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Do you have an obsessive personality?
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walliwalibus
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Yes.
yo my brother from another mother .. what i tell ya bout vt?
I was just thinking about that... shit I'm never going against the Cane... should've asked you bout whether I should stay in or go out...
I have yet to see u go wrong...
Do you go by probability and feel or just mainly feel?
Blackshirts -cornhuskers- suck...
I'm looking forward to my home state punishing them next week...
Define "obsessive"
A little bit, you have, but I think you keep your self moderated...
I think by obsessive he means in exuberant proportions, or lacking restraint, kinda driven by that feeling of lack...
Actually all 2 definitions contribute to obsessive in an interrelated fashion...
Good to see ya btw...
I went out, but should have stayed in...
they stink .. they were undefeated cause they played all srub teams before they played vt
do you think obsession is a state of mind or a physical manifestation of an emotional desire?
Do you think moderation and obsession can co-exist?
Moderately obsessive is an oxymoron me thinks.
I hear ya loud and clear...
When I say balance, I mean like its not necessarily more or less, but more of the end of grasping, a quieting of the running mind, Kind of like when I say silence I don't mean the absence of noise, but more of like an inner peace.
So even moderation in the sense of less than obsessive, or more than the minimum, I guess if we are talking quanitity will lead to obsession... moderation I think would mean a certain forced restraint...
So to answer your question no i don't think even moderation is the answer, but more of a total change, but this can only be done by opening the heart, which quiets the mind... as long as the heart is closed and you aren't accepting the present, you will always be prone to obsession or grasping... I'm currently grasping, and this I know...
Last thing when we say state of mind, or physical, those are categories that are all mental... really its all a state of mind.
These are words that indicate the map though, in reality, I'm kinda unfamiliar with the territiory. In other words I often confuse the map for the actual territory.
Technically bro, silence is the absence of sound NOT noise
Noise is considered in that context distractions from a set goal or an ultimate purpose IMO, sound is just the absence of silence or the state of being quite. Now I'm digressing
So yuo believe that you can control the heart without the mind,i.e. "opening the heart to quite the mind"
I believe the heart and mind must co-exist in an almost perfect harmony or neither will be effective on its own...the heart needs the mid for all forms of rational and logical thinking and the mind needs the heart for all that requires faith and imagination. I think it's quite an elaborate piece of work, kind of the perfect harmony. Don't you think?
I could not agree more, and yeah I meant sound.. good eye and ear, Traz, yeah alot of peeps would say that your take is where the male/female uniting the heart and mind, time and space, logic creativity... well is the nature of the universe...Technically bro, silence is the absence of sound NOT noise
Noise is considered in that context distractions from a set goal or an ultimate purpose IMO, sound is just the absence of silence or the state of being quite. Now I'm digressing
So yuo believe that you can control the heart without the mind,i.e. "opening the heart to quite the mind"
I believe the heart and mind must co-exist in an almost perfect harmony or neither will be effective on its own...the heart needs the mid for all forms of rational and logical thinking and the mind needs the heart for all that requires faith and imagination. I think it's quite an elaborate piece of work, kind of the perfect harmony. Don't you think?
So yeah I would totally agree.
Hooowwwaaaaa!
Beachboy6294
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I'm not at all and sometimes wish I was.
Beachboy6294
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What's up broheim?
Nadda just finished packing my bags to go offshore for at least 3weeks. I'm going take my daughters out to eat tonight before I leave.
Beachboy6294
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I do some things like that too but I wouldn't say I'm obsessive
Not obsessive, how bout the saints and karma bookie, and trust me, the decision to throw down and engage in battle is passion and a bit of obsession, so I would have to say you got some, moreover, think how hard it was to stop going out, that's a little obsession... you got some bro... you do trust me.
