Don't bake steroids at 250 degrees F!

[TraxZBT]

I don't know the science behind it. All i know is that i baked my sust300 and 2 homebrew batches and grew like a weed. Must have no denatured everything

 

[Keep it beefy]

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it doesn't sound that far fetched. besides, the mechanism is a bit complicated, unless you have at least some chemistry background. i don't know it offhand, but i can tell you that temperature is vital to any reaction rate. temperature gives the molecules the activation energy necessary to complete a reaction, and is a catalyst for most every reaction, even exothermic ones. so it makes sense that oxidation could be highly accelerated at certain temperatures. what temperature that is, depends on the reaction. another thing, oxygen is everywhere bro. O2 molecules are in the oil, and in the air above the oil. just cuz you can't see it in the oil, don't mean it ain't there. how do you think fish breath underwater? it's called diffusion...and all gases will diffuse through fluids at a rate proportional to the partial pressure (ie the partial pressure of CO2 in soda cans is kept at 5 atmospheres, so that the equilibrium is shifted to the extent that the soda will keep it's carbonation. but at lower pressures, after you open the can, the gases can escape).

How about asking your buddy exactly how, ie what the mechanism is for the "denaturing" at these temps? i would like to know. BTW, where is the oxygen coming from and what are the by products of this chemical reaction? I think everyone would like to know. This is not a flame but is just making your buddy subject to backing up his opinion just like the rest of us otherwise his opinions are just that, opinions, unsubstantiated and worthless. BTW, i will freely admit that I do not have a clue about the degradation and oxidation of steroids so would apprecaite some scientific enlightenment.

 

[trial0r]

i think there is a lot of truth to this...i got virtually nothing out of my last cycle and i baked my gear at 250. my diet was solid and my workouts were great but weight gain was short lived and nothing to write home about...i suspected baking to be the problem but i couldnt find any info to back my claim up.

 

[40butpumpin]

Good post, Realgains, thanks.

 

[firstenrgy]

Bump for more info.

 

[jboldman]

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Well fish dont breath in oil last I checked! <GRIN> I dont think we need a basic chem lesson and i think I could handle the details if someone were to give them. I just do not see how these molecules would be breaking down at that temp. So the question is what temp does cause a break down in these steroids? Does it have to be in the presence of air or will the miniscule amounts of oxygen available in oil be sufficient. THese are the questions taht need answers.

it doesn't sound that far fetched. besides, the mechanism is a bit complicated, unless you have at least some chemistry background. i don't know it offhand, but i can tell you that temperature is vital to any reaction rate. temperature gives the molecules the activation energy necessary to complete a reaction, and is a catalyst for most every reaction, even exothermic ones. so it makes sense that oxidation could be highly accelerated at certain temperatures. what temperature that is, depends on the reaction. another thing, oxygen is everywhere bro. O2 molecules are in the oil, and in the air above the oil. just cuz you can't see it in the oil, don't mean it ain't there. how do you think fish breath underwater? it's called diffusion...and all gases will diffuse through fluids at a rate proportional to the partial pressure (ie the partial pressure of CO2 in soda cans is kept at 5 atmospheres, so that the equilibrium is shifted to the extent that the soda will keep it's carbonation. but at lower pressures, after you open the can, the gases can escape).