Does anyone remember this board back in 2000

[Frackal]

The chatboard and aas board were so awesome back then....I kind of miss it...I mean, I remember when you didnt get ripped on for being a bodybuilder on the chatboard... hah .. and it wasnt a gathering place for schizoids and sociopaths... anyone else miss it? Do a search on the old search engine to reminisce

 

[Citruscide]

I wasn't around in 2000...but it sounds about something I would like... Getting ripped on for being a bodybuilder sucks... but getting all the PM's asking for advice on how to build up makes it all worth while to me...

True, there are alot of assclowns and trick ass hos around here... but hey, just like the real world, eh?

C-ditty

 

[TxArmyGuy]

Yeah I do...but I can remember some people I miss from those days and some people I'm glad to see aren't around now

Frack I'm sure there someone people you dont miss

 

[Night Fly]

Frack...I remember it. It was awesome. I totally agree. We sure had some good times. That was back when you actually liked women, too! J/K with you.

 

[Frackal]

Truly true but the peeps back then were alot more fun then now

 

[Citruscide]

Truly true but the peeps back then were alot more fun then now

I just think that the peeps back then were all about bodybuilding... I mean, this is a CHAT board... but it should relate alot to bodybuilding... not the wannabe's viewpoint...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

lol yep...and you dont have to be a juicer in any fashion to be a bodybuilder...but youve got 1/2 the people on here that seriously do not even workout at a regular basis, a quarter that dont like bodybuilders much, and then about 25 percent that follow the lifestyle

 

[supersizeme]

these days this place(i.e. the chat board) seems to be a place where people come to get therapy for whatever issues they have from other people on the internet because they are depressed. the summer of 2000 was good times. it seemed less like a staind song and had more busting on each other and talking about some weights. and asking to see various members' breasts.
i think the problem is that in the past two years, the internet has obviously gotten more and more accessible, thus increasing the likelihood of your average joe who may have only a minor interest in fitness running across this place and getting warm fuzzies over reading the chat board. whereas 2-3 years ago you were more likely to have found elite by specifically seeking out bodybuilding.
i dunno, just my theory. i am of course, fucking retarded, so i could be way off base.

 

[Citruscide]

lol yep...and you dont have to be a juicer in any fashion to be a bodybuilder...but youve got 1/2 the people on here that seriously do not even workout at a regular basis, a quarter that dont like bodybuilders much, and then about 25 percent that follow the lifestyle

I agree. The training section is still ok... I mean, at least there they talk about REAL bodybuilding issues... the ignorance is kept to a minimum...

But here in chat we have 220lb (30% bf) crudstainers, skinny fucks, those guys who workout, but just don't know what it is about... or just flat out pieces of shit...

Sorry if I'm a bit harsh... but as far as bodybuilding goes, I've got respect for around 1/4-1/3 of the people on EF... the rest (or their multiple handles) are constantly anti... I mean, whenever HI posts, he gets shit... why? Because he talks the truth? Because he has worked hard to achieve his body? Wow...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

Yes SSME exactly

 

[starfish]

Just leave if you don't like it.

This board must have thousands of members now. No way can you keep it to just what you want.

It is the CHAT BOARD. Not the chat only if you life weights and are a certain bodyfat board.


Whine and bitch if you want but if you are THAT worried about it you probably should get off the internet for awhile. Experience real life stuff.

 

[supersizeme]

Just leave if you don't like it.

This board must have thousands of members now. No way can you keep it to just what you want.

It is the CHAT BOARD. Not the chat only if you life weights and are a certain bodyfat board.


Whine and bitch if you want but if you are THAT worried about it you probably should get off the internet for awhile. Experience real life stuff.

You're cute when you get all authoritative. Raaaow.

 

[starfish]

You're cute when you get all authoritative. Raaaow.

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Frackal]

Just leave if you don't like it.

This board must have thousands of members now. No way can you keep it to just what you want.

It is the CHAT BOARD. Not the chat only if you life weights and are a certain bodyfat board.


Whine and bitch if you want but if you are THAT worried about it you probably should get off the internet for awhile. Experience real life stuff.

Seriously...


Shut up.

 

[Citruscide]

Just leave if you don't like it.

This board must have thousands of members now. No way can you keep it to just what you want.

It is the CHAT BOARD. Not the chat only if you life weights and are a certain bodyfat board.


Whine and bitch if you want but if you are THAT worried about it you probably should get off the internet for awhile. Experience real life stuff.

If you're not part of the solution... you are part of the problem...

C-ditty

 

[starfish]

Seriously...


Shut up.

Only if you will fuck off

 

[starfish]

If you're not part of the solution... you are part of the problem...

C-ditty

You are way too involved in the internet.

The solution? LOG OFF and get out in the world!

 

[Frackal]

What are you 32 going on 11

 

[starfish]

What are you 32 going on 11

At least I'm not 18 and act like a bitter old man.

 

[Citruscide]

You are way too involved in the internet.

The solution? LOG OFF and get out in the world!

http://sherm.20megsfree.com/burgerking.swf -- This is what I just heard...

Get into the real world? Log Off? That shows just how much you know about me. I HAVE been in the real world... which is why I don't take this chat board seriously... I have a new job as a personal trainer and a job offer back in Chicago as a Trademark attorney...

I think it is more like 9 Frack... her statements are random and make no sense...

Now can you dig that..................

























SUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKAAA!!!

C-ditty

 

[Puc]

i am dying to know where frackal gets these numbers from. your life does not have to revolve around something in order to experience it.

 

[Citruscide]

Now that THAT issue is settled...

Frack, I totally agree... again... Elitefitness is a FITNESS discussion board... not a "days of our lives" chat board... It is like the "smoker's lounge" for bodybuilders... a place were they can hang out and chill... or at least that's what it WAS...

C-ditty

 

[starfish]

http://sherm.20megsfree.com/burgerking.swf -- This is what I just heard...

Get into the real world? Log Off? That shows just how much you know about me. I HAVE been in the real world... which is why I don't take this chat board seriously... I have a new job as a personal trainer and a job offer back in Chicago as a Trademark attorney...

I think it is more like 9 Frack... her statements are random and make no sense...

Now can you dig that..................













SUUUUUUUUCCCKKKKAAA!!!

C-ditty

You are online all the time and you know it. You tell me so. I hope you get a job and get out there. You get more miserable and immature by the day.

Trust me, if I thought you had something to offer other than bashing women and attacking good people I would not have TURNED DOWN the Vegas trip you offerred me MULTIPLE TIMES.


SUCKAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Frackal]

The US Census Bureau puckles..and you know I'm right

 

[saint808]

i always thought chat and conversation was a place to go when i got sick of hearing how everyone was 240 lbs and ripped, chiseled, and jacked at 3% bodyfat. Hey i love the gym but even i get tired of saying yes you can drink winny.

 

[starfish]

i am dying to know where frackal gets these numbers from. your life does not have to revolve around something in order to experience it.

Believe it or not I really enjoy your posts.

 

[starfish]

i always thought chat and conversation was a place to go when i got sick of hearing how everyone was 240 lbs and ripped, chiseled, and jacked at 3% bodyfat. Hey i love the gym but even i get tired of saying yes you can drink winny.

I agree.

