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Does using steroids at a young age really affect hormones later in life?

bigcat11

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Let me start off with saying please don't post anything to flame. I'm here for advice and opinions from personal experience...

I just turned 19 and have already done two planned and researched cycles. I know many will say this is stupid and I agree but I am young and make mistakes. I began knowing what I was getting into. Prior to my cycles I had been working out religiously since I was 15 and with proper diet and lifting routines I got up to 6'0" 185lbs 10% bf. After two cycles I am now at 205lbs 8-9% bf.

First cycle was the basic 10wk 500mg Test with proper PCT and AIs throughout. Second was the same with Dbol kickstart and Winstrol end with PCT and AIs throughout. Even had blood tests before, during, and after both cycle with perfect panels. Cycles were over the course of a year. I definately follow the TIME OFF = TIME ON rule.

My question is this: has anyone started using at an age around mine and see negative side effects of hormones?

Now the reason I am asking this is because I have yet to see any sort of sexual side effect... no libido crash, no PCT crash, no loss of sex drive. I have yet to see any negative aspects to my steroid use. I believe in use rather than abuse.

If my steroid use has yet to slow down my hormones can I expect them to lower in the future?

Im at a point where I don't know if I should wait until i'm older or to continue since I have yet to see any negative effects.

I am all ears and will take all advice and critism to heart. I'm just trying to make the best decision possible.

Lets hear some input...
 
I juiced from 17-19. It was ok, I waited again till 22. it was great, I got MUCH better results and way less sides. Just give it a couple years bro, you wont regret it.
 
juicer99 said:
I juiced from 17-19. It was ok, I waited again till 22. it was great, I got MUCH better results and way less sides. Just give it a couple years bro, you wont regret it.
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Yea, I am leaning towards waiting and going natty but it is so hard when I have only seen so much good from my use lol. Thx for the input.
 
I started when I was 23 or 24, can't remember for sure, not super young. But, one mistake I made was that I leaned too heavily on the cycles for results at first. Maybe you don't have this problem, but I did. It wasn't that I was taking a lot of stuff, it's just that I used it as a crutch. Now that I'm a little more experienced I look ten times better several months off cycle than I did back then when on. I've learned how to train and eat in a way that gives me (in particular) good results. Steroids have honestly become just another part of my training, dieting etc. not half of the whole like it used to be. I do a short cycle (6-8 weeks tops) a couple times per year and keep the doses moderate and have no trouble recovering hormonally.

I'm guessing that you are done growing taller, but sometimes it is hard to know for sure. If this is a concern, really watch your estrogen levels. Keep them low so the growth plates don't fuse prematurely. And, just know that soooo much more can be done naturally than we would like to believe sometimes. Good luck!


Jacob
 
You will stunt your growth.
I grew inch from age 19 -21 and would have grown more had i not did a cycle back at 19
It was small 30mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 6 weeks but I know it stunted my growth.

When in front of a mirror my body has a unusual look to it.
My legs are fairly long and arms are long but yet my torso is very short almost like its missing afew inches and should have grown 2 inches taller.
I am 5'8 and with the 2 iches added in i would be 5'10 exactly the same size as my dad and older brother.

it makes my back look like it goes right into my ass when looking at me from behind and makes my apear to have really no midsection at all.
It does give me quite a wide shoulder apperance though .

If I had it all again to do over, I would change it all.
Atleast that first cycle and waited untill i was 21
 
I would be suprised if you can find much research done on this but it seems to me as an older BB, that there are more guys starting up at your age. My training partner is one of them. I am pleased that you have had no adverse side effects. However the question remains how will you be effected down the track. I understand that there is one top pro BB that started using gear at 15 including GH. I guess it depends where you set your personal goals and ambitions as to how much "risk" you take.
 
chazk said:
You will stunt your growth.
I grew inch from age 19 -21 and would have grown more had i not did a cycle back at 19
It was small 30mg of Dianabol - methandrostenolone - for 6 weeks but I know it stunted my growth.

When in front of a mirror my body has a unusual look to it.
My legs are fairly long and arms are long but yet my torso is very short almost like its missing afew inches and should have grown 2 inches taller.
I am 5'8 and with the 2 iches added in i would be 5'10 exactly the same size as my dad and older brother.

it makes my back look like it goes right into my ass when looking at me from behind and makes my apear to have really no midsection at all.
It does give me quite a wide shoulder apperance though .

If I had it all again to do over, I would change it all.
Atleast that first cycle and waited untill i was 21
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This is one of the potential sides, steroids can fuse the epiphyseal plates and stop growth. You are quite tall already, but this very generous and honest post does state some of the issues.

