Does ambien induce Non REM sleep

[ThepoolGuy]

Ambien makes me sleep like a rock. I dont take it regularly but my buddy gave me one the other night and I got knocked the fuck out. Im wondering if you will enter your REM state while on it so your body can recover to the fullest? I dont plan on taking it regularly.

 

[rykertest]

Ambien makes me sleep like a rock. I dont take it regularly but my buddy gave me one the other night and I got knocked the fuck out. Im wondering if you will enter your REM state while on it so your body can recover to the fullest? I dont plan on taking it regularly.

funny you mentioned that because I recently got my hand on some of that stuff and man, let me tell you, I WAS RESTED. I felt so good when I woke up exactly 8 hours after taking it. Not groggy, not sluggish; I just woke up and felt so refreshed. That stuff is truly a wonder drug.

 

[crider]

I woundered the same thing becuase sometimes after really hard events I can't sleep well and having Ambien (even half a pill puts me out) on hand to induce an awsome REM sleep would be a major advantage...

 

[ThepoolGuy]

I swear by it. Since Ive started drinking 1 plus gallons of water a day I wake every morning at 5:30am to take a piss. When I took the ambien that was the first time I slept all the way through without waking up to pee at 5:30am in about 3 months.

 

[crider]

but this is a big deal... We should really try and get an answer the more you sleep in REM sleep the better your body can naturally biuld and recover muscle and energy. anyone have articles or research on this?

 

[Ulter]

No. You do not get a full sleep cycle while using Ambien. That's why you shouldn't use it regularly. That's why people who do use it regularly have blacked out while driving. I blacked out riding a bicycle so I didn't really get hurt. And I'm not talking about being on it and blacking out. This happens during the day.

 

[drrman]

No. You do not get a full sleep cycle while using Ambien. That's why you shouldn't use it regularly. That's why people who do use it regularly have blacked out while driving. I blacked out riding a bicycle so I didn't really get hurt. And I'm not talking about being on it and blacking out. This happens during the day.

there is a lady on trial here in my hometown for burning down 8 very expensive houses, she is claiming she was under the influence of ambien...lol

anyways, i agree with ulter, sleeping pills are something you should try and stay away from if at all possible. I have a few xanax on hand and will take a 1/4 once in a blue moon if im having temp anxiety or just flat out can't slow my mind down to rest.

but don't become someone dependent on using drugs to go to sleep. I did it with G years ago and ended up with a horrible addiction. I had to have it to stay awake and have it to go to sleep(varying dosages). just let your body sleep naturally bro!

 

[Ulter]

There is a study up in Canada where they went through the highway traffic records. They found over 100 people who had blacked out on the highway as a result of using Ambien, although they didn't say that. They had not taken ambien when they blacked out but had been using it regularly.

 

[T-Matt]

There is a study up in Canada where they went through the highway traffic records. They found over 100 people who had blacked out on the highway as a result of using Ambien, although they didn't say that. They had not taken ambien when they blacked out but had been using it regularly.

That's why I prefer to use Oxycalm and P7 as my daily presleep routine.. The combination is very effective AND they're good for your body..



T-Matt

 

[hanibal]

i have no idea other than ambien is highly addictive. i know a pharmacist who was fired for stealing ambien from a few pharmacies he was working at more than once. has been in rehab too twice and may have lost his pharmacy license. also a guy i work w/ is crazy addicted, but he is just abusive, drinks w/ it and fights the urge to sleep just so he can feel fucked up. also eminem was just in rehab.
- i don't think it induces REM, just makes u sleep. not worth it IMO. all those who use it no prob, see what happens when they try to just stop for good...
oh yeah my 80yr old gramdmother too cannot sleep without now. i guess her body is also addicted.