 

[Frackal]

Naw we didnt talk about being ripped all day, we did talk about training and such, but it was just a cooler atmosphere, not so much animosity... the members were BODYBUILDERS, not some half ass weekend warriors that worked out regularly when they first joined, now only hit the gym on occasion because its in between burger king and walmart

 

[Puc]

how much of your fucking time can you spend discussing training techniques? get a fucking grip. talk about whatever interests you. If people are interested in what you have to say, they will respond. If not, they won't. What the fuck is the problem with that?

 

[Citruscide]

Yeah... I read at 24 Hour Fitness today that 68% of America is Overweight and 80% of America does not involve themselves in physical activity on a regular basis...

This is pathetic... From what I've seen and heard on this board, it is much the same way... A handful of people that give a shit about their bodies, their mental confidence, and the health issues associated with being a 100% lard ass...

Not to mention that sculpting your body into a great shape, which would give you the confidence to not act like a stupid cunt whore...

BTW... I often do things for other people because I feel sorry for them... such as inviting them to go places with me... I feel sorry for these people, I feel sorry for their parents, and I feel sorry for any person who has the misfortune to interact with them on any level...

C-ditty

 

[HS Lifter]

 

[Citruscide]

how much of your fucking time can you spend discussing training techniques? get a fucking grip. talk about whatever interests you. If people are interested in what you have to say, they will respond. If not, they won't. What the fuck is the problem with that?

Hey, training techniques goes in the training forum... I agree.

What I am trying to get at, is that the type of people that used to frequent EF used to be involved in every aspect of fitness... they worked constantly on building up their bodies... these type of people have a tremendious amount of respect for themselves, and in turn, others that pursue similar goals they do... because they know the hard work and dedication that goes into it...

When we get assclowns on the board who don't know what this sacrifice is... they mock it... hence, it is Elitefitness... a FITNESS Board...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

how much of your fucking time can you spend discussing training techniques? get a fucking grip. talk about whatever interests you. If people are interested in what you have to say, they will respond. If not, they won't. What the fuck is the problem with that?

relax M K Laterno ... you were around back then, read abit through the archives in the old search and you'll see what I'm saying....

 

[Citruscide]

You're going to have to Quote when you roll your eyes... because I KNOW you weren't rolling them at me Junior!

C-ditty

 

[saint808]

Naw we didnt talk about being ripped all day, we did talk about training and such, but it was just a cooler atmosphere, not so much animosity... the members were BODYBUILDERS, not some half ass weekend warriors that worked out regularly when they first joined, now only hit the gym on occasion because its in between burger king and walmart

that actually makes it more clear... i see your point in this statement... especially the animosity

 

[HS Lifter]

Actually Im mocking tunafish.

how about that so-cal gathering? Kronks set a date?

 

[Puc]

Yeah... I read at 24 Hour Fitness today that 68% of America is Overweight and 80% of America does not involve themselves in physical activity on a regular basis...

This is pathetic... From what I've seen and heard on this board, it is much the same way... A handful of people that give a shit about their bodies, their mental confidence, and the health issues associated with being a 100% lard ass...

Not to mention that sculpting your body into a great shape, which would give you the confidence to not act like a stupid cunt whore...

BTW... I often do things for other people because I feel sorry for them... such as inviting them to go places with me... I feel sorry for these people, I feel sorry for their parents, and I feel sorry for any person who has the misfortune to interact with them on any level...

C-ditty

This is a pathetic post.

1) You believe the propaganda you read at 24 fitness? congrats.

2) Being a lard ass does NOT mean you lack self confidence, or discipline. It might mean that you have simply chosen to focus your energies elsewhere, like with a job. I know plenty of people who are passionate, dedicated, and well-adjusted who became so without needing to be constantly reinforced by gawkers. It is a sign of a LACK of self confidence if you need to be ripped to validate yourself.

3) Other than darktooth, i do not know of one person on this board who does not work out. Some of us have to take breaks because of other commitments (SEE JOBS). Does that mean we have to turn off elite until we get back in the gym?

 

[Citruscide]

Actually Im mocking tunafish.

how about that so-cal gathering? Kronks set a date?

Don't know yet... I would like something toward the beginning of January... Because I might be heading back to Chicago to work at an awesome Intellectal Property law firm...

If not, I'll be out here waiting for life to get on track, billing out contracts at 100-150/hour and personal training...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

Yes puc leave immediately, I will have you escorted out

 

[Fleshcrawl]

I remember it back in 2000 when my spamming got so bad and I kept creating account after account that George was considering contacting my ip company and you had to have your registration approved by a mod.

 

[Puc]

relax M K Laterno ... you were around back then, read abit through the archives in the old search and you'll see what I'm saying....

on a personal note frack... I enjoy this place much more now. Mostly because there was a STRONG clique back then. If your name was not havoc, ssme, thickdog, frackal, agent shagwell, sailor girl, rotten, wodin, or bikinimom you just did not exist.

Do you recall when many of them went to another board so they could talk without the rest of us being involved? It was no fun to be a hater troll like myslef back then.

I also constantly see that people feel the greatest time in the history of elite was when THEY first arrived. It is the "Its new to me" phenomenon.

 

[Puc]

Yes puc leave immediately, I will have you escorted out

 

[Citruscide]

This is a pathetic post.

1) You believe the propaganda you read at 24 fitness? congrats.

2) Being a lard ass does NOT mean you lack self confidence, or discipline. It might mean that you have simply chosen to focus your energies elsewhere, like with a job. I know plenty of people who are passionate, dedicated, and well-adjusted who became so without needing to be constantly reinforced by gawkers. It is a sign of a LACK of self confidence if you need to be ripped to validate yourself.

3) Other than darktooth, i do not know of one person on this board who does not work out. Some of us have to take breaks because of other commitments (SEE JOBS). Does that mean we have to turn off elite until we get back in the gym?

It was the USA Today's report from the Federal Government's agency for physical fitness... it was posted on the wall...

Being ripped to validate oneself? You are missing the picture entirely, which is why, having not the dedication to complete the circle... Physical Health, Mental Health and Spiritual Health, that you will never see or relate to what I am talking about...

Sure... workout.. the "weekend warriors" that Frackal speaks of... You workout... but you do not build... You do not respect those who sacrifice... because you, yourself, have never sacrificed in this way...

As for jobs, I have one... sometimes two. I contract work as an attorney, and still find time to train a heavy regime... soon, I will be working as a personal trainer, as an attorney during the remaining hours of the day (20+ week) and quite possibly at nightclubs on the weekends... Will you see me not workout? Will you see me give up the Physical health...

Physical Health, Mental Health, and Spiritual health... you can't be complete without all three... you puc, as well as others on this board, lack the first, if not more

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

Hadnt thought about that puc, I guess there was a clique back then, I didnt realize it was that prominent...I dont pay alot of attention to that I guess ... I just remember when you could talk about bodybuilder type stuff on here with other bodybuilders...now you really cannot...even on the aas board its more general people... on the upside I hate fat people alot less now ...in fact I dont even care about them whereas when I worked at KFC I used to despise them and what I saw daily

 

[Citruscide]

I guess what I'm trying to say Puc... is that EF is a Fitness site... it has many forums... but the general tone of the Chat board used to be alot different... it didn't used to be comprised of a larger percentage of "non-bodybuilders" -- ya know?

