have had results on 250mg of Test-E a week. So it would make sense if I was getting 40mg/day (280mg wk) of pure test.

Just gotta be careful. A couple of study's I've read show suspension with a half life of 36-39 hours, much longer than what is believed. Also there can be some solid test particles floating around in there that won't completely absorb immediately, leading to spikes 4-7 days later. I'm not trying to scare you, just trying to give you some facts. It'd be nicer if someone could chime in with some experience in situations like yours.

Other than that 280mg/wk is a decent dose. That's all pure test. A cycle of 500mg test e is really only around 350mg/wk considering ester weight.

You could also opt to use SARMS, most tests (maybe pro athletes) don't have the ability to test for their metabolites and they shouldn't mess with your epitest ratios either. Not only that but you don't have to worry about any AI or sides and suppression is normally little to none. Results wouldn't be as drastic as an AAS but it would probably be a safer alternative.

 

[bigjohn83]

How bad of sides would I experience from Test Suspension at no more than 50 mg ED, and probably more like 40 mg ED? I'm trying to get to and stay 4:1 ratio. No warning for the drug test, which means I cannot take an anti-estrogen. So what are my chances of Gyno from that low of a dose, and how long could I run that cycle.

How much test can you run and still stay in 4:1 ratio?

 

[otlcheater]

Just gotta be careful. A couple of study's I've read show suspension with a half life of 36-39 hours, much longer than what is believed. Also there can be some solid test particles floating around in there that won't completely absorb immediately, leading to spikes 4-7 days later. I'm not trying to scare you, just trying to give you some facts. It'd be nicer if someone could chime in with some experience in situations like yours.

Other than that 280mg/wk is a decent dose. That's all pure test. A cycle of 500mg test e is really only around 350mg/wk considering ester weight.

You could also opt to use SARMS, most tests (maybe pro athletes) don't have the ability to test for their metabolites and they shouldn't mess with your epitest ratios either. Not only that but you don't have to worry about any AI or sides and suppression is normally little to none. Results wouldn't be as drastic as an AAS but it would probably be a safer alternative.

Yeah, I went through some old threads and saw where someone was talking about the size of the crystals can effect how long it takes to release in the system. I think it even said ghat TS would still be affective at EOD shots, but I've heard ED is the only way to go. Also read that injecting it into the muscle you are working that day will help with breaking those down. But that is true, and its something I'll have to keep an eye out for.

I'll look into SARMS. Thanks

 

[miplank]

stay safe!