Does anyone do short cycles with good results?

[Nighthawkk]

I have heard of people doing 2-4 week cycles consisting of such compounds as fina, winny, prop, var, and clen. My question is... would every day injections of these anabolics actually be worth it it terms of keeping gains post cycle? Has anyone tried this?

 

[KOArtist]

2-4 week var cycle. Is there really any benefit to this???

 

[Nighthawkk]

anyone?

 

[psychedout]

I would never run gear for less than 8 weeks, and up to as many as 12, simple as that.

 

[BigAndy69]

For lean body mass retention not to gain muscle.

I use long cycles: 12-16 weeks for bulking

and short cycles: 3-8 weeks for cutting

 

[papucho]

there's gotta be someone pro short cycles...

 

[silver_shadow]

i wonder how many of the long cycle advocates have actually tried a short cycle. i did my first short cycle a few wks ago. it was a 5 weeker. first 2 wks were 750 mg sus EW, 1 through 5 was test suspension 50mg ED,1 through 4 nandrolone phen prop 150mg EW. ate till my stomach begged for mercy and gained 19lbs in 4.5 wks. last 4 days i was down with flu and lost around 6lbs. got back to the gym and on nolva and creatine for 3 wks gained 2 lbs! no change in bf%. it all depends on what ur goals are. a string of short cycles separated by enough gaps will definitely see good gains which will be kept more easily than the long cycle and IMO some might actually see a net gain in excess of with long cycles.

 

[Nighthawkk]

I think those that oppose shorter cycles have never tried them... Plus there is a bias because obviously you will gain more in a 12-weeker than a 3-4 weeker, but you have to take into consideration the recovery periods and how much mass is actually kept. I would tend to think shorter cycles would not shut you down as hard because of the shorter-acting esters leaving your body quicker, plus post-cycle recovery can be started much sooner.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think those that oppose shorter cycles have never tried them... Plus there is a bias because obviously you will gain more in a 12-weeker than a 3-4 weeker, but you have to take into consideration the recovery periods and how much mass is actually kept. I would tend to think shorter cycles would not shut you down as hard because of the shorter-acting esters leaving your body quicker, plus post-cycle recovery can be started much sooner.

Agreed. All the vehement arguements for long cycles have absolutely no merit other than it's fun being on steroids.

For keepable gains, health, safety, recouperation, and long term benefits, 3 week cycles are the way to go. But, you know...everybody wants to be big yesterday.

 

[rjl296]

i have tried 3 week cycles.
albeit w/ tren, so i was suprresed too hard.
in 3 weeks, i was looking good. and strong. kept most of the strength but little of the mass.

all in all- kept about 3 lbs.
would i do it again, probably don the road, w/ different compounds. ie primo var. never fina again