I'm not trying to come down on those who aren't... hell, I aspire to be much better than I am now!!! I mean, if I do mention something about a workout on Chat, I'll always recieve certain snyde comments...

HI is a perfect example... many of his threads are attacked, for no other reason than he is proud of his accomplishments, albeit with a grain of cockyness, but it isn't cocky if you have the goods to back it up...

I didn't mean to be hostile in my post Puc... my intent was to show you why it is exactly there is a difference... I have a respect for Frack right off the bat, if for no other reason than I know he is a bodybuilder... and he puts the same sacrifice I do... we have an understanding... and if 2 individuals didn't have anything else, they'd STILL have that understanding...

This understanding is lacking among many members of the board, hence, a much different environment...

C-ditty

 

[vinylgroover]

Hadnt thought about that puc, I guess there was a clique back then, I didnt realize it was that prominent...I dont pay alot of attention to that I guess ... I just remember when you could talk about bodybuilder type stuff on here with other bodybuilders...now you really cannot...even on the aas board its more general people... on the upside I hate fat people alot less now ...in fact I dont even care about them whereas when I worked at KFC I used to despise them and what I saw daily

Frack, i can't believe that there would be too many people here that don't work out.....i mean what interest would they have in staying?

I'll probably get shot saying this here but if you go to bodybuilding.com their boards are set up far better in terms of prioritising bodybuilding with the miscellaneous sectons taking less prominence. Maybe they need a restructure here.

 

[Puc]

It was the USA Today's report from the Federal Government's agency for physical fitness... it was posted on the wall...

Being ripped to validate oneself? You are missing the picture entirely, which is why, having not the dedication to complete the circle... Physical Health, Mental Health and Spiritual Health, that you will never see or relate to what I am talking about...

Sure... workout.. the "weekend warriors" that Frackal speaks of... You workout... but you do not build... You do not respect those who sacrifice... because you, yourself, have never sacrificed in this way...

As for jobs, I have one... sometimes two. I contract work as an attorney, and still find time to train a heavy regime... soon, I will be working as a personal trainer, as an attorney during the remaining hours of the day (20+ week) and quite possibly at nightclubs on the weekends... Will you see me not workout? Will you see me give up the Physical health...

Physical Health, Mental Health, and Spiritual health... you can't be complete without all three... you puc, as well as others on this board, lack the first, if not more

C-ditty

Where the FUCK do you and your cronies get the idea that i am out of shape? I am actually in reasonably good shape. I am NOT fat. The fat thing is legacy because I have posted numerous times about being a fat child and its effects on my psyche (the first of which being, i am guilty of needing to be ripped to validate myself). Just wanted to clear that up.

Now, lets look at your trinity of health you've got there.... Let me toss a couple names at you:

1) Stephen hawking.
2) FDR

Were they not complete? If they weren't, I challenge that being "complete" is a virtue. "complete" is just semantics for "well rounded." Well rounded is hardly the definition of success in life. Indeed, many of our most respected leaders, historical figures, etc. failed your criteria.

Also, where do you get the idea that i have never sacrificed in this way. While you and frackmunchie are cruising the archives, why don't you roll back to January of 2000. There you will find a posts of mine talking about the hell i put myself through to cut 100 lbs, down to a ripped 165. Look at where I talk about how to put on 35 lbs of muscle in 18 months. I have been there before, poopy head. I am simply past the point in my life where I am willing to sacrifice career and happiness for one more rep in the gym. But, this does not make me less of a person, it makes me a more "complete" person, which makes me more in line with your virtues described above.

You talk about being "complete" but ridicule me for being "complete." make up your fucking mind.

Also, assface, I just completed a 3 month stretch where i was working 80 hours a week. 80 hours a week building enterprise applications which i KNEW would make or break my young company. I stopped working out. Not because i did not have the time, but because every spare moment of time i could have used in the gym, I needed to sleep in order to avoid the burnout that programmers experience when working extended hours. I won. Now, I am back in the gym. 2 months from now noone will ever know that i took a break. 2 months from now, the gym will still be there. 2 months from now i will still be a success in my business, too. It is all about prioritizing properly.

 

[HighIntensity]

God its good to be goodlooking

 

[vinylgroover]

God its good to be goodlooking

LMAO Kev. Good comedy is all in the timing bro........that was great timing.

 

[Puc]

I guess what I'm trying to say Puc... is that EF is a Fitness site... it has many forums... but the general tone of the Chat board used to be alot different... it didn't used to be comprised of a larger percentage of "non-bodybuilders" -- ya know?

I'm not trying to come down on those who aren't... hell, I aspire to be much better than I am now!!! I mean, if I do mention something about a workout on Chat, I'll always recieve certain snyde comments...

HI is a perfect example... many of his threads are attacked, for no other reason than he is proud of his accomplishments, albeit with a grain of cockyness, but it isn't cocky if you have the goods to back it up...

I didn't mean to be hostile in my post Puc... my intent was to show you why it is exactly there is a difference... I have a respect for Frack right off the bat, if for no other reason than I know he is a bodybuilder... and he puts the same sacrifice I do... we have an understanding... and if 2 individuals didn't have anything else, they'd STILL have that understanding...

This understanding is lacking among many members of the board, hence, a much different environment...

C-ditty

don't worry about hostility. I like disagreement with a little anger sprinkled on. It makes thing more direct.

HI does NOT get flamed for lifting. He gets flamed because he shoots tren for 5 months, test and deca for three months, and then rips people for being smaller than him. He has trouble comprehending that anabolics do help.

He generates the negativity himself. the hatred targeted at him is a result of his actions in prior posts.

 

[Citruscide]

Where the FUCK

I guess you didn't get to my SECOND post... the first one was a little "off-topic", but related to something else entirely...

And, also off topic... FDR? You mean the guy who let Peral Harbor be bombed so he could jump start the economy and enter the war??? Yeah.. .that guy had the deal straight.

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

dude puc I know youre not fat, I just came across that 'i hate fat people who post' by steel beast and remembered how much i hated fat people and that you didnt approve -- damn nigga lol

 

[Puc]

where the fuck did starfish go?

from now on i am going to use the work fuck in every post.

 

[Citruscide]

Who?

Using fuck is good...

