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i was just wondering about this...not that i was considering it though. but for bulking women, dont u worry about getting all....u know....big and stuff? or does that not happen so much?
do women bulk??
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That's a misconception about weight lifting for women. We don't all of a sudden grow huge, bulging muscles over night ... not even after years of training. Some women are more genetically inclined, though. Elevated testosterone help women bulk up slightly, but most of us only have traces of it. Muscles on women actually look great. Not only is it a sign of overall strength, it is also aesthetically appealing.
But no, I don't worry about it
But no, I don't worry about it
personally, i think women do 'bulk' but not in the same way guys do. I have experimented and done an eight week low-cardio, higher (VERY clean carb) upped calorie diet coupled with intensive targetted weight training to build muscle followed by and 8 week 'cut' cycle to lower BF through more advanced cardio and lower carb/calorie dieting. this has been a pretty effective way for me to make the kind of gains i want (building bis, tris, and back specifically) and then cutting the fat off my body afterwords. This may be fairly unique to my metabolism etc etc, but during the cycles when i reduce cardio (4x a week 20 minutes) and ramp up cals + weights, i feel my muscles naturally get bigger and harder and my weight tends to plateau or increase. the cutting cyle then trims off the bf i put on throught the extra cals (lots of dietary experimentation is necc) + stacking ECA, yohimbine+cardio. works for me, but everyone is different.
I can't say it's totally false, because some women (like me) put on muscle rather easily, and a woman's lower body strength is generally equal to that of a man. Having said that, however, I will add the following...
1) 99% of women in the gym train with no intensity, whatsoever. You have to actually lift some weight and challenge yourself consistently over time. People look at me strangely because I actually close my eyes and grit my teeth when I'm pushing out my last few reps. Are you doing that?
2) Muscles swell (especially legs) after a hard training session. Many women stop at this point, when their favorite pants might be a little tight for 24 hours, and proclaim "oh my god, I'm BULKING!!!
3) Guess what? You have to actually change your diet, too. A lot of women keep eating their junky carbs and blame the weights instead.
4) Women are addicted to the scale. I'll assume you know muscle weighs more than fat but TAKES UP LESS SPACE.
Bottom lie - This is a woman's most convenient excuse not to exercise, and they refuse to get their heads out of the sand.
1) 99% of women in the gym train with no intensity, whatsoever. You have to actually lift some weight and challenge yourself consistently over time. People look at me strangely because I actually close my eyes and grit my teeth when I'm pushing out my last few reps. Are you doing that?
2) Muscles swell (especially legs) after a hard training session. Many women stop at this point, when their favorite pants might be a little tight for 24 hours, and proclaim "oh my god, I'm BULKING!!!
3) Guess what? You have to actually change your diet, too. A lot of women keep eating their junky carbs and blame the weights instead.
4) Women are addicted to the scale. I'll assume you know muscle weighs more than fat but TAKES UP LESS SPACE.
Bottom lie - This is a woman's most convenient excuse not to exercise, and they refuse to get their heads out of the sand.
O.K...let's say it's 80% of a male's strength. If you combine that with the fact that women generally tend to store bodyfat there, as well (as opposed to a man storing fat in the abdominal area), you have the potential for a large size increase - one that may not be desired.
I guess someone should define "bulking". This term is almost as meaningless as "toning" Why would anyone train with weights if they didn't want to add muscle? What's the point?
I guess someone should define "bulking". This term is almost as meaningless as "toning" Why would anyone train with weights if they didn't want to add muscle? What's the point?
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Bulking is a term used as an excuse to get fat....sure you may put on a few extra lbs in your off season but not like Lee priest.......not out of control sloppy!
If I had a dime for every woman that used the "my ass and legs will be bigger than they are if I lift" excuse, I'd be rich. As I tell my female clients, loss the fat and replace it with muscle or just learn to live with a bigger but shapely ass. Sure not lifting will keep your legs and ass smaller, but legs and an ass with some muscle even covered with some fat certainly looks better than the, "fat covered carrots attached to a wide flat pancake" look even it means a couple of sizes bigger in pants.
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I don't recall stating that women shouldn't train their lower halves. Just acknowledging that there are some differences in how the upper and lower body respond to training. I wouldn't tell a female client to do shrugs, but that doesn't mean I would have her ignore her back and delts. There's a difference between making excuses not to train (which is what the majority of the "I don't want to bulk" crowd does) and modifying your routine to get the results you're looking for.
