Do We Need Test If We Use Deca + Cabergoline?

[mickey224]

I have male pattern baldness. I am interested in Deca, but to keep my sex drive I would have to run it with testosterone, and deca does not work with finasteride. So am I out of luck with deca?

I read that cabergoline will counteract the prolactin caused by deca. Can I use cabergoline to keep my sex drive instead of using test?

I see that I have two options:

1. 400mg deca, .25 cabergoline EOD
2. 400mg deca, 100mg test-e (any higher will trigger hair loss)


I am open to other options with finasteride. Can I combine finasteride with Equipoise or Primobolan?

 

[stevesmi]

my advice is just stay away from deca. there are plenty of other AAS to choose from. deca is extremely misunderstood and whether you run it with test or not you can have issues on cycle or after cycle from it.

 

[mickey224]

my advice is just stay away from deca. there are plenty of other AAS to choose from. deca is extremely misunderstood and whether you run it with test or not you can have issues on cycle or after cycle from it.

What do you suggest then? If not deca, I was going to take:

400mg test-e, with either Primobolan or Equipoise

AND

Arimidex .25 EOD
cabergoline 2x/week (will this work to counteract limp dick from Propecia?)
finasteride 2.5mg
Nizoral shampoo
Minoxidil 5%

Will finasteride work better with Primo or Equipoise?

 

[ballslee]

I would go with EQ since primo may excite your MPB. don't need caber and test should be plenty to help limp dick. but you could just use hcg if you don't want to use test. You could opt for NPP which is deca with a shorter ester and take caber and hcg. just would be more often injects.

 

[mickey224]

I would go with EQ since primo may excite your MPB. don't need caber and test should be plenty to help limp dick. bt you could just use hcg if you don't want to use test.You could opt for NPP which is deca with a shorter ester and take caber and hcg.just would be more often injects.

Your ideas are interesting but vague and incomplete.Can you be more detailed? I'm not sure where I'm not sure where finasteride fits in here.The caber would be to counteract the finasteride limp dick. Are you suggesting that HCG can work with equipoise and I won't need test?
The npp Deca would also kill my sex drive right? But hcg will bring it back as good as test?And caber will reverse the limp dick?
Lots of questions.I've read a phenomenal amount about hair loss and steroids but this the first time I've heard of hcg, and using it to replace test.Can you share more details to educate us please?

 

[stevesmi]

try EQ. primo and baldness don't mix well.

nothing wrong with an EQ cycle. it aromatizes half as much as deca so you will still get some good gains, disadvantage is its the U ester so it has to be run a while to get it built up in the system.. I just started EQ myself..

 

[Nelson Montana]

my advice is just stay away from deca. There are plenty of other aas to choose from. Deca is extremely misunderstood and whether you run it with test or not you can have issues on cycle or after cycle from it.

+1

 

[mickey224]

try EQ. primo and baldness don't mix well.

nothing wrong with an EQ cycle. it aromatizes half as much as deca so you will still get some good gains, disadvantage is its the U ester so it has to be run a while to get it built up in the system..I just started EQ myself..

Can you be more specific? EQ With test? Or EQ alone? If so, Which test? With finasteride? With caber? What exact doses of each?

And what is the hair loss risk in your suggestion?

 

[dylangemelli]

your going to need to run eq at least 16 weeks... you don't need caber with it...

1-16 test e 350-400 mg week
1-16 eq 500-600 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-12 hcgenerate
13-16 hcg 500 ius week
17-18 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 19-22

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com


IS THAT SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR YOU??

 

[mickey224]

your going to need to run eq at least 16 weeks... you don't need caber with it...

1-16 test e 350-400 mg week
1-16 eq 500-600 mg week
1-16 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
7-12 hcgenerate
13-16 hcg 500 ius week
17-18 hcg 1000 ius week

pct 19-22

clomid 25/25/25/25 AGguys.com

Methyl EAA and Test Infusion mrsupps.com
forma stanzol mrsupps.com

Keto burn MRSUPPS.COM
ostarine 25 mg day uniquemicals.com


IS THAT SPECIFIC ENOUGH FOR YOU??