C-ditty

 

[supersizeme]

citrus - you jumped the shark back when whatever drama went down with the sexual assault charge. i don't know the details, nor do i want to, but you haven't been the same since, homie. you used to be a laid back mofo, and now you are 10 times quicker to attack people plus you now have this humongous chip on your shoulder when it comes to chicks. you and frack both have that going on. frackalackal is still humorous when he's not acting like an 80 year old man who has been cheated on by 100+ girlfriends. both of you need to hit a bong and fall in love with a honey who rocks your world.

as far as your comment about HI goes...come on. so because of the fact that the guy lifts weights and follows his diet more than a large portion of this board, he's exempt from being called "cocky" and "arrogant" when he comes on the board and talks about how good looking he is and how amazing his physique is? cocky is cocky regardless of whether or not you can back it up. you can't be as old as you are not recognize that. the only reason someone would deny that would be if they themselves carried that much of an ego around. that said, HI cracks me up from time to time and is entertaining.

as far as people not being up to par with your standards of training...how do you know this? how do you know what people are doing in the gym and what they're shoving in their mouths every day? do people start threads saying "Hey guys - I ate one time today(mcdonalds), went to the gym and did a few curls and then went home!" no one does that. if i was to chastise anyone on here for why i think their diet sucks based on their posts, i might point my finger at you. you post up pics of yourself and you're surrounded by ding dongs, potato chips, and beer. sure, it could be written off as your roommates', but do i know that? there's no way you can know whether or not someone is a bb'er by your standards based on what goes on in the chat forum.

yeah, we have some people on here who may not pound 600 grams of protein spread across 9-10 meals per day here. some people here don't do their squats, pullups, or deadlifts. but i'm on this board to laugh, make some other fools laugh in the process, and pick up some things as far as my own personal training goes every now and then. if "mr weekend warrior" cracks me up, i'll take him any day of the week over the pretentious body builder who thinks his shit doesn't stink. he's just not going to be the person i run to for advice in lifting. i know where to go for that.

 

[HighIntensity]

where the fuck did starfish go?

from now on i am going to use the work fuck in every post.

thanks smallsmoveal

 

[Puc]

thanks smallsmoveal

no way dude. i am all about the clean shaven look. makes me think they are younger

 

[Frackal]

LOL at the 80 y/o comment


Yea I used to be more laid back too

Just seemed like there was a different brand of humor back then...and like citrus said some commraderie among a group of warriors so to speak... not like that anymore

 

[Citruscide]

citrus - you jumped the shark back when whatever drama went down with the sexual assault charge. i don't know the details, nor do i want to, but you haven't been the same since, homie. you used to be a laid back mofo, and now you are 10 times quicker to attack people plus you now have this humongous chip on your shoulder when it comes to chicks. you and frack both have that going on. frackalackal is still humorous when he's not acting like an 80 year old man who has been cheated on by 100+ girlfriends. both of you need to hit a bong and fall in love with a honey who rocks your world.

True. I haven't really been the same since... All the infor is in Platinum, I didn't want to clutter up the C&C board with the drama...

I need to work on that chip... I need to work on being the laid-back person that I was... as for my trust of women, or getting back on that bandwagon, I don't see it happening anytime soon... Perhaps with time, sure... anything is possible... but as for now, I'll keep my distance with the "relationship" mumbo-jumbo...

As for the others... I don't know specifically that they DO NOT have the same training techniques, or intensity... but, certain comments would not be made toward me on various posts if these people Understood what it was like to push it like I have...

I'm not knocking, or at least it isin't my intent to, knock these people... I just can tell when certain people have that sacrifice, and others do not...

The point is, many of the "older" members, have that feeling... and whether they like a person or not, there is always that respect there... that respect doesn't exist between alot of the members now...

Thanks for the words SSME... sometimes it helps me to hear things like that.

C-ditty

 

[HighIntensity]

citrus - you jumped the shark back when whatever drama went down with the sexual assault charge. i don't know the details, nor do i want to, but you haven't been the same since, homie. you used to be a laid back mofo, and now you are 10 times quicker to attack people plus you now have this humongous chip on your shoulder when it comes to chicks. you and frack both have that going on. frackalackal is still humorous when he's not acting like an 80 year old man who has been cheated on by 100+ girlfriends. both of you need to hit a bong and fall in love with a honey who rocks your world.

as far as your comment about HI goes...come on. so because of the fact that the guy lifts weights and follows his diet more than a large portion of this board, he's exempt from being called "cocky" and "arrogant" when he comes on the board and talks about how good looking he is and how amazing his physique is? cocky is cocky regardless of whether or not you can back it up. you can't be as old as you are not recognize that. the only reason someone would deny that would be if they themselves carried that much of an ego around. that said, HI cracks me up from time to time and is entertaining.

as far as people not being up to par with your standards of training...how do you know this? how do you know what people are doing in the gym and what they're shoving in their mouths every day? do people start threads saying "Hey guys - I ate one time today(mcdonalds), went to the gym and did a few curls and then went home!" no one does that. if i was to chastise anyone on here for why i think their diet sucks based on their posts, i might point my finger at you. you post up pics of yourself and you're surrounded by ding dongs, potato chips, and beer. sure, it could be written off as your roommates', but do i know that? there's no way you can know whether or not someone is a bb'er by your standards based on what goes on in the chat forum.

yeah, we have some people on here who may not pound 600 grams of protein spread across 9-10 meals per day here. some people here don't do their squats, pullups, or deadlifts. but i'm on this board to laugh, make some other fools laugh in the process, and pick up some things as far as my own personal training goes every now and then. if "mr weekend warrior" cracks me up, i'll take him any day of the week over the pretentious body builder who thinks his shit doesn't stink. he's just not going to be the person i run to for advice in lifting. i know where to go for that.

Ill be crystal clear with you, if I took you through one week of how I train at peak time, youd shit your pants...call the Runner and get picked up 12 minutes into day one, broly.

and thats the honest truth.

 

[supersizeme]

HI - fantastic. and vice versa. Are you gonna take me to hand and motor skills rehab? You have absolutely no knowledge of how I train or what I eat everyday, nor I you. I would never be arrogant enough to say that you're not working hard based on the information I see on the board.
You assume because I do not stick myself and weigh under 200 that I don't work hard. Bah.

Citrust - I would like the return of old, unabrasive Citrus. That's all.

 

[Citruscide]

Citrust - I would like the return of old, unabrasive Citrus. That's all.

There are always room for New Years resolutions...

As for HI, I know when I go to the gym (aka, my battlefeild) it is always insane... I am constantly pushing myself beyond barriers I once thought I never could muster... I have spoken with HI, I know his training matches this... and we are talking about a guy who has a busted up hand, with pins and shit... and is training THROUGH the pain... as it will not inhibit the recovery of his bones... just the PAIN... now THAT is balls out...

C-ditty

 

[HighIntensity]

HI - fantastic. and vice versa. Are you gonna take me to hand and motor skills rehab? You have absolutely no knowledge of how I train or what I eat everyday, nor I you. I would never be arrogant enough to say that you're not working hard based on the information I see on the board.
You assume because I do not stick myself and weigh under 200 that I don't work hard. Bah.

Citrust - I would like the return of old, unabrasive Citrus. That's all.

I am sure your a beast.

honestly I don't mean to fuck with you, your a good guy and in quality shape. Never be ashamed of what you have, its better then 95 percent of America. Enjoy fitness and a well sense of being.

See for me im probley not even as healthy as you, hell odds say ill die alot earlier then you. This is not about fitness, its about freakish size, comic book cuts...its not a world most know.

call it a sickness, obsession call it what you want, but it will never let me quite until it kills me.

love HI

 

[supersizeme]

Alright, in closing I just want to say that I had no idea I could eat an entire box of Lil Debbies and not puke. I do feel bloated though.

I just want to stop the broly on broly hatred. We're all here for the same reason...to win the respect of EF Chris and get into bikinimom's panties("manties" i should say based on recent posts). Seriously...we're both heading in the same direction as far as physique enhancements goes. The only difference is that while you are driving the supercharged vette to get there, I take the slow ass Volvo chock full of airbags.