Beachboy6294
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I guess I have some but it's not hard for me to stop going out when I have a reason. I haven't been out in over 3 months now.
layinback
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i understand that obsession is counter to balance and harmony but i believe there is a paradox in the equation.
historically, it is the passionate ( read obsessive ) people who make conversions. true change is brought about
by dissatisfaction. the fat and happy folk seem content to live in a low grade misery, while the truly fucked up
people are firmly faced with the proposition to change or to adopt a denial state and plod on to a miserable
end.
historically, it is the passionate ( read obsessive ) people who make conversions. true change is brought about
by dissatisfaction. the fat and happy folk seem content to live in a low grade misery, while the truly fucked up
people are firmly faced with the proposition to change or to adopt a denial state and plod on to a miserable
end.
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I do not have an obsessive/addictive personality. But I am very passionate and extremely driven once I have been challenged. I suppose my *positive* or *negative* behavior is defined or guided by the motivation ie what challenge I have set before myself?
layinback
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i'm driven and passionate too but obsession is a notch higher.
i've been obsessed with making money, porsches, sex, certain women, and
watches.
as a kid i was obsessed with certain rock bands, most women under 200 lb's,
coin collecting, martial arts and street fighting.
each decade has brought with it another obsession or two.
layinback
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me too and i have to say, in that respect, obsession has worked in my favor.
i have achieved many goals in the last 20 years. when i set my sights on
something...............it'll happen.
I'm the same way, but now its getting my grad stuff published. lol
I hear ya and agree, however I don't equate harmony with laziness or settling, but rather just present and focused. I think focus would be a key attribute found your philosophy that you have embodied with success.
layinback
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and how ironic lol!!! i was diagnosed with MBD when i was 6. MBD ( minimal brain
dysfunction) was the previous generations term for what is now called ADHD.
attention deficit is really a misnomer. peeps with ADD\ADHD are hyper-focused,
unfortunately it is usually on the wrong thing lol. i've learned to make my ADD
work for me. i still don't do detail work but i have several people on the payroll
who are very detail oriented.
i have no use for lazy people or for people who "settle."
javaguru
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My best friend's daughter is ADHD and she is a very smart terror. She's much better as a teen as opposed to when she was six...imagine that! I love to sit with her and engage her in circular arguments.
She just needs her "talent" focused properly.
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WhistleBritchesII
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The biggest part of my personality I fear is how Dark I can get
I have never met anyone with a similar trait then me itsthe Depth of it too.............that why I know there truly is a Dark Side
Like in StarWars............
I have never met anyone with a similar trait then me itsthe Depth of it too.............that why I know there truly is a Dark Side
Like in StarWars............
layinback
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My best friend's daughter is ADHD and she is a very smart terror. She's much better as a teen as opposed to when she was six...imagine that! I love to sit with her and engage her in circular arguments.
make sure that her mom reads, DRIVEN TO DISTRACTION. it's an excellent
read on the subject. the real issue with ADHD is the effect that it can have
on self-esteem. the sooner she develops coping skills, the better.
( as i typed this i thought about my 7 year olds homework, recapped my
workout and began contemplating a visit to the mercedes dealership
to checkout the new SL600 ) my life is like an out of control TV remote
controller.
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walliwalibus
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I think the chemistry of the obsessive personality can co-exsist within everyone without them even knowing its there. It happens everyday. For if we really look into ourselves that far we would find everyone here has some form of it. We are all here, right? So if we even take things a bit deeper into the realm of the brain where this nasty like beotch of a pain is, we would find brain matter that somehow, probably is releasing some sort of energy to the wrong receptors and we get misguided info from the brain thus leading us into what we know as Obsessive behavior. Therefore, there probably is a medication that helps this. But, if the meds help this, there is always a catch. What are the side effects of such a med. I dunno, could be a lot of things. Probably one would be the "who gives a sheet" attitude. Maybe laziness.... so, so far we have seen this behavior, diagnosed it, and treated it. Now to deal with the side effects. So we are lazy lets say, just as a side effect. We get some meds that kinda take that away and make us happy and on the go. But that put electrical pulses back in the area we didn't want them in. Now we are acting very unstable. Going from Obsessive to lazy as all sheet and back to obsessive. Well sheet, now where on a legal speedball of psychological medications that sends us into depression. So, now what do we do? Do we treat the ups and downs with the obsessive behavior, or treat the depression? A or B? So, while we wait for a direction, we get so depressed that now we have become compulsive. So can we say now we have obsessive/compulsive behavior, with serious depression that is at the moment going untreated. What do they do? Why, they push more drugs that treat such things, and they unload it like a week of saved semen blasting out. Just say here, go get these and take them. So we stuff our face with these drugs, and well.... now we are getting a little strange. Some good days, some bad. It depends on the meds and how they take effect and if they agree with your body. Say they don't. And you have three weeks of hell because you can't get into the DR. office. So now depression is way worse than it was before, you lose track of sheet, and your being obsessive at the same time. What do you do then...... ah you find what is known in the medical field as (censored). You poot forth spark to this strange looking cigarette and inhale.......... then you start looking for your keys for 5 hours til you realize they were in your pocket all along.