The one thing I would want you to consider is that your natural testosterone and growth levels are at their max right now, testosterone does not 'peak' until around 26, and then levels stay high until around 30-32.

Whenever you put something into the body, it gets lazy and frequently stops making whatever you put into it. Cellular receptors can be up or down regulated, this is also one of the issues with recreational drugs, and why people often need to take 'more' to get the same effect.

The other issue is that it may not affect one person, but it may affect another differently. It is that double edged sword of 'we are all the same' but 'we are also all different'. There are so many genetic, physiological and biological subtle variations...........................all of which can have an impact.

I think there is a place for the responsible use of steroids, you may want to enjoy the benefits of youth with your naturally high hormone levels and consider doing cycles again as those levels decrease later in life.
 
It is not the supernally high levels of testosterone or the synthetic hormones from other anabolic androgenic steroids that are going to stunt your growth. It is the vastly greater amounts of estrogen your body will produce in an attempt to create an equilibrium within your body. This is why males are typically taller than females. A spike in estrogen brings about a close in the growth plates at the end of puberty naturally.

This is also why many men develop gynecomastia on cycle (though in some cases it's progesterone related, as is the case with trenbolone A).

As long as you take a reasonably effective aromatase inhibitor on-cycle you should be able to preclude and prevent estrogen's effect of fusing your growth plates. Obviously, include relevant chemicals in PCT as well, as I'd put money on the fact that most growth plate closure is a result of careless (or no) PCT.

But you also must remember, and be ready to accept, that fused growth plates (and by proxy stunted growth) are always a possible side effect, and once it's done, there is no going back.
 
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I too started at age 19 and used until age 23 and am now 44. If I had a do over I would not use at that age, but would wait until I was older. I do not know what age I would have started but I think your body might tell you.

I did build a great deal of strength that stayed with me. The size did not stay as much because of my active lifestyle, but I have always stayed very muscular and lean from working out.

I have had no issues other than hair on the back that I think I would not have had. As far as growth plates closing one can only guess if they have finished growing or not at age 19.

If your going to use I would only suggest that you do so in moderation. It sounds like you have a good base. And unless your going to use your body for your livelihood then you don't have alot of reasons to take at this age.
 
I ran a deca and then a winstrol and proprionate cycle when I was 18 and kept going, and then came off at 22. The strength gains I got were beyond anything I was later to get, and they stayed with me. I really had to bump up the dosages to get the same effect later on. Now 26, I think early use has affected my natural testosterone production, because my testosterone levels and sex drive aren't great unless I use an androgen now. I agree that it does depend on your goals, but I wish I had exhausted diet and training first.
 
Yea, I think I am going to wait... One concern of mine is mostly that I don't want to become dependant on gear for gains. I enjoy working out and seeing my body transform. Stunted growth isn't an issue because I am already as tall as my dad, brother, and grandpa but I would hate to only see results from drugs. I'll probably stay off for at least a year and make some natural gains. Thanks for the advice guys.
 
lol i started pretty young too and its unreal so far but idk im takin alot of high dose risks it could turn bad but not today
 
18 start 20 now only ever do low dose but no problems as of yet. I know im a hipacrit(if thats how you spell it?) but im ready to take the long term sides if it goes wrong if your not then stay natty for as long as you dont see gains. I just try to keep as safe as pos. its never a good idea to start so young.
 
I know its old tread but I like to comment xD

In my experience, as long as you know how to lift correctly, know the fact that eating will build muscle not roids, AI, PCT, and everything else, you are pretty much in good hand. Taking steroids is just taking a risk to get a benefit. If your so worried about later life and long tern side effects, your not ready for steroids, regardless of your age. Me, however, im at the point where Im waaay too obssessed about bodybuilding that I gave up growing any taller, having relationship with girls yada yada yada. I was researching PCT and chemical properties of steroids when I was 12, just to give you how serious I was. When I turned 18, did a nice Test-E 500/week for 12 weeks, finished with PCT, gained nice 15 pounds and kept all of it. Now that im 25, i have been off the cycle for 3 years, and my hormone level is noraml, all my intestines fucntion properly. Only thing thats diffrent than other average 25 yo peeps is that Im way bigger :D
 
old thread that was bumped but i will chime in and say the sooner you start, the sooner you will go on HRT.

if you are gonna juice young and then stop juicing then whats the point of juicing young? the facts are people who commit to bodybuilding and start juicing will not stop juicing because the gains and fun you have on the sauce make it too fun not to. so its better start at a later age.. it is not expensive to buy a bag of creatine and some protein powder and a 30 a month gym membership. once you get into AAS, supplements, PCT, ancillaries, needles, bac water, hcg, and all the other shit involved with cycling its gets expensive as shit. so i dont see how someone at 18 who starts juicing is doing themselves any favors. take that money and invest it into your college education or a business and wait till you are older.. you make 400 bucks a week working at best buy and waste all your money on spinning rims and juice.. its stupid IMO
 
^ Yep, this. Look at Arnold, or any former pro that has had to stop juicing - they look terrible.

