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dont respond to testosterone?
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badassy said:
I'm always like that though so I can't use that as a determinant. My strength has gone up a little but nothing I don't think I couldn't have achieved w/out it. Maybe my body can just tolerate more. The gains just aren't as noticable as I was expecting. From how much I've read everyone loving the stuff, either this shit is fake, I have a high tolerance, or it's over-rated.
Triple J
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its really not that unusual to not gain that much off a straight T cycle, except water from the increase estrogen, as T is natural to your body and your body has many ways to offset large amounts of T in your system. its always better to run a stack with the T, that usually results in the right synergy to get the gains rolling
bigmann245
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im on week 3 going on 4 and the test has kicked in for me. like they said above, the hornyness (is that a word?) anyway, is increasing like you would not believe. the sucky part is my wifes aunt flow is in town so im on hold until she leaves. right when the test kicks in i get the stop sign. but as far as the gym side, on top of the dbol im on, i know the test is kickin in. my weights are increasing more, im recovering from my workouts quicker. i can workout 2 times a day and still be fine. i love it. im on 750mg sust organon with 500mg test e from egypt. oh yea and 400mg deca with 50mg dbol. taking nolva just incase at 20mg/day. not chancing it.
Güclü_oglan
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bro there is no such thing as "don't respond well to test", either way:
you got too high expectations
don't train or eat properly
got shit gear
you got too high expectations
don't train or eat properly
got shit gear
dali said:
Since posting I have done a few thorough searches and have found that I am not alone. My gear is not bunk b/c I have all the sides that go along with test, I also have a few pictures to compare them to and it all checks out. Drug reference books actually state that a decreased libido is an adverse reaction to using testosterone. Females are supposed to recieve the increased libido while supplimenting it, not males. I know this is a test dominant forum but I must say my next cycle will not be having test as the headliner. It will be in there, but not the primary AS. Thanks for all the feedback.
In fact here is a similiar thread I just found ironically entitled the same:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172220&highlight=testosterone
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/showthread.php?t=172220&highlight=testosterone
bigmann245
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i dont know. the main reason why men grow they way we do in our early teens is due to increased natural test levels. at age 30 they decline so in theory raising test levels to the normal level or above should lead to increased growth. this is why men grow more muscle without trying than woman do. im talking overall, i know there are some genetic freaks that will be bigger than a man but overall. but for someone not to respond to test you just might have a genetic disorder in your genes that dont let your body grow on test. it could happen. hey i learned that there is a very small percent of people that are imune to pepper spray. i had to be sprayed going through police training in the military in order to carry it. but there are a small few that are literally imune to pepper spray. so for a man to not respond to test, allthough it may be a very small few, can in fact exist. human nature is very complex and sometimes unpredictible. hopefully you can find something your body responds well to. all i know is im growing like a weed on miracle grow. large and in charge.
buttbeater
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i had this happen to me too on the cycle that i am on. i did 500mgs of test for ten weeks, but weeks 1-4 i did 20 mgs of d-bol. all the weight i put on from the dbol i kept and didn't gain another pound from the test, but i got a lot of test sides, including great recovery and lots of zits. i decided that once my ten weeks were up on test that i would start d-bol again at 30mgs a day. i've been doing that for a week and i have gained 3 pounds. i think that what might have happened is that i gained a lot of water with d-bol, and then dropped some of it when on test and gained muscle, but i don't know.
buttbeater said:
Yea that does sound pretty similiar to my situation, I plan on picking the dbol back up wks 9-12 then start pct. I have seen strength increases but minimal. I truly think that 500mg just isn't enough for me personally. Next cycle I plan on including tren, eq, or deca, along with test. That should do it.
Güclü_oglan
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testosterone has got similiar side effects to many of the other hormones used in fakes
Tweakle
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possibly you got fake gear, possibly 500mg is just too small a dose to have much effect on you. it's possible to run a low dose cycle and get pretty much nothing from it if you're already close to or over your genetic potential
also, with long ester test it takes me 6-8 weeks to start 'feeling it'... none of this '"I gained 30lbs in 5 days"" bs, test is a slow burner for me unless its prop
also, with long ester test it takes me 6-8 weeks to start 'feeling it'... none of this '"I gained 30lbs in 5 days"" bs, test is a slow burner for me unless its prop
Tweakle said:
I think you hit it on the head in that post. I am a hard gainer and a decent size for my genetics (205lbs, 10%bf, 6'1") I graduated from high school weighing 155lbs. Its been a struggle putting on the lean muscle and I've had to be a bit more strict than others with diet and training. I know I've been at my genetic potential for a couple of years now.
I know it isn't fake b/c of the reputable source and I do have not one or two but most all of the sides related w/ test ie. flushing, sweating, anxiety, increased B/P, testicular atrophy, and everyone's favorite acne.
I was taking a 3cc(500mgs) shot once a week, I just now am going to break it up by every fourth/third day of 1.5cc(250mgs).
buttbeater
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i definately new mine was real test because my strength went through the roof. i gained next to no strength when the dbol was only active (as i don't really get stronger on it ever) and then i was benching 295 for 3 reps on the bench. i think i am near my genetic potential as well. my stats are very similar to yours pdaddy, i am 205lbs at about 8-9% bf, at 6'1". i was very skinny in high school.
i'm with you guys. this is my second cycle and it's test 3 only 500mg a week. i didn't gain that much on first cycle either, i'm in week 4 right now and maybe gained 5 lbs. like u guys i was tiny in high school and right around your stats 211 with about 13%bf. test just isn't doin it for me. and its real cause i checked the qv website and everything
