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does my cutting cycle look good ?

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rohanum

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currently im doing my first cycle ever of test @ 500 mgs e5d ... my plan is to bulk and gain as much mass as possible in those 12 weeks and then after that start a cutting phase for 5 weeks.. during the cut ill be taking-

test e 250 mgs e5d
proviron @50 mgs
albuterol (clen alternative) @16-24 mgs per day

I know how to diet... ive been known to loose 5 lbs of fat in 2 weeks

what kind of results should I expect provided a proper diet and these compound listed
 
That's way too long to cycle... Expecially for your first run. Finish your 12 week cycle, then PCT, then wait 16 weeks and at that point start a cutting cycle.
 
Cipp21 said:
That's way too long to cycle... Expecially for your first run. Finish your 12 week cycle, then PCT, then wait 16 weeks and at that point start a cutting cycle.
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oh sorry m8 I forgot to mention im not cycling im blasting a cruising ... plan is to stay on forever .. do a 12-16 week cycle and then take trt shots for 12 weeks and repeat
 
rohanum said:
oh sorry m8 I forgot to mention im not cycling im blasting a cruising ... plan is to stay on forever .. do a 12-16 week cycle and then take trt shots for 12 weeks and repeat
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Pretty nonchalant bout trt being this is your first ever cycle....r u ready for the consequences?

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bonacris said:
Why are you considering trt.. is this self prescribed

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I am 26 years old with average-below average test levels m8... I was diagnosed with mild hypothyroidism when I was younger which was the main reason for this... my levels were normal but I wasnt making any measurbale gains in the gym... the moment I started cycling everytime I stepped into the gym I could push more weight ... and this was at 250 mgs/week only... at 500 my strength went throygh the fuckibg roof.. so much that Im not even sure what my limits are now... a week ago I was repping 170 for shoulders ... today I just did 190

I think coming off is a waste of everything... you loose gains, go through depression, etc for what? why would you do it when u know you are going to cycle again after finishing your recovery period
 
rohanum said:
what are these potential consequences I should be ready for?
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I thought u said this is ur first cycle. By ur statement it sounds like uve cycled a few times at least....or maybe im reading it wrong. Anyway if u go on trt ur most likely gonna shut urself down and may never be able to restart natural test production again as well as never be able to have children but it sounds like ur already having issues so maybe those issues are already imminent. 26 is awfully young for self prescibed trt. Is this dr recommended or a decision u made. To do this just for the sake of keeping gains is reckless imo at so young an age.

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no such thing as "cruising" the proper term is lifetime testosterone replacement therapy---so at your age a good guess would be 60 more years of doing gear.
 
joonp said:
I thought u said this is ur first cycle. By ur statement it sounds like uve cycled a few times at least....or maybe im reading it wrong. Anyway if u go on trt ur most likely gonna shut urself down and may never be able to restart natural test production again as well as never be able to have children but it sounds like ur already having issues so maybe those issues are already imminent. 26 is awfully young for self prescibed trt. Is this dr recommended or a decision u made. To do this just for the sake of keeping gains is reckless imo at so young an age.

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this is my first actual AAS cycle ive done ph cycles like halodrol before which turned out pretty shit and I had to quit it. I dont know how other steroids affect sperm count but for me , on test my sperm count ,volume ,everything has SIGNIFICANTLY improved. I really dont see why I should go back to depression , low sex drive etc when I could stay on test shots and avoid everything. And also im going to be cycling for life as I get older ill decrease the dosage but ill stay on test.. and anyway you need test shots once you hit 45-60 yrs old.
 
rohanum said:
this is my first actual AAS cycle ive done ph cycles like halodrol before which turned out pretty shit and I had to quit it. I dont know how other steroids affect sperm count but for me , on test my sperm count ,volume ,everything has SIGNIFICANTLY improved. I really dont see why I should go back to depression , low sex drive etc when I could stay on test shots and avoid everything. And also im going to be cycling for life as I get older ill decrease the dosage but ill stay on test.. and anyway you need test shots once you hit 45-60 yrs old.
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R u talkin bout helladrol? I ran that and liked it a lot. Pretty much like a short test cycle. So this a decision u made? Did ur dr classify u wih a thyroid problem or did u self determine this? Based on what uve said it all sounds like reasoning to blast and cruise that u have determined. Anyways it sounds like ur gonna do what u want regardless of what we say. So i feel theres little point in trying to help u. So good luck and i hope u dont regret later on in life