 

[T-Matt]

there is a lady on trial here in my hometown for burning down 8 very expensive houses, she is claiming she was under the influence of ambien...lol

anyways, i agree with ulter, sleeping pills are something you should try and stay away from if at all possible. I have a few xanax on hand and will take a 1/4 once in a blue moon if im having temp anxiety or just flat out can't slow my mind down to rest.

but don't become someone dependent on using drugs to go to sleep. I did it with G years ago and ended up with a horrible addiction. I had to have it to stay awake and have it to go to sleep(varying dosages). just let your body sleep naturally bro!

Yeah, I tried G this weekend and I was reminded why that drug is illegal. It is very addictive.. I could feel myself going into a g hole, scary stuff! Scary scary stuff..

I used to have to take Tylenol PM while I was running tren; I was pretty addicted to those for a while..

I swear, I am almost addicted to Cialis.. Pretty soon I'll think myself into not being able to get a hard on if I don't have any Cialis running through my veins..

You definitely want to take sleeping drugs in moderation and only when you feel it's absolutely necessary.. A buddy of mine blacked out on his Gixxer 600 and is lucky to be alive to this day. Of course, while he was on Ambien he did an 8 ball of coke the day before..

T-Matt

 

[justinjones1963]

No. You do not get a full sleep cycle while using Ambien. That's why you shouldn't use it regularly. That's why people who do use it regularly have blacked out while driving. I blacked out riding a bicycle so I didn't really get hurt. And I'm not talking about being on it and blacking out. This happens during the day.

Bob and Sherri (two radio talk show hosts) had a segment on Ambien. One girl called in and would take it before bed. She didn't go to bed directly afterwards though - she would "black out", walk around talking to her husband, have sex with him, go get something to eat and not remember anything the next day.

She said he husband didn't mind the side effects though.


I always have a script on hand, especially during finals because something kicks in with me during that time and I cannot for the life of me get to bed at a decent hour and after two weeks of 3-4 hours of sleep I burn out. Hitting ambien the night before a final at around 9 p.m. knocks me out and I can get a decent 8 hours of sleep and feel totally refreshed the next day. The bottle of 30 pills I have has lasted for a year. Moderation is the key.

Ambien is just like any drug we use - if we abuse it problems will come. If someone has severe insomnia the solution is not just a pill - they need to get a sleep study done to see what the problem is. We have one guy in class who has insomnia and his doc told him to stop drinking coffee in the evening lol

 

[solidspine]

Check their website out.

 

[black sheep]

I have a lot less of the wierd trippy sides by taking Ambien CR.

 

[justinjones1963]

The first time I took it I was reading and just getting ready for bed and I looked at the curtains by the wondow and it looked like they were moving. I went back to reading and the text seemed to move lol A few monutes later I hit the rack and slept like a sack of rocks.

I have not had that extreme of an effect since but it still knocks me out.

 

[bilter]

I took one once when I got home from work at 5:00pm. I thought I was taking another script I had. I fought it for 3 hours, stayed up doing different things. Not sure I was awake because I was forgetting what I did right as I finsihed doing it.

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

If I'm not mistaken, both trazodone and gabapentin are known to not radically alter normal sleep architecture. There are anecdotal reports of gabapentin withdrawl symptoms with abrupt cessation, though it doesn't cause a 'high'.

 

[GymIntensity]

No. You do not get a full sleep cycle while using Ambien. That's why you shouldn't use it regularly. That's why people who do use it regularly have blacked out while driving. I blacked out riding a bicycle so I didn't really get hurt. And I'm not talking about being on it and blacking out. This happens during the day.

Finally you posted this ulter. I hate prescription meds and think they waste away muscle and are useless, but that is just my opinion, and that might partially be because I can go to sleep at a rock concert if im tired enough. If I cant go to sleep, it means I dont need and haven't been up long since I last slept. I guess I am one of the lucky ones that can go to sleep easily, because so many other bros have problems with it. But my lifting partner lives on this ambien shit, he is always sleeping, lazy, not feeling like doing anything, sometimes not even working out. I just dont see how that stuff can be of any benefit whatsoever, especially to a bodybuilder.