If you're going to stay ON for the rest of your life then you may not have problems, otherwise, you should wait.
 
liffalot said:
^ Yep, this. Look at Arnold, or any former pro that has had to stop juicing - they look terrible.

If you're going to stay ON for the rest of your life then you may not have problems, otherwise, you should wait.
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Stallone looks pretty damn good for an old man
 
If you weren't done growing, you are now.

You don't even need roids at that age. Your nat test should be plenty high for gains. At your age, i got myself up to 180lbs/10%body fat... 5'8" and was benching 330 and squatting 420 naturally. I made easy gains until my mid 20's. The difference is that you have to really work for your gains. I was keeping up with my friends who were juicing, simply because I was committed to making the gains on my own.
 
Studying long term effects of AAS use is impossible, simply too many other factors involved. You have genetics which could predispose you to low test as you get older. You have lifestyle, diet, work, exposure to various chems over the course of your life etc. The only way to get any decent, and I say decent because it would also be subject to many outside variables, would be to raise thousands of people in a controlled environment all eating the same food over the course of an extended period of time, say 20+ years. Just isnt feasible.
 
stevesmi said:
old thread that was bumped but i will chime in and say the sooner you start, the sooner you will go on HRT.

if you are gonna juice young and then stop juicing then whats the point of juicing young? the facts are people who commit to bodybuilding and start juicing will not stop juicing because the gains and fun you have on the sauce make it too fun not to. so its better start at a later age.. it is not expensive to buy a bag of creatine and some protein powder and a 30 a month gym membership. once you get into AAS, supplements, PCT, ancillaries, needles, bac water, hcg, and all the other shit involved with cycling its gets expensive as shit. so i dont see how someone at 18 who starts juicing is doing themselves any favors. take that money and invest it into your college education or a business and wait till you are older.. you make 400 bucks a week working at best buy and waste all your money on spinning rims and juice.. its stupid IMO
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I agree with Steve completely with everything he said here. People start juice way too young IMO, and consequently end up on TRT too soon. Waiting til at least your upper 20s or into the 30s is a better choice.
 
Nelson Montana said:
Didn;t read the whole thread. But the answer is "yes."
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^this. And i tend to agree with Rick on this one as well - 25 at least unless you're knowledgeable enough and have bloodwork to show that your body is done with its natural youthful testosterone.
 
liffalot said:
^this. And i tend to agree with Rick on this one as well - 25 at least unless you're knowledgeable enough and have bloodwork to show that your body is done with its natural youthful testosterone.
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Done with natural youthful testosterone at age 25?
 
Dont think about the gains as the main focuz, think about the negative things from steroids. People talk like the juice is so epic without knowing sjiat..

It takes a toll on your cholesterol, hormones, liver, and can effect your social life to some degree. Yep im just gonna shoot some HCG, some pregnant urin from a women.

Maybe use some nolvadex, anti cancer estrogene serm... <-- even the name freaks me out

You get the point! Yes i have juiced and actually regret it quite alot, i wish i had waited untill i was older! My health is my main concern, after that comes alot of different things then looking BIG or just fit.. Whats the point of looking like an monkey, getting attention from guys instead of girls :P and being rotten inside.

Do some natural gains, wait untill your old enough! you are the best one to decide when its time, no one else. Im not saying juice isent the most epic thing in the world, i would love to jump back on again! actually cant wait.. But for now im getting as healthy as possible, cuz my liver counts wherent that greay + cholesterol

when everything is returned to normal, and im very low in fat.. Ill do a small dose cycle 250mg test as this would seem the most natural to do. Being lower in fat, shows of more of the gains you make by cycleing..
 
While not trying to support underage juicing.......the only thing I can see where it would be warranted would be in a football type situation. Where you might squeak into a D1 school but need size and strength you just can't achieve naturally to move up the food chain. Or need to try and get yourself into a D1 school or move from D2 to D1 This would be for a case where it is being used to enhance ones athletic functionallity. Not just looks whig is where a lot of care(myself included). Plus this is a case where a person uses what's needed to get an edge. Maybe gain 10-15lb in an off season.
Whatever...not that it matters and I don't advocate young juicing. But I'm this case where I feel you have to do what you have to do.
 
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