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Do we really have to play games?

im single
 
You should pick up Madden 09.

I just beat some fool 28-14.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

I am being serious here. I dunno I have such a hard time meeting guys I actually have an interest in then once I do. It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest. Only text him etc in reply to him blah blah blah. Honestly I am so sick of this crap I am 29 not 12. I just rather be honest and up front rather then all of this.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

I am being serious here. I dunno I have such a hard time meeting guys I actually have an interest in then once I do. It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest. Only text him etc in reply to him blah blah blah. Honestly I am so sick of this crap I am 29 not 12. I just rather be honest and up front rather then all of this.

texting!!!!! argggggghhhh
 
Regular buttsecks and you could be a kept woman...I'm just sayin.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

I am being serious here. I dunno I have such a hard time meeting guys I actually have an interest in then once I do. It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest. Only text him etc in reply to him blah blah blah. Honestly I am so sick of this crap I am 29 not 12. I just rather be honest and up front rather then all of this.

this is true, it works both ways too. The up front way is boring tho, easy as it sounds.
 
I am thinking I am going to be single forever if that is the case. I suck at games.

I can play games with the best of them, but I don't believe in manipulation of others (within relationships), so I would have to say I am with ya' on staying single...........
 
lay it on the table early on how you feel about it and you'll weed them out faster

come across a guy that is tired of the game playing too you'll know it

worked for me
 
I would like a girl with hobbies too. I cant pretend to like all the same shit you do for a long time. I'll watch the same shows - I'll get into them.

But fuck. I am constantly dicking around with electronics and hacking everyday things - you could be reading while I was doing that? Instead of harassing me to the point where my head wants to explode and getting emotional about things.
 
I would like a girl with hobbies too. I cant pretend to like all the same shit you do for a long time. I'll watch the same shows - I'll get into them.

But fuck. I am constantly dicking around with electronics and hacking everyday things - you could be reading while I was doing that? Instead of harassing me to the point where my head wants to explode and getting emotional about things.

lol wow.
 
lay it on the table early on how you feel about it and you'll weed them out faster

come across a guy that is tired of the game playing too you'll know it

worked for me

Everyone in the dating game claims to not "play games," most are liars...gotta separate the wheat from the chaff.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest.

This has never happened to me. We're close to the same age, so I wonder what we're doing different. I've dated some crazies, but they weren't game playing crazies.
 
Sorry Woot but my new place me cell reception sucks so I text people more then I call them as I get to pissed with all the dropped calls. I still haven't made up my mind about getting a phone line.

How come nobody ever texts me???
 
I always said I hate games too but then it would seem to keep me more interested in the women than her just falling all over me and it being so easy. I just found in the last few years that I am really tired of the games myself and may just give up and become a priest! My oldest daughter was looking at pics at my house this weekend and found one of me kissing a female and she just started screaming daddy has a girlfriend. I even took a pic of her doing it because it was so cute! I asked her if she would mind if daddy had a girlfriend and she said I'm not allowed too!

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/Jaydenteasingme.jpg
 
I always said I hate games too but then it would seem to keep me more interested in the women than her just falling all over me and it being so easy. I just found in the last few years that I am really tired of the games myself and may just give up and become a priest! My oldest daughter was looking at pics at my house this weekend and found one of me kissing a female and she just started screaming daddy has a girlfriend. I even took a pic of her doing it because it was so cute! I asked her if she would mind if daddy had a girlfriend and she said I'm not allowed too!

http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r23/chrisjaye12/Jaydenteasingme.jpg

Thats cool!
 
blame the women who wrote the book " the rules "
She is the one that told you , guys want to chase down women, hunt girls ,men want the girls who ignore them and " make him want the girl more if she does not show intrest in him" and if he does not play the game he is not good enough for you.As if a woman is some prize for surviving the mindfuck game
You know exactly the book , all girls wake on there 21st birthday awake and find a copy under their pillow and then she goes out in the world to mess with guys heads lead him on, ignore him ,give him mixed signals untill the dood breaks down crys and just flat out thinks the girl is a headcase and never calls back becuase he cant figure you out , then you wonder " geez what did i do wrong " I followed " the rules"
That shit was written years ago Things have changed you are not in the 50's stop that oldschool train of thought .I know you are doing it becuase you mentioned the " cant show to much intrest " b/s

You sound like a cool chick superqt from your post I have read , be upfront and honest with the guys dont play this " better not act to intrested shit " Forget the headgames be yourself and the right guy will come along and respect you for being real and upfront keep the guy wanting more , by making him want YOU more and more through your personality, your kindness and if you are truly a happy person and very joyfull he will always want to be around you becuase it will make him feel good being around a happy girl and you will win him over that way .