 

[ThepoolGuy]

Ive only taken it once. I took one pill at 1:00am in the morning and at 1:20am I stood up to go to bed and I fell into the wall I was so loopy. I wont ever take it on a regular basis.

 

[OMEGA]

Ambien was def evil stuff.

you sleep but you dont "really" sleep

its wierd and catches up to you

 

[mr_black]

Ambien was def evil stuff.

you sleep but you dont "really" sleep

its wierd and catches up to you

I've been taking Ambien from a friend in india for over a year. Granted i"m up to 30mg per night but I still sleep well and feel some what rested. I have a sleep apnea rating of 64.6 which means I stop breathing about once a minute due to obstructive apnea. This deprevives me of oxygen (levels reach 75 or so) durig my sleep study. Should be 100 or so. This is why I'm still groggy throughout the day. The ambien at leat lest me sleep through this crap and I get rest and some freaky dreams. My 2 cents as I've been on for 1 year.

 

[immortalis]

I've been on ambien for approx 2 months now.

I have always had problems sleeping, and I have a terrible lower back issue (not going to explain it again... too long of a post, but its hella jacked up). Those two issues account for MANY restless nights per week.

At my previous position I worked 6am-3pm. However 3 months ago I accepted a promotion and now I work nights. So that threw my sleep schedule completely out of whack. I went to the doctor specifically to get an ambien script. I had taken them a few times here and there before, and they always worked well. I had tried Sonata previously, however it was ineffective. So the doctor had no problems scripting me out some ambien.

Most times when I take it, I definitely feel loopy not too long afterwards. If I take it on the couch, and I get up to piss before I go to sleep or if I get up to go to the bed... my legs are wobbly. Sometimes tho, they dont do ANYTHING to me. Its weird. This morning I took one when I got in from work at 9am. I didnt fall asleep till 2pm or shortly after. Other times, they will put me down but within 2 to 3 hours after Im wide awake again.

I dont ever feel groggy after taking one which I love. I work in a highly technical position and need to be able to focus on detail. Ive been thinking about trying AmbienCR to combat the 2-3 hour then waking up issue, but well see.

I have heard from many people that taking 2 ambien and staying up actually makes them hallucinate. I took 1 last week, and it didnt put me down. About an hour and a half later I said fuckit and I ate another... I almost got sick to my stomach, and my eyes started acting crazy. I laid down to keep from throwing up and ended up passin out. Lesson learned lol.

I dont have nearly as vivid dreams on ambien tho as I do in comparison to Nyquil or even TylenolPM.

If I had my choice tho, I'd just take a xanax every night

 

[Jacob Creutzfeldt]

Is there a reliable body of evidence regarding how THC effects sleep architecture?

 

[GymIntensity]

I've been on ambien for approx 2 months now.

I have always had problems sleeping, and I have a terrible lower back issue (not going to explain it again... too long of a post, but its hella jacked up). Those two issues account for MANY restless nights per week.

At my previous position I worked 6am-3pm. However 3 months ago I accepted a promotion and now I work nights. So that threw my sleep schedule completely out of whack. I went to the doctor specifically to get an ambien script. I had taken them a few times here and there before, and they always worked well. I had tried Sonata previously, however it was ineffective. So the doctor had no problems scripting me out some ambien.

Most times when I take it, I definitely feel loopy not too long afterwards. If I take it on the couch, and I get up to piss before I go to sleep or if I get up to go to the bed... my legs are wobbly. Sometimes tho, they dont do ANYTHING to me. Its weird. This morning I took one when I got in from work at 9am. I didnt fall asleep till 2pm or shortly after. Other times, they will put me down but within 2 to 3 hours after Im wide awake again.

I dont ever feel groggy after taking one which I love. I work in a highly technical position and need to be able to focus on detail. Ive been thinking about trying AmbienCR to combat the 2-3 hour then waking up issue, but well see.