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joonp said:
R u talkin bout helladrol? I ran that and liked it a lot. Pretty much like a short test cycle. So this a decision u made? Did ur dr classify u wih a thyroid problem or did u self determine this? Based on what uve said it all sounds like reasoning to blast and cruise that u have determined. Anyways it sounds like ur gonna do what u want regardless of what we say. So i feel theres little point in trying to help u. So good luck and i hope u dont regret later on in life

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no its called halodrol and it gave me nothing but lowered estrogen, lowered test and lots of depression... I was diagnosed by a doctor and im prescribed thyroxin pills .. hypothyroidism effects testosterone levels. I dont see why I shouldnt do it m8... im open to all advices ... just tell me why I shouldnt do it cause to m the positives far outweigh the negatives... I get my gear from the pharmacy and its very cheap too.
 
why do you guys hate self prescribed trt so much?
why not enjoy more than what medicine considers normal testosterone levels aka great sex drive, health and strength ALL of this even at 60 years old?
and besides in time he might be able to get it prescribed by a doc so he does not give one shit about traveling with amps in his bag

and everyone who's doing this takes HCG (yeah in high doses and for alot of weeks it is what it is) when they want to have a kid
 
motionx77 said:
why do you guys hate self prescribed trt so much?
why not enjoy more than what medicine considers normal testosterone levels aka great sex drive, health and strength ALL of this even at 60 years old?
and besides in time he might be able to get it prescribed by a doc so he does not give one shit about traveling with amps in his bag

and everyone who's doing this takes HCG (yeah in high doses and for alot of weeks it is what it is) when they want to have a kid
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Because its self prescribed.. as little as most doctors know about steroids I would go to a licensed endocrinologist to get trt.. this is for life and not to be fucked around with


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bonacris said:
Because its self prescribed.. as little as most doctors know about steroids I would go to a licensed endocrinologist to get trt.. this is for life and not to be fucked around with


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people have been doing this for decades, and nobody died from taking low dose test their entire life. and most endos are as useful as a hole in the shoe

i'm going to let the man make his own decisions
 
motionx77 said:
people have been doing this for decades, and nobody died from taking low dose test their entire life. and most endos are as useful as a hole in the shoe

i'm going to let the man make his own decisions
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that is true m8 endos really are shit... I had hypothyroidism and the endo wouldnt put me on thyroid pills straight away... made me wait till stuff got really bad .. I was lethargic and tired all the time for 4 months. They arent going to prescribe test if your levels arent extremely low and if it is treatable... I tried getting mine prescribed ... results turned out to be low-normal .. put me on some test boosting bullshit instead.
 
myeah people being at the bottom 1% of their age group with their testosterone (still normal by the chart, keep in mind) and getting denied trt
i know of someone who got to an endo this time with 140-something ng/dl (under the normal levels) and the doctor just put his hand on his delt and said well your testosteron might be low but it's doing it's job for you i mean your muscles are hard so you don't need trt[/b]
i mean it takes a special kind of idiot to say that and still have a medical license lol
 
motionx77 said:
myeah people being at the bottom 1% of their age group with their testosterone (still normal by the chart, keep in mind) and getting denied trt
i know of someone who got to an endo this time with 140-something ng/dl (under the normal levels) and the doctor just put his hand on his delt and said well your testosteron might be low but it's doing it's job for you i mean your muscles are hard so you don't need trt[/b]
i mean it takes a special kind of idiot to say that and still have a medical license lol
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hahahah :biggrin:
 
motionx77 said:
myeah people being at the bottom 1% of their age group with their testosterone (still normal by the chart, keep in mind) and getting denied trt
i know of someone who got to an endo this time with 140-something ng/dl (under the normal levels) and the doctor just put his hand on his delt and said well your testosteron might be low but it's doing it's job for you i mean your muscles are hard so you don't need trt[/b]
i mean it takes a special kind of idiot to say that and still have a medical license lol
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what really pissed me off is when I told the endo that I was into bodybuilding and stuff so I needed good levels of test and then he goes and tells me ' your testosterone levels were determined by your genetics.. it is normal ... you just werent meant to be a bodybuilder.. I cant put you on testosterone shots because you want to be a bodybuilder.. it is steroids'
 
Hey I have hypothyroidism and I've seen 3 different doctors. One of them overseas put me on higher dosage of levothyroxine. And it felt great menatally to physically. He gave me two years worth of meds.

The ones in the US keeps given me the run around. It seems it all comes down to more visits mean more money to them. I say 90% of US doctors give a shit about you.

Just my two cents

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