The End.
The End.
layinback
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believe me, we are all a little hitler and a little mother theresa. the majority of
people live their lives in a quasi state of denial and they would never admit
their more objectionable character flaws. we all have 'em, it's just that most
shove them deep deep inside and would never speak of it.
my analyst said that if you've never thought about killing your spouse, you've
never been in love. 100% TRUE!
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Humble Pride
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Excellent advice - I too have lived with severe ADHD my whole life.
The book that goes along with Driven to Distraction is the follow-up "Delivered From Distraction" (EXCELLENT read/same Author)
walliwalibus
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Javaguru, do you not agree with Marlon Brando..... he did that part on the spot, made up as he went. They couldn't control him and he kept changing everything. That's the dark part. WTF was he thinking to actually reach that? At that time I think he was losing it. There were lots of problems making that movie.... this is the best example, but it came out like it should, and I think its perfect.
javaguru
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layinback
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wow thanx!!! i had no idea that there was a 2nd book. i'll pick that up next week.
javaguru
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My friends get pissed at times because I'm too "dark" in my media choices. Yes, I'm Mr. Downer at times...
walliwalibus
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Welcome to the club.... or I am noob here so I am in the club. Anyway, yeah its strange, but we both must admit that it plays to our advantage sometimes LOL in some ways. That whole movie was dark.... characters were dark, mood, the whole nine yards. Strange this movie doesn't top some people's list as a top ten. They could never reach this magnatude in movies nowadays. Never will we ever see a new movie made like this.
javaguru
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Brando was an acting genius!
layinback
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he spoke 7 languages.
he said he loved acting because it afforded him the best analyst lol!
pacino, deniro and a host of others modeled themselves after brando.
the only guy who comes close is robert duval. notice that their method
is very similar.
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layinback
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Notice that Duval and Brando were in the same movie...
on several occasions lol. apocalypse and godfather they were INCREDIBLE!!!
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WhistleBritchesII
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WB - I am your father.
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I dunno... I think that we are just using different words to describe way might be the same feelings.
When I think obsessive I think alcoholic/drug addict (I know thaat you've had issues with both). I'm not like that. I mean, I had issues w/body image and eating disorders. First it was trying to be as small as humanly possible to be reflective of my lack of self esteem and punishing myself and a warped sense of trying to control the only thing I could control. Ironically enough the more ill I became with GI issues (nature did that. I didn't accidentally to that to myself) the more I wanted to be bigger and more muscular because I enjoyed the fact that it intimidated men - ESPECIALLY my exhusband.
Dunno... since I can just stop drinking or gambling and can certainly live without controlled substances I guess I don't characterize myself that way.
All I know is that once I set a challenge before myself no matter how far-fetched or ridiculous it seems to others... matter of fact the more others laugh at me and put me down, say that it can't be done, the harder I work just to prove them wrong. I LOVE to make nay-sayers eat crow.
I can listen to the same song over and over and over again, literally for YEARS but I don't think that makes me obsessive. I just really dig that song. LOL
Dunno...
All I know is that when I decide that something is going to be a certain way there is nothing and I mean nothing that will keep me from making my words reality. I have always been that way since I was old enough to remember.
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That is not some obscure observation. There can be no light if there is no darkness.