I didnt means to sound rude but the new dating scene is not " the cat mouse game " the new deal is is friends that enjoy each others so much they just dont want to be apart and things evolve on their own it just happens .

O to anwser your question why must we play mind games? You dont have to play them
 
blame the women who wrote the book " the rules "
She is the one that told you , guys want to chase down women, hunt girls ,men want the girls who ignore them and " make him want the girl more if she does not show intrest in him"

I'm not gonna lie, this is true especially if she's hot (and a choosy girl)
 
blame the women who wrote the book " the rules "
She is the one that told you , guys want to chase down women, hunt girls ,men want the girls who ignore them and " make him want the girl more if she does not show intrest in him" and if he does not play the game he is not good enough for you.As if a woman is some prize for surviving the mindfuck game
You know exactly the book , all girls wake on there 21st birthday awake and find a copy under their pillow and then she goes out in the world to mess with guys heads lead him on, ignore him ,give him mixed signals untill the dood breaks down crys and just flat out thinks the girl is a headcase and never calls back becuase he cant figure you out , then you wonder " geez what did i do wrong " I followed " the rules"
That shit was written years ago Things have changed you are not in the 50's stop that oldschool train of thought .I know you are doing it becuase you mentioned the " cant show to much intrest " b/s

You sound like a cool chick superqt from your post I have read , be upfront and honest with the guys dont play this " better not act to intrested shit " Forget the headgames be yourself and the right guy will come along and respect you for being real and upfront keep the guy wanting more , by making him want YOU more and more through your personality, your kindness and if you are truly a happy person and very joyfull he will always want to be around you becuase it will make him feel good being around a happy girl and you will win him over that way .

I didnt means to sound rude but the new dating scene is not " the cat mouse game " the new deal is is friends that enjoy each others so much they just dont want to be apart and things evolve on their own it just happens .

O to anwser your question why must we play mind games? You dont have to play them

Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.
 
Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.

Did you give up the poon yet? Really, that's the deciding factor for the guy, he'll be your dream man until he hits it and quits it.
 
Oh hell yeah.
:D
+1 This I could not agree with more.
Don't get jaded, he will come around.
I could give u research studies upon studies, but the more honest you are with yourself and what u really want... he will show up... I really believe it is our subconscious awareness that brings about similar partners...
The more genuine U are, the better it gets...
 
blame the women who wrote the book " the rules "
She is the one that told you , guys want to chase down women, hunt girls ,men want the girls who ignore them and " make him want the girl more if she does not show intrest in him" and if he does not play the game he is not good enough for you.As if a woman is some prize for surviving the mindfuck game
You know exactly the book , all girls wake on there 21st birthday awake and find a copy under their pillow and then she goes out in the world to mess with guys heads lead him on, ignore him ,give him mixed signals untill the dood breaks down crys and just flat out thinks the girl is a headcase and never calls back becuase he cant figure you out , then you wonder " geez what did i do wrong " I followed " the rules"
That shit was written years ago Things have changed you are not in the 50's stop that oldschool train of thought .I know you are doing it becuase you mentioned the " cant show to much intrest " b/s

You sound like a cool chick superqt from your post I have read , be upfront and honest with the guys dont play this " better not act to intrested shit " Forget the headgames be yourself and the right guy will come along and respect you for being real and upfront keep the guy wanting more , by making him want YOU more and more through your personality, your kindness and if you are truly a happy person and very joyfull he will always want to be around you becuase it will make him feel good being around a happy girl and you will win him over that way .

I didnt means to sound rude but the new dating scene is not " the cat mouse game " the new deal is is friends that enjoy each others so much they just dont want to be apart and things evolve on their own it just happens .

O to anwser your question why must we play mind games? You dont have to play them

no fuck no. Im not playing by anyone's rules or games. If Im interested, I have no problems letting you know it. I'm not gonna "wait three days" or some such shit. fuck that. let's be adults and communicate openly. but i dont chase anyone either. if there's no mutual attraction, then Im not interested.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

I am being serious here. I dunno I have such a hard time meeting guys I actually have an interest in then once I do. It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest. Only text him etc in reply to him blah blah blah. Honestly I am so sick of this crap I am 29 not 12. I just rather be honest and up front rather then all of this.

I find that seriously hard to believe :)
 
Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.


you need to play hard to get a little. Guys like that. They like when they have to work to "get the girl"

That being said, he's an idiot if he doesn't text you back.
 
I hate trying to have a conversation via texting. I start responding slower and slower just to slow her down. If I don't have time to call I damn sure don't have time to keep fucking with this tiny ass wanna be phone keyboard.
 