 

[vinylgroover]

I've been there and done it C-ditty and continue to train with extreme pain as i have done the last few years......but i don't juice, never have. That doesn't mean i'm not balls out when i train and i have no fear in saying that i train harder than many here....juiced or not

The one thing that fucks me off the most here is the notion that if you're not juiced you're not a dedicated or hard trainer.

 

[HS Lifter]

Alright, in closing I just want to say that I had no idea I could eat an entire box of Lil Debbies and not puke. I do feel bloated though.

I just want to stop the broly on broly hatred. We're all here for the same reason...to win the respect of EF Chris and get into bikinimom's panties("manties" i should say based on recent posts). Seriously...we're both heading in the same direction as far as physique enhancements goes. The only difference is that while you are driving the supercharged vette to get there, I take the slow ass Volvo chock full of airbags.

LOL did you not think of the volvo joke when you originally posted? LOL

 

[WODIN]

Only if you will fuck mw

If he wont then I will!!!!

(Old days......)

 

[supersizeme]

heh no HS...part of being "fucking retarded" is that you think of shit to say after you have already said your piece. and i was too slow to edit it, so i now i sit here completely busted in my slowness. and the volvo thing was more of an analogy rather than an attempt to bust a funny. but if it made you chuckle, rock on.

 

[Citruscide]

I've been there and done it C-ditty and continue to train with extreme pain as i have done the last few years......but i don't juice, never have. That doesn't mean i'm not balls out when i train and i have no fear in saying that i train harder than many here....juiced or not

The one thing that fucks me off the most here is the notion that if you're not juiced you're not a dedicated or hard trainer.

Never said that... never would imply that. I trained until I was 25 before engaging in such activities.

But you have to admit VL, it takes a certain amount of dedication to take it ot that level...

On the same token, I get p'd off when people say "Oh, you just got that big because of AS..." -- I train with my life in the gym... there are guys who abuse AS, and they abuse it by not taking full advantage of the benefits...

The truth is, you'll only get so big naturally... and if you can reach your goal that way, then I am 100% in favor of it. I however, don't think I can reach my goal of 280 and jacked without the usage... it doesn't mean I WORK any less hard.

I know you put out the effort VL, I see it in the Training board... Anyone who has read BFold's posts wouldn't rip on a natural bodybuilder for lack of desire...

That being said, it is STILL takes, when done for the right reason, that dedication to take it to the next level...

C-ditty

 

[Frackal]

I've been there and done it C-ditty and continue to train with extreme pain as i have done the last few years......but i don't juice, never have. That doesn't mean i'm not balls out when i train and i have no fear in saying that i train harder than many here....juiced or not

The one thing that fucks me off the most here is the notion that if you're not juiced you're not a dedicated or hard trainer.

There should be no difference in the respect given to a person who trains hard natural and one who trains hard with gear..besides..most of the enhanced pics Ive seen on here were pretty bad

 

[The Ranger]

E2, WCP and myself made the very first post on the Chat Board when it was first introduced....It has changed quite alot since then, with many members, to numerous to mention comming and going...The board is much like life itself...constantly changing....Just gotta change with the times my friends...

For the record...I liked the board back in 1999 and 2000 much better as well.

Ranger

 

[havoc]

I remember.

 

[jesus 2]

j 2 da 2 does not remember.

 

[Bikini Mod]

Just seemed like there was a different brand of humor back then...and like citrus said some commraderie among a group of warriors so to speak... not like that anymore

Interesting observations.

I remember the board back then and yes, liked it much better. Things have changed tremendously and I don't really know why.

I always felt that the C&C board was a place where one should "post at their own risk" LOL but everyone ALWAYS knew how far to take it. When I first was made a mod, in that first year I think I may have requested 3 members be banned. Now it's so damned common that it annoys us even to have to make the request.

I think it boils down to one thing: RESPECT.

Funny how you guys sit here talking about how hard you train to achieve your goals but then don't hesitate to cut down a female who works with equal intensity if not more because she "is a man".... I don't understand that.

Puc, what is this clique and "secret board" you talk of? I also don't know why it would bother you that people call you fat. It isn't like you didn't say that you were fat yourself...

HAVE I EVER CALLED YOU OUT OR MADE A SINGULAR DISRESPECTFUL COMMENT TO YOU?

Have you all noticed an obvious lack of participation on this thread from women? Gee, I wonder why?

There was a time when the C&C board was frequented by mostly bb's who wanted to kick back and have some laughs. Were everyone shared a common bond and 99% gave RESPECT.

We can all sit here and reminisce but those days, I fear are gone for good.

 

[runner]

i think frackal and c-ditty are mistaken in their belief that most of the people here aren't serious about their fitness. i'm sure the population in C&C doesn't even REMOTELY resemble (fitness-wise) the general population at large. (no pun...)

 

[Puc]

Interesting observations.

I remember the board back then and yes, liked it much better. Things have changed tremendously and I don't really know why.

I always felt that the C&C board was a place where one should "post at their own risk" LOL but everyone ALWAYS knew how far to take it. When I first was made a mod, in that first year I think I may have requested 3 members be banned. Now it's so damned common that it annoys us even to have to make the request.

I think it boils down to one thing: RESPECT.

Funny how you guys sit here talking about how hard you train to achieve your goals but then don't hesitate to cut down a female who works with equal intensity if not more because she "is a man".... I don't understand that.

Puc, what is this clique and "secret board" you talk of? I also don't know why it would bother you that people call you fat. It isn't like you didn't say that you were fat yourself...

HAVE I EVER CALLED YOU OUT OR MADE A SINGULAR DISRESPECTFUL COMMENT TO YOU?

Have you all noticed an obvious lack of participation on this thread from women? Gee, I wonder why?

There was a time when the C&C board was frequented by mostly bb's who wanted to kick back and have some laughs. Were everyone shared a common bond and 99% gave RESPECT.

We can all sit here and reminisce but those days, I fear are gone for good.

Ok, you started this.

Being called fat does not bother me. What bothers me is the logical extension made by many that I therefore do nothing but eat Twinkies and jack off (well, the second is true). I have said before on here MANY times that I strive to be utterly honest with myself and others. I have also said that I do workout, and i am in reasonable shape. When I am accused of not being this way, I am being accused of lying.

On to the second point, where you saw respect, I saw ass kissing. I saw blowing sunshine. I saw a clique of people who did nothing more than toss petty havoc-style flames that had no substance. Sailor girl reappearing recently reminded me exactly how fucking annoying that crap was.

Where you see banality now, I see far more honesty. I see less mod ass-kissing and George worshiping. I see something that more resembles reality. Sometimes, i think you have problems with reality.

As far as the secret board goes, truthfully i do not remember which board it was. I do recall vividly some of our renowned post junkies migrating to other boards for this purpose, however. Ask around, I am pretty sure havoc or rotten would remember...

 

[havoc]

hey you, yeah you, over there, pssssssss, hey!, meet me at the secret board in 4 minutes, shhhhhhhhh, ok peace

 

[mylife]

this is one of those threads i wonder what you guys could talk about 4 pages. curiousity eventually gets the best of me and i click it, always to find a dispute off tangent goin on. keep up the good work homos.

