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Do men like aggressive women?

SoKlueles

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I dont mean come on REALLY strong, but someone that lets them know DEFINATELY they want to sleep with them or something? I mean, do u touch their leg or just keep touching them? I have a problem with this sometimes, I get nervous and shy (believe it or not) What is a definate sign to let someone know that your interested?
 
Well, it might be a bit extreme. If you want something a little less agressive but still gets the point across; you could jump on me, er him, and stradle my, er his, legs and proceed to kiss me, er him.
 
as long as agressiveness indicates "confidence".

aggression in a situation where the woman has no interest in the man -- is a disaster and can lead to an ugly finale.

i found cockiness and confidence is much more attractive when it's balanced out by small episodes of "caring" and "niceness". It's almost like women are so turned on by 80% badness and 20% goodness. That 20% goodness becomes so special and unique that it's "sexy".

Which of course totally fucked up from a logic standpoint -- since you'd think a 100% nice person would be much more ideal.

But whoever even implied ever tyat women and logic have something even remotely in common?
 
Well I think you are trying to say women have no logic, but im letting that one slide, im not asking about logic, im asking about being aggressive. I just know i went on a date and the guy was too aggressive, well if he had swatted a fly he would have been too aggressive, ive been told that men like women to be aggressive.Im trying to work on that:)
 
SoKlueles,

Don't believe the reams of bull you are going to read on this thread. 95%+ of men are turned off and intimidated by an agressive woman. And the ones who say differently are mostly full of it, or not very self aware.

Aggressive translates to easy in a guys mind, and nobody wants to be with a girl they think is easy. That's basic, all women know that to be true,whether by personal experience,or the experiences of their girlfriends.

Just like most guys know that if they meet a girl they just want to shag, they have to be something of a jerk. Because if the woman thinks you are "desirable" in the long term potential sense, she's likely to move slower not to screw things up. But if she's attracted in the "but I would never want to take him home to meet mom" sense you are far more likely to have some fun that night. And before you say "that's not true" really think about it and what you have seen. Although nowadays everyone just wants to screw, so either things are changing, or I'm no longer considered a good catch.:)

The point is that if you're not perceived to have put up something of a fight, he's going to think anyone could have had you, even if you spend ten hours telling him "I'm really not that kind of girl." If you just want to have fun, then go for it. If you are looking at him as something potentially more, then you'll have to slow it down. How long can it take anyway for the guy to