Sassy69
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"Bulking" -- seems like the idea, at least for men, is to change their diet up, increase intake to support a muscle growing phase - e.g. for competition - then go into a cutting phase to get ride of the extra fat that came with the increased calorie intake to support the "bulk" phase. As you get closer to competition time, there is that point where there's no point trying to lift for size if you dont' have your muscles at a size/symmetry that you want - all you can do is cut at that point.
Here I'm referring to a serious intent to "bulk", not "bulk" as a euphemism for being lazy or having a crappy diet. For women, I guess if you wanted to develop larger biceps or do some sort of specific resizing that did involve getting bigger, you'd have to increase your calorie intake, and like me for example, I can put on muscle size pretty easily, but with it comes the fat. So I might call that - like "off season" for competition if I wanted to build up my quads more - that would be "bulking". Or even call it "not cutting" as opposed to actually bulking? It seems because women tend to put on fat easier than men, and because we are generally always experiencing estrogen-related fat depositing, where men may only experience it during an AS-supported bulking phase, there is really no need for women to do an explicit "bulking" phase. Instead, its just "not a cutting phase"....
Did the above make any sense...?
Here I'm referring to a serious intent to "bulk", not "bulk" as a euphemism for being lazy or having a crappy diet. For women, I guess if you wanted to develop larger biceps or do some sort of specific resizing that did involve getting bigger, you'd have to increase your calorie intake, and like me for example, I can put on muscle size pretty easily, but with it comes the fat. So I might call that - like "off season" for competition if I wanted to build up my quads more - that would be "bulking". Or even call it "not cutting" as opposed to actually bulking? It seems because women tend to put on fat easier than men, and because we are generally always experiencing estrogen-related fat depositing, where men may only experience it during an AS-supported bulking phase, there is really no need for women to do an explicit "bulking" phase. Instead, its just "not a cutting phase"....
Did the above make any sense...?
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I wouldn't tell a female client to do shrugs?????? Y??? I guess you like an unbalanced look??? Women and men can train alike!!!! No difference....You do not leave body parts out of your training!!!
Someone on the "Pictures of Members" board posted a pic of King Kamali ( hope i spelled that all right )--- in that pic, he looks damn bulky to me . Its a supposedly offseason pic......... now if I saw him at that party, I would of said he looks to me like he is bulking. And bulking huge at that!! I think Sassy69 hit it right on the nail with her last post on here.
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I just wanted to throw in that I've never intentionally done any exercises directly for my traps. They are very well one of my best body parts. I owe it all to stress thank you. The more stress I have the tighter,higher,and longer they stand. For me that is all the work out they seem to need to be as big or bigger than most females. In the 80's mom commented my shoulderpads had wiggled up in my shirt . I went to fix them and it was my traps. hum
On the bulking thing, I don't.
I just wanted to throw in that I've never intentionally done any exercises directly for my traps. They are very well one of my best body parts. I owe it all to stress thank you. The more stress I have the tighter,higher,and longer they stand. For me that is all the work out they seem to need to be as big or bigger than most females. In the 80's mom commented my shoulderpads had wiggled up in my shirt . I went to fix them and it was my traps. hum
On the bulking thing, I don't.
Daeo
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My girlfriend bulks. It's all part of the game. If anyone's ever seen Timea Majorova or Lena Johannesen in the off-season you'd understand why. These women have legs carry some substantial muscle mass. Plus I can guanrantee that they downplay their off-season weight. There's no way that these ladies are only 5lbs heavier. Anyway, my point is to choose your goals and go from there...
To me bulk does not equal 'excuse to get fat'..uhh...
I define it as concentrated growth/addition of muscle mass that is not jeaprodized by really intense cardio (which has its place in stripping the BF OFF those new, larger muscles). This theory/practie has worked really well for me (GREAT gains in shoulder, bicept, tri and traps size, which is one of my goals). Done through the routine I listed above. Again, I dont know if it works for anybody else, but the gains I have gotten have been great!
I define it as concentrated growth/addition of muscle mass that is not jeaprodized by really intense cardio (which has its place in stripping the BF OFF those new, larger muscles). This theory/practie has worked really well for me (GREAT gains in shoulder, bicept, tri and traps size, which is one of my goals). Done through the routine I listed above. Again, I dont know if it works for anybody else, but the gains I have gotten have been great!
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