 

[Puc]

hey you, yeah you, over there, pssssssss, hey!, meet me at the secret board in 4 minutes, shhhhhhhhh, ok peace

you don't need it anymore. now you have the mod board.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I started what?

I am just trying to understand what your problem is with being called fat.

As for a clique, there is no secret that there is no love lost between Sailor Girl and I so what is your point with that? As a matter of fact there is no love lost between me and a host of members... so?

As for this "secret board" you speak of, many boards have started from elite. The Whole F'in Show had one, MM had one, AF started as a result of people who originally "met" on elite, Rotten's Doghouse, etc and so on. Which one of these was "secret"?

Just because people didn't feel the need to disparage and put people down with INCREDIBLY RUDE remarks does not mean that people weren't honest. Unless somebody uses degrading four-letter words that means that they are not honest?

I see. You cleared that up for me.

I see. Then the reason that MOST who were around then that are still here today enjoyed the boards better because there was more frolicking through the daisies with our clique-y brothas and sistas and ass-kissing whereas today the reason THAT MOST don't like it better is because of all the "honesty". It has NOTHING TO DO WITH RESPECT.

Makes a lot of sense.

 

[Bikini Mod]

hey you, yeah you, over there, pssssssss, hey!, meet me at the secret board in 4 minutes, shhhhhhhhh, ok peace

SHIT! Puc found us out....

Now it's not fun anymore.

 

[Bikini Mod]

I started what?

I am just trying to understand what your problem is with being called fat.

As for a clique, there is no secret that there is no love lost between Sailor Girl and I so what is your point with that? As a matter of fact there is no love lost between me and a host of members... so?

As for this "secret board" you speak of, many boards have started from elite. The Whole F'in Show had one, MM had one, AF started as a result of people who originally "met" on elite, Rotten's Doghouse, etc and so on. Which one of these was "secret"?

Just because people didn't feel the need to disparage and put people down with INCREDIBLY RUDE remarks does not mean that people weren't honest. Unless somebody uses degrading four-letter words that means that they are not honest?

I see. You cleared that up for me.

I see. Then the reason that MOST who were around then that are still here today enjoyed the boards better because there was more frolicking through the daisies with our clique-y brothas and sistas and ass-kissing whereas today the reason THAT MOST don't like it better is because of all the "honesty". It has NOTHING TO DO WITH RESPECT or should I say THE LACK THEREOF.

Makes a lot of sense.

 

[Puc]

I started what?

I am just trying to understand what your problem is with being called fat.

As for a clique, there is no secret that there is no love lost between Sailor Girl and I so what is your point with that? As a matter of fact there is no love lost between me and a host of members... so?

As for this "secret board" you speak of, many boards have started from elite. The Whole F'in Show had one, MM had one, AF started as a result of people who originally "met" on elite, Rotten's Doghouse, etc and so on. Which one of these was "secret"?

Just because people didn't feel the need to disparage and put people down with INCREDIBLY RUDE remarks does not mean that people weren't honest. Unless somebody uses degrading four-letter words that means that they are not honest?

I see. You cleared that up for me.

I see. Then the reason that MOST who were around then that are still here today enjoyed the boards better because there was more frolicking through the daisies with our clique-y brothas and sistas and ass-kissing whereas today the reason THAT MOST don't like it better is because of all the "honesty". It has NOTHING TO DO WITH RESPECT.

Makes a lot of sense.

ok honey... look back a couple of pages here. you introduced the term "secret board," not me. It is/was not my intention to profess that switching to another board was done via some kind of conspiracy. It was more my observation that the cliques here were so strong that people moved in batches.

Also, by now I would hope that you can see that the majority is not always correct and that I have no problem disagreeing with the majority. Do you really think that your last paragraph, which I can paraphrase as "All the COOL KIDS think so!" is undercutting my arguments?

Now, on to my soapbox issue. What the fuck is wrong with four letter words? Being that I am an independent adult, and have never been a child of yours, why do you give a flipping shit if i cuss?

I guarantee I can disrespect you just as well without obscenity. Censoring language is short-sighted and shallow. All it does is obscure issues and feelings. Just like the racists who post bullshit like "why do all blacks like chicken?" I can make the same points with elliptical language.

 

[Bikini Mod]

OK Puc - you are right.

It is really too bad that you have this "outsider" view of things when you are the only person who put yourself there.

Just admit that your problems with me SPECIFICALLY began because I would not tell you every detail of what went on with all that retarded bullshit several months ago. There are people on this board whom I consider close friends and would love to visit if they were more geographically desirable and would not hesitate for a moment to have in MY HOME if they came this way that do not know the specific details of what went on. I, myself, am still waiting for court dates. Most of the board members either figured it out to a large extent on thier own. Many more have gotten bored and long since tired of it. But you, for some unknown reason have had a bug up your butt with me ever since.

What you are forgetting is that I DON'T OWE YOU ANY MORE THAN I EXPECT THAT I HAVE EARNED FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER AND DESERVE NO LESS THAN WHAT I GIVE TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS.

For me, there is no imaginary line between mods and all board members. That line exists in YOUR HEAD ONLY.

Like I said... YOU put yourself on the "outside" no one else did.

And you are not on the "outside" because of your diet/intensity/training WHATEVER. It is because you have become a nasty internet persona. If you like it there, that is cool. It makes no difference to me whether you are fat or not just as I am sure it makes no difference to you whether or not I have a four inch clit. But you seem to keep speaking about this as if you know whether or not I even have a clit!

If you think that constantly berating people with disgusting four letter names, etc is what makes for an environment that is what people LIKE then YOU GO BOY!

Back in the day people with your current attitude would have lasted about 1 day. And you can give me all the freedom of speech rhetoric you like. You know it is the truth.

One does not have to be a foul-mouthed hater to speak truth. One only has to speak about FACTS. The use degrading language only brings us all down.

Yes, please go on about the kettle calling the pot black because I, for one, am known for my "drunken sailor" style of writing LOL. But point out to me a singular circumstance where I relentlessly hounded another as nauseum becuase I was "speaking the truth" or where I didn't admit and humbly apologize when I was wrong?

 

[big4life]

I was soooooo going to ignore this thread, but what the hell.


1) Some of you really need to run out and buy a lottery ticket. I mean if you can look at words on a screen and tell someone's weight and body fat percent, then you have to be one hell of a psycic.

2) This hatred that some of ya'll see directed at body builders is more likely directed at some of these internet personas. Maybe some of you need to look at how you come across on this board.

3) Now this is going to be a wild concept, so some of you might not grasp it, but here it is. Maybe, just maybe, some people come to the CHAT BOARD to have fun. That doesn't mean that they don't work out or lift, it just means they want to relax.

 

[madbomber31]

i got 2 cents to waste...

over the last 3 or 4 years i've watched this board evolve from an information superhighway to pure shit... i once visited the a board CONSTANTLY, i dont do that anymore.. i cannot talk about dbol and liver toxicity or the shutdown of glands anymore.. its fucking boring!!!!

i like to talk about FOOTBALL and play devils advocate... and when i post something people dont agree with they resort to names... it's pathetic...

i used to post about problems with a girlfriend, big deal? people thought everything i said on this board was everything involved in my life, i got flamed for it... by mods none the less.. hence, i have no respect for 70% of the mods on this board.. some have overinflated egos, others are just dick heads who cant be wrong.

i like this board because of these people... different viewpoints... different people to laugh at in my head.