I have heard from many people that taking 2 ambien and staying up actually makes them hallucinate. I took 1 last week, and it didnt put me down. About an hour and a half later I said fuckit and I ate another... I almost got sick to my stomach, and my eyes started acting crazy. I laid down to keep from throwing up and ended up passin out. Lesson learned lol.

I dont have nearly as vivid dreams on ambien tho as I do in comparison to Nyquil or even TylenolPM.

If I had my choice tho, I'd just take a xanax every night

one of my good bros complains about the exact same thing. doc got him some ambien and says it knocks him out but then he wakes up a few hours later. I honestly think it is wearing him out and making him feel even worse. I'm completey against script sleep meds but thats easy to say because I can fall asleep instantly when im tired of course.

 

[petalpusher]

I get psychologically addicted to Ambien. The stuff knocks me out like nothing else. I swear it gives you weird gastrointestinal problems if you use it too frequently.

 

[immortalis]

Is there a reliable body of evidence regarding how THC effects sleep architecture?

I dunno but I smoke every night before/after dinner and before bed

 

[njmuscleguy]

funny, to me, ambien is one of the mildest sleep-aids there is... side effects as well as performance... I can take them like tic-tacs, so I make sure that I don't....been taking them for years, on and off... they've lost their potency... I have 3-4 scrips of sleep-aids, as well as various benzo's.... I rotate them as to not become dependant on any one.... sounds pretty bad, but it's either that or I never sleep

 

[Cutt29]

No. You do not get a full sleep cycle while using Ambien. That's why you shouldn't use it regularly. That's why people who do use it regularly have blacked out while driving. I blacked out riding a bicycle so I didn't really get hurt. And I'm not talking about being on it and blacking out. This happens during the day.

Do all script sleep aids interfere with REM sleep?

 

[Cutt29]

bump for ulter, mac, or anyone else that reads medical literature all day long

 

[Ulter]

Do all script sleep aids interfere with REM sleep?

Yes. That's why you're better off using something else that makes you sleepy. Like Atarax. It's an antihistimine but it is also used to relax people prior to surgery. It's a little hard to get up the first morning you use it but you adapt to it in a couple days. It will keep you asleep and even if you do wake up you'll be able to crash again in minutes.

 

[Cutt29]

Yes. That's why you're better off using something else that makes you sleepy. Like Atarax. It's an antihistimine but it is also used to relax people prior to surgery. It's a little hard to get up the first morning you use it but you adapt to it in a couple days. It will keep you asleep and even if you do wake up you'll be able to crash again in minutes.

do i need a script to get atarax?

 

[Cutt29]

do i need a script to get atarax?

nevermind found the answer

 

[markshark]

Ambien makes me sleep like a rock. I dont take it regularly but my buddy gave me one the other night and I got knocked the fuck out. Im wondering if you will enter your REM state while on it so your body can recover to the fullest? I dont plan on taking it regularly.

no it fucks the cycle up. i used to take it regularly and eventually my body would become so exhausted even when i did sleep that i couldnt leave my apartment

 

[beachstud]

Yeah, I tried G this weekend and I was reminded why that drug is illegal. It is very addictive.. I could feel myself going into a g hole, scary stuff! Scary scary stuff..

I used to have to take Tylenol PM while I was running tren; I was pretty addicted to those for a while..

I swear, I am almost addicted to Cialis.. Pretty soon I'll think myself into not being able to get a hard on if I don't have any Cialis running through my veins..

You definitely want to take sleeping drugs in moderation and only when you feel it's absolutely necessary.. A buddy of mine blacked out on his Gixxer 600 and is lucky to be alive to this day. Of course, while he was on Ambien he did an 8 ball of coke the day before..

T-Matt

T-Matt you crack me the fuck up.

 

[sweatandscience]

I remember reading recently that regerneration of muscle tissue is temporarily suspended during the REM portion of your sleep cycle, and that damaged muscle tissue is repaired during some other stages of sleep.

Can anyone comment on this?