I hate trying to have a conversation via texting. I start responding slower and slower just to slow her down. If I don't have time to call I damn sure don't have time to keep fucking with this tiny ass wanna be phone keyboard.

I like using texting when I'm trying to bullshit a chick because you have time to think and respond but that's the only time.
 
There is no game, only the rules which you set forth and those that you allow yourself to be subject to. I heard some EF member spoutin off about intention creating reality........
 
no fuck no. Im not playing by anyone's rules or games. If Im interested, I have no problems letting you know it. I'm not gonna "wait three days" or some such shit. fuck that. let's be adults and communicate openly. but i dont chase anyone either. if there's no mutual attraction, then Im not interested.

+1

It may have cost me some poon in the past being up front, but I dont like bullshit.
 
There's a job for me if I leave now. There might be a better paying job for the wife.

The competition is less then Toronto. The pay is higher. The winters are colder, but drier.

OMG if you move to Calgary that means I have another in. :D
 
Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.

Guys do like the chase and the hunt, so it does not have to involve "games". If you chill a bit on the text then he gets to hunt you a bit more. That might be "part of the game" but I dont think it is "playing games" per se. Letting him "come to you" does not mean you are fucking with his head, it just means you're letting a man be a man.
 
There is no game, only the rules which you set forth and those that you allow yourself to be subject to. I heard some EF member spoutin off about intention creating reality........
LOL... what a wise person this EF member must be, Casteneda was the first one I read about intention Dr. Chris... but yeah... great post, and could not agree more...
I agree with the sage who remind all of us of this pearl.
 
Awww sweet but neither of you live in Toronto :)

I am being serious here. I dunno I have such a hard time meeting guys I actually have an interest in then once I do. It is like well you can't let him know you like him or he will lose interest. Only text him etc in reply to him blah blah blah. Honestly I am so sick of this crap I am 29 not 12. I just rather be honest and up front rather then all of this.
seems most men are so turned on by the challenge. It is frustrating that you can't just "get real" right away. I feel your pain. I really do.
 
Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.

So who said you're playing games?
I worked shift work for quite a while. It does suck but you may be over reacting. The thing though is if you seem like you are suddenly possessive he may want to push back a bit.
I am direct by nature and don't like the game thing either. If he's into you just chill, make plans to get together after ths shift. He gets a long change right? So there's a few days in a row he can make plans with.

Your hot & know what you want. Where's the problem? Just chill and let him know you're looking forward to getting together. Let him man up. If he doesn't he may not be as interested as you.
 
Thanks :) So here is the total skinny behind all this. I meet this guy last Tuesday we had a great first date. Good conversation a lot the same interest etc. plus a obvious attraction. So yeah he asks me out again for Thursday. I was like heck yeah. Again another great date just great conversation funny makes me laugh etc. Then a really great kiss at the end of the date like wow sparks I haven't felt in a long time. So he does shift work and has 7 days straight long shifts. He says it sucks bad timing as he would like to hang with me more. I am like no worries it is only 7 days. So yeah I am texting him and he is texting back but then I dunno just started feeling like I am text him more then he is me. Maybe I am just over thinking things. But yeah then my friends (girls and guys) are like you have to lay off texting him let him come to you play the game all this crap which is just not me.



If he's a "real man" he won't mind you texting him all the time. Hell, before my wife and I got married and were just dating she texted me all the time, and I loved it! I worked crazy crazy hours to, and it was nice to get a lil message from her.
 
So who said you're playing games?
I worked shift work for quite a while. It does suck but you may be over reacting. The thing though is if you seem like you are suddenly possessive he may want to push back a bit.
I am direct by nature and don't like the game thing either. If he's into you just chill, make plans to get together after ths shift. He gets a long change right? So there's a few days in a row he can make plans with.

Your hot & know what you want. Where's the problem? Just chill and let him know you're looking forward to getting together. Let him man up. If he doesn't he may not be as interested as you.
Yes he is off for 17 days after. I am going to try to just chill. I dunno it is like friends are asking for status reports and am like well he is working there is nothing really to tell maybe that is stressing me out more then anything.
 
Yes he is off for 17 days after. I am going to try to just chill. I dunno it is like friends are asking for status reports and am like well he is working there is nothing really to tell maybe that is stressing me out more then anything.
How old is he, just curious... and what are his best qualities that you -consciously- are attracted too?
 
date older men...
 
He is 33 funny, smart, sweet, easy going, down to earth, athletic, very attractive also into bodybuilding.