Unfortunately, no. The whole point of this thread is reducing risk of hair loss, and reducing risk of Deca dick or finasteride limp dick. And your cycle doesn't address either.

Where does finasteride fit in? At 400mg of test (plus hcg effects), I'd have to take at least 2.5-5mg or more of finasteride, which is likely to cause Propecia limp dick. Is it possible to take 100mg of test with 500-600 of EQ and have a good result?

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[C0LUMB0]

Steroids aside ,Have you researched the negative side effects of finasteride ?

have you used it before ?

have you used AAS before ?...if so , whats your cycle history.

 

[Jbranken]

What Dylan set up is a good cycle but if you're concerned about the hair loss, you could just lower it to a trt dose and that would mean less libido problems with the fina.

 

[mickey224]

What Dylan set up is a good cycle but if you're concerned about the hair loss, you could just lower it to a trt dose and that would mean less libido problems with the fina.

What would be the TRT dose exactly and would fina even be necessary at that dose. From my understanding, fina gives limp dick even if test is given, and it just gets more limp with higher doses of test.

(I took fina for two years in 2007-08 and I had libido and ED problems ever since.)

I'd appreciate if you could comment on the previous comments about HCG and hcg replacing test....


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[Xandoz]

YES you ALWAYS use TESTOSTERONE as the base of ALL and ANY CYCLE.

 

[bonacris]

YES you ALWAYS use TESTOSTERONE as the base of ALL and ANY CYCLE.

This is the 3rd time I've seen you post something like this and its not true.. please stop posting this

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[Xandoz]

This is the 3rd time I've seen you post something like this and its not true.. please stop posting this

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Its the 3rd time you seen me posting something like this BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. Testosterone is to be the MAIN hormone in your system. It is the building BLOCK, the rest of the anabolics you ADD IN are the SUPPORTERS. Do you understand? Testosterone is ALWAYS to be USED UNLESS you are a FEMALE.

 

[bonacris]

Its the 3rd time you seen me posting something like this BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. Testosterone is to be the MAIN hormone in your system. It is the building BLOCK, the rest of the anabolics you ADD IN are the SUPPORTERS. Do you understand? Testosterone is ALWAYS to be USED UNLESS you are a FEMALE.

All anabolics are derived from test. Please tell me why it is so important?

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[Jack steel]

Being derived from testosterone doesn't mean it's the same thing. Humans came from monkeys. BIG diff!

 

[Jack steel]

Its the 3rd time you seen me posting something like this BECAUSE IT IS TRUE. Testosterone is to be the MAIN hormone in your system. It is the building BLOCK, the rest of the anabolics you ADD IN are the SUPPORTERS. Do you understand? Testosterone is ALWAYS to be USED UNLESS you are a FEMALE.

But this is not exactly true. You may feel better when adding test to a cycle as it will overshadow some of the negative side effects of certain other hormones. It is not required to use test in every cycle but it CAN help.

 

[bonacris]

Being derived from testosterone doesn't mean it's the same thing. Humans came from monkeys. BIG diff!

Didn't mean it was the same thing, he said test is the building block but all AAS are derived from test and are definitely not just supporters.

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[mickey224]

But this is not exactly true. You may feel better when adding test to a cycle as it will overshadow some of the negative side effects of certain other hormones. It is not required to use test in every cycle but it CAN help.

Well if you have more knowledge to share, I'd like to hear it. Along with MPB and a low libido, I have lipomatosis, which is a condition that causes tiny benign fat tumors to grow on my thighs. It is a lifelong condition that I've grown to accept and live with. Lipoma fat cells have a high density of androgenic receptors, which means that the more androgenic a steroid is, the faster they will grow. So one of my aims is to use the least androgenic options possible.

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[dvoted]

This topic is getting off hand l0l

 

[mickey224]

try EQ. primo and baldness don't mix well.

nothing wrong with an EQ cycle. it aromatizes half as much as deca so you will still get some good gains, disadvantage is its the U ester so it has to be run a while to get it built up in the system.. I just started EQ myself..

Just wanted to let you know that I tried EQ with fina 2.5mg/ed and my hairline receded by 1 inch. I'm never touching it again.

While EQ might be "safer" when comparing to other roids, you can still lose a lot of hair on it.