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LOL
You've just described me and my Old Grump. I think that you just nailed our lives to a T.
I remember back in the day when I was at my lowest (when I first lost my girls this last time) my night terrors were out of control in that I began to have hallucinations during the day. I slept very little, hardly ate, started having panic attacks in my sleep... goodness. Looking back I don't know how I survived. I went to get some professional help and the doc perscribed a drug to help me sleep (can't recall the name but in hyuger doses it is given to schizophrenics to "quiet their minds") and also an anti-depressant/anti-anxiety med. As soon as the drugs took effect I felt like I was literally in slow motion. Was very disconcerting at first, like something from The Matrix.
I was like, "Is this how slowly EVERYONE moves?"
No thank you....
I prefer to race at the speed of light.
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layinback
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I dunno... I think that we are just using different words to describe way might be the same feelings.
When I think obsessive I think alcoholic/drug addict (I know thaat you've had issues with both). I'm not like that. I mean, I had issues w/body image and eating disorders. First it was trying to be as small as humanly possible to be reflective of my lack of self esteem and punishing myself and a warped sense of trying to control the only thing I could control. Ironically enough the more ill I became with GI issues (nature did that. I didn't accidentally to that to myself) the more I wanted to be bigger and more muscular because I enjoyed the fact that it intimidated men - ESPECIALLY my exhusband.
Dunno... since I can just stop drinking or gambling and can certainly live without controlled substances I guess I don't characterize myself that way.
All I know is that once I set a challenge before myself no matter how far-fetched or ridiculous it seems to others... matter of fact the more others laugh at me and put me down, say that it can't be done, the harder I work just to prove them wrong. I LOVE to make nay-sayers eat crow.
I can listen to the same song over and over and over again, literally for YEARS but I don't think that makes me obsessive. I just really dig that song. LOL
Dunno...
All I know is that when I decide that something is going to be a certain way there is nothing and I mean nothing that will keep me from making my words reality. I have always been that way since I was old enough to remember.
i believe you are a lil obsessive
according to psychoanalytic theory, it was probably OCD that saved the both of us. OCD sorta trumps other psychological maladies and gives a semblance of
order to an otherwise out of control life \ situation.
kathy is bipolar but her OCD has helped her to all but defeat her BP.
walliwalibus
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Aren't we all to a degree?
layinback
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of course but some more than others.
obsession in the vernacular and obsession in psychology lexicon are
two different animals.
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i believe you are a lil obsessive
according to psychoanalytic theory, it was probably OCD that saved the both of us. OCD sorta trumps other psychological maladies and gives a semblance of
order to an otherwise out of control life \ situation.
kathy is bipolar but her OCD has helped her to all but defeat her BP.
LOL See I always thought the whole OCD thing was attributed to those with tendencies to gamble, do drugs, drink and do things like that with the notion or feeling that "they can't stop" whereas me, I don't WANT to stop whatever it is that captures my attention for that moment... why should I?
And yes, it was seroquel.
Believe it or not, bout 6 mos to a year after I started sleeping w/Dale - I had no more night terrors. And I can't remember the last time I had trouble falling asleep at night. Now I still get up early (6ish or so regardless of when I go to sleep) but I am out the minute my head hits the pillow.
No drugs! This after 20+ years of SEVERE sleep problems.
Weaning off the seroquel and anti-depressant/anti-anxiety med was AWFUL as I felt for a good 2 weeks - month that I would have short circuits in my brain. It bordered on painfull, but certainly unsettling. Absolutely HATED IT and would never go back.
I've never had any sort of mood disorder thank goodness. LOL I don't think I could handle life the way I have if I DID have that problem. I mean, yes I have been severely depressed but that was not an organic issue. It had everything to do with circumstances of my life that I had very little control over. Talk about trying like a motherfucker to change or overcome those circumstances... those circumstances have gotten worse and yet, I am still prospering to a great extent and have finally made the decision to move on and be happy IN SPITE of them.
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UA_Iron
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I have an obsession. Nearly every electronic device in my house has been hacked.
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