 

[Citruscide]

I was soooooo going to ignore this thread, but what the hell.


1) Some of you really need to run out and buy a lottery ticket. I mean if you can look at words on a screen and tell someone's weight and body fat percent, then you have to be one hell of a psycic.

2) This hatred that some of ya'll see directed at body builders is more likely directed at some of these internet personas. Maybe some of you need to look at how you come across on this board.

3) Now this is going to be a wild concept, so some of you might not grasp it, but here it is. Maybe, just maybe, some people come to the CHAT BOARD to have fun. That doesn't mean that they don't work out or lift, it just means they want to relax.

Yo Bigs, and this goes for runner too... (didn't want to make two posts to say the same thing)

The gig is up... I can't tell bf, size or anything else by looking at your post. What I can tell, is your mentality. I've made posts before and have had people make comments... these comments could only be made by people who just don't understand what it is to "train". I've seen it on HI's threads constantly... even some of Fracks... It's not that I feel people on EF do not workout... I feel that it is a hobby for them, not a lifestyle.

Take for instance PolishHammer or Wizkid... I don't know them very well.. but I know they have a dedication to training and with THAT understanding alone, I have a respect for them. It's that respect that the people of the "old" board used to have... Many now, do not... because they don't do it for the same reasons...

Again, with statements 2 and 3 ... it's about the mentality. What you precieve as a persona or what not, isn't that... it's a way of lie. And as for cocky statements ... read the threads more closely, these comments come out AFTER the snyde comments are made by other members...

Again... I don't think I MENT to imply that people on EF didn't workout, were all fat, or didn't care about their physiques... I'm saying that many just don't do it in the same fashion that a serious lifter would... and I know this, because of the mentality of their posts...

C-ditty

 

[big4life]

Again, with statements 2 and 3 ... it's about the mentality. What you precieve as a persona or what not, isn't that... it's a way of lie. And as for cocky statements ... read the threads more closely, these comments come out AFTER the snyde comments are made by other members...

Again... I don't think I MENT to imply that people on EF didn't workout, were all fat, or didn't care about their physiques... I'm saying that many just don't do it in the same fashion that a serious lifter would... and I know this, because of the mentality of their posts...

C-ditty

So basically you have never once come into a thread with a snide remark? It's always someone else starting trouble?

As for H.I., you don't think that he brings any of this on himself?

 

[Testosterone boy]

I was soooooo going to ignore this thread, but what the hell.


1) Some of you really need to run out and buy a lottery ticket. I mean if you can look at words on a screen and tell someone's weight and body fat percent, then you have to be one hell of a psycic.

2) This hatred that some of ya'll see directed at body builders is more likely directed at some of these internet personas. Maybe some of you need to look at how you come across on this board.

3) Now this is going to be a wild concept, so some of you might not grasp it, but here it is. Maybe, just maybe, some people come to the CHAT BOARD to have fun. That doesn't mean that they don't work out or lift, it just means they want to relax.

This one said it best. Funny that the guys bitchin about getting ripped are the biggest rippers. If you rip, you will get ripped. Simple.

 

[Bullit]

What a trio of whiney pussies.


LMFAO@"sacrifice".

Its not a sacrifice. Whats the scarifice? Time? Money?
Bullshit.
You enjoy liftin so it isnt a sacrifice.
A sacrifice is giving up something you like and doing something you dislike. A sacrifice is working an 80 hour workweek and losing time you could spend with your wife and kids.

Are golfers making a "sacrifice" when they participate in their chosen sport for hours on end? No.
The last couple years I was 100% into mountainbiking. I bought a a super expensive bike, spent most weekends and most weeknights doing it.
I was hardcore. Got all kinds of injuries from it.
Was this a "sacrifice?" No. It was fun. I enjoyed it.
A sacrifice would have been giving it up.

You ain't sacrificed shit ('cept maybe b-mom). Dont try to make it sound like you are valiant warriors giving up so much yet getting nothing in return.
What a crock.

 

[Testosterone boy]

My problem with all out bodybuilding...

I used to have a life. A very good life. My free time alternated between scuba diving, rafting, kayaking, boating, snowmobiling, ATVing, hunting and shooting.

Then I decided to try and get "jacked". I spent a lot of money on it but that isn't the problem. The problem is that I quit doing other things. A major reason for this is that ones muscles are exhausted for a while after a big workout. I went snowmobiling yesterday and my arms felt like spaghetti. It is harder to concentrate on work when one is totally focused on the next workout. How much energy do you have after a monster workout? Not too much unless you are on a lot of gear.

Then I compare the hard core lifters to those with a life outside of the gym. I see humor, personality, brains, and compassion by the guys with other interests. I look at the posts of those who only have one interest. They impress me all right....though not in a good way. Frankly....I wouldn't want to be like them.

I can't tell you how many times I have compared members of a group. The jacked guys demonstrate nothing other than posturing and their simpleton jobs. Wher is that going to get you? Respect at the gym?

You want to be jacked? Terrific. I just think there is a horrible price to pay for that. A price I am no longer willing to pay. Except for Spring Break....I will get jacked for that.

 

[Frackal]

(not very) Bilt...I dont know if that sacrifice thing was from citrus' post but you're missing the point...back then this place was comprised of guys who wanted to get huge...now the tone towards bodybuilding in a hardcore fashion as you can see from your posts and other posts on this thread is more one of disdain, consistent with a more 'general public' audience of members... and T-boy, I have a 3.5-3.8 gpa, my life is generally balanced though in comparison to 'the norm' - lacking in the social department, primarily by choice ...

Back in those days there were more members who BELIEVED in bodybuilding...hard to explain it to most of you....fact is, this used to be a place for bodybuilders to congregate and discuss other issues, there was always a respect and commraderie among us because of our common passion - Now it is a place that everyone found first on a search engine where you get criticized by this collection of part timers... gear has nothing to do with the equation. For example, SSME is natural and I KNOW he trains harder than alot of the half ass juicers around here

 

[Bullit]

(not very) Bilt...I dont know if that sacrifice thing was from citrus' post but you're missing the point...back then this place was comprised of guys who wanted to get huge...now the tone towards bodybuilding in a hardcore fashion as you can see from your posts and other posts on this thread is more one of disdain,

Yes the sacrifice thing was from Citrus' posts.

And no its not disdain. I think its quite rare that anybody puts down any other member if they are talking about personal bests, or arm size, or weight, or any other BB related stat. Its just once the HI's of the board start putting down guys that weigh the less that people start acting disdainful.

I have no inherent disdain at all for hardcore BB's, and in fact I respect (however no more than I admire hardcore downhill mountain bikers, or snowboarders etc..) their dedication and determination. And of course Im somewhat jealous of the poundages they are throwing up, but I'm also jealous of guys making 15 foot drops on their bike.

Basically its not a disdain for hardcore BBing at all... its a 'fuck you' to a couple of posters who really think they are above other posters. Don't misinterpret a "fuck you HI" to mean "I hate BBing."