Pics? j/k
My next question is when you first met, did you feel an instant attraction?
Second question is how do you feel when U are around him...
What is his body language like when he is around you?
How open is he about talking about himself?
My main thing is when we are attracted to people usually, there is this eager feeling in wanting to talk more about anything... and convo, unless hampered by nervous tension, will or should flow naturally..
However it doesn't seem like this dude should be shy or inhibited so he should be comfortable in opening up to a certain degree...
He knows the balance of being eager yet not to eager...
Just reviewing the above questions may help you unlock a better view of how much he digs on you...
I'm sure he digs on you, but the question is how much, and is he willing to take it to the next level... I think this is what You want to clarify...
Also in past relationships that didn't work out, or U felt were a waste of time, are there indications or feelings like u might be attracted to the same type of person... I mean habitually we all are attracted to familiarity subconsciously... we give reasons, but they are usually not the primary causal ones...
It sounds like you got a good bro... and I only hope it works out for the best, but in order to protect yourself, trust your inner gut of what is actually happening, not what u wanna happen, but what is actually occurring...
Hard to do, but I think its a good way to protect yourself from being hurt.
You are a catch... attractive, funny, open minded, genuine, and ambitious... the thing about relationships or the initial thing, u kinda get a great opportunity to know more about yourself if you are willing to look.
 
hmmm...have you gave it up yet? maybe that's what he's holding out for...


Just throwin' that out there
Nope just kissed not even 2nd base.

Pics? j/k
My next question is when you first met, did you feel an instant attraction?
Second question is how do you feel when U are around him...
What is his body language like when he is around you?
How open is he about talking about himself?
My main thing is when we are attracted to people usually, there is this eager feeling in wanting to talk more about anything... and convo, unless hampered by nervous tension, will or should flow naturally..
However it doesn't seem like this dude should be shy or inhibited so he should be comfortable in opening up to a certain degree...
He knows the balance of being eager yet not to eager...
Just reviewing the above questions may help you unlock a better view of how much he digs on you...
I'm sure he digs on you, but the question is how much, and is he willing to take it to the next level... I think this is what You want to clarify...
Also in past relationships that didn't work out, or U felt were a waste of time, are there indications or feelings like u might be attracted to the same type of person... I mean habitually we all are attracted to familiarity subconsciously... we give reasons, but they are usually not the primary causal ones...
It sounds like you got a good bro... and I only hope it works out for the best, but in order to protect yourself, trust your inner gut of what is actually happening, not what u wanna happen, but what is actually occurring...
Hard to do, but I think its a good way to protect yourself from being hurt.
You are a catch... attractive, funny, open minded, genuine, and ambitious... the thing about relationships or the initial thing, u kinda get a great opportunity to know more about yourself if you are willing to look.
Yes I was attracted right away and it grew as we started to talk. The more I talk to him the more I like him very similar values and mind set. This sounds so gay but I actually get butterflies to see him. His body language is very open and he has no problem opening up talking about himself. I asked some difficult questions and he was pretty candid with me.
I don't think he is like a lot of the guys I have dated in the past. Most guys are pretty aggressive with my physically he was not at all just a kissing. Which makes me like him more as I can tell that is not all he is out for.
 
Okay he knows exactly where the momentum of this relationship is, Super... You are a total catch, and I'm so happy that you got this connection... people kill for this shit, so thats a good thing, okay here is the thing... dude has game, this I do not doubt at all, and he know exactly what he is doing... however, I hate to say this but while he wants a connection, he loves the game...This is how I feel, he is open, conducts convo effortlessly, is easy going, you can sense the genuine openness about him... agian I'm glad u found a great connection, however, what is important is that you can't ignore the subconscious patterns that drive us all, it is only to take for granted what is easily accessible, so my point is, it sounds like he really like you and knows exactly what he is doing, however, do not make it too easy, cause that kinda dampers the attraction. One of your strong qualities is your ambitious, independent nature, keep this in the back of your mind, when you are with him, just don't be so overeager, kinda hold back. I know this sounds like you are being inauthentic, but you gotta respect the rules of the subconscious... I hate it too, and have blown so many dates by being overeager... I have learned by the bitterest of teachers, experience.
I know he digs u, the question is how much, and can u increase how much he values his connection with u, and this is what u wanna do, its not playing games, its just respecting our innate tendencies when it comes to interpersonal attraction. Finally, yeah it sounds like you do have someone who is genuine... Good luck.
 
Nope just kissed not even 2nd base.


man...how much of a killer does that have to be! I hate to be that blunt about it, but its always in the back of every guys mind.

and...

you honestly have smokin' hot body (i'm sure your face is aswell), seem super cool and down to earth. So that has to be torture. It would be for me. LOL
 
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