 

[Testosterone boy]

I'm not sure where to draw the line on what is hard core but this is my experience. Juice/lift a typical guy to 17" arms and he becomes an asshole to many. Full of disdain and criticism to all those "beneath him".

I've been highly involved in other sports and this perspective is unique to the hard core bodybuilders. Basketball players, triathletes, climbers, skiiers etc. don't call those outside their world a bunch of losers, dwarfs, fatties etc.

If the bodybuilders would drop their arrogance, disdain, criticism etc. they would be much better received. What goes around comes around. For example, I have seen HI and C blast the hell out of other guys dozens of times. Fine....but don't come whimpering to the chat board about hurt feelings when it gets turned around.

Besides...I dwarf you....loser.

 

[Bullit]

For example, SSME is natural and I KNOW he trains harder than alot of the half ass juicers around here

But really... so what if they are half ass juicers, or even half ass natties?
If your only criteria by which you judge another persons worth/value is by how hard they hit the iron then you are shortchanging a boatload of great people, and putting a lot more worth on others that arent so deserving.

However I do see your point. I think an analogy would be like skiers posting on a snowboarding board.... sure there are similarities, but there are also differences and you are on the board to talk with like-minded individuals and nobody else.

Until a board requires pics and stats for membership I think you'll be outta luck. And who knows... you might be surprised how many of the EF "unhardcore" might make the cut onto a board like that.

 

[Testosterone boy]

You know what I'd like to see. Hard core juicers hang on the anabolics board. People into training hang out on the training board. People that want to exchange everyday ideas about life, hang out on the chat board.

Maybe I should go the anabolics board and bitch about the lack of chat?

 

[Bullit]

You know what I'd like to see. Hard core juicers hang on the anabolics board. People into training hang out on the training board. People that want to exchange everyday ideas about life, hang out on the chat board.

Maybe I should go the anabolics board and bitch about the lack of chat?

LOL.

I'll go to Training and whine about the absence of Spanish posts.

 

[Citruscide]

I'm not sure where to draw the line on what is hard core but this is my experience. Juice/lift a typical guy to 17" arms and he becomes an asshole to many. Full of disdain and criticism to all those "beneath him".

I've been highly involved in other sports and this perspective is unique to the hard core bodybuilders. Basketball players, triathletes, climbers, skiiers etc. don't call those outside their world a bunch of losers, dwarfs, fatties etc.

If the bodybuilders would drop their arrogance, disdain, criticism etc. they would be much better received. What goes around comes around. For example, I have seen HI and C blast the hell out of other guys dozens of times. Fine....but don't come whimpering to the chat board about hurt feelings when it gets turned around.

Besides...I dwarf you....loser.

First off, unless you are a PRO, I doubt you dwarf me... I weighed in at 245 just yesterday... now, to dwarf me, you should be weighing in at 300 or so...

Second, you and Bilt are completely missing the entire point of this post.

We are saying the board got along better when the general population was comprised of bodybuilders... because there was an understanding that everyone was working toward a common goal... that EVEN IF the people had NOTHING else in common, they had the fact they sacrificed in the gym, they sacrificed in their diet, that they focused on the building of their bodies...

Now, you dont have it. Sure, Big4Life may workout... but from his posts, I can tell he doesn't have that desire, that drive... especially with certain remarks he has made... do I respect him less? Well, I dont have that original respect I'd have for the Ranger's, Frackal's or HI's... so it takes me time to know and understand Biggy...

The point is, when everyone or the majorty were bodybuilders... they would have that mutual respect for each other... RIGHT off the bat... and the blood wouldn't be sour..

Now, much more sour blood... almost a rift.

As for HI... I think that if people knew he as only fucking around half the time, they wouldn't take him half-as serious when he's joking around...

C-ditty

 

[manny78]

I came for the first time in 1997, the board was uggly and moved slowly but so was the whole internet back then. Then things changed, they added some features and forums. But till 2000 I think (I might be wrong) there was only 3 mods: El Cubano, Bizz and Dino strong i think. Now this board has lost part of its identity.

But things can't keep on going this way and this is why we may see a radical change soon.

 

[Puc]

OK Puc - you are right.

It is really too bad that you have this "outsider" view of things when you are the only person who put yourself there.

Just admit that your problems with me SPECIFICALLY began because I would not tell you every detail of what went on with all that retarded bullshit several months ago. There are people on this board whom I consider close friends and would love to visit if they were more geographically desirable and would not hesitate for a moment to have in MY HOME if they came this way that do not know the specific details of what went on. I, myself, am still waiting for court dates. Most of the board members either figured it out to a large extent on thier own. Many more have gotten bored and long since tired of it. But you, for some unknown reason have had a bug up your butt with me ever since.

What you are forgetting is that I DON'T OWE YOU ANY MORE THAN I EXPECT THAT I HAVE EARNED FROM ANY OTHER BOARD MEMBER AND DESERVE NO LESS THAN WHAT I GIVE TO ALL BOARD MEMBERS.

For me, there is no imaginary line between mods and all board members. That line exists in YOUR HEAD ONLY.

Like I said... YOU put yourself on the "outside" no one else did.

And you are not on the "outside" because of your diet/intensity/training WHATEVER. It is because you have become a nasty internet persona. If you like it there, that is cool. It makes no difference to me whether you are fat or not just as I am sure it makes no difference to you whether or not I have a four inch clit. But you seem to keep speaking about this as if you know whether or not I even have a clit!

If you think that constantly berating people with disgusting four letter names, etc is what makes for an environment that is what people LIKE then YOU GO BOY!

Back in the day people with your current attitude would have lasted about 1 day. And you can give me all the freedom of speech rhetoric you like. You know it is the truth.

One does not have to be a foul-mouthed hater to speak truth. One only has to speak about FACTS. The use degrading language only brings us all down.

Yes, please go on about the kettle calling the pot black because I, for one, am known for my "drunken sailor" style of writing LOL. But point out to me a singular circumstance where I relentlessly hounded another as nauseum becuase I was "speaking the truth" or where I didn't admit and humbly apologize when I was wrong?

ok kini... let me toss a fuck you in your direction.

Did my dislike of you begin at that moment? Yes. That part is obvious. I used to believe in you. I used to like you. Is that why i still dislike you? Nope.

The reason I dislike you is that since your marriage started crumbling, you seem to have lost some communication skills. At one time, you seemed to be able to write to others on this board and treat them as adults. Now, I would only assume because your life is dedicated to parenting, you always come off sounding "parental." It is a weird vibe i get from reading your posts. A combination of condescension and arrogance that is identical to how parents act when they are talking to their children. For example, sending me a message saying "Leave me alone" is one thing. "I will not tolerate you disrespecting me!" is entirely another. It is the language someone uses when talking to a subordinate. That annoys the shit out me.

It is the same condescension that pisses me off about kronk. Once he called me a "good kid, and funny too." Here I am thinking to myself, "I am 26, WTF?"

Also, when I argue I try to make things as blunt and harsh as possible. It is the old Patton technique "when i want them to remember, i make it loud and dirty." Don't feel so special, everyone I argue with gets the same treatment. Look at my posts to citrus and frackal earlier on this thread. It is just the way I debate. Politeness always causes me problems, because of the elliptical nature it forces, because my attention span is far to short to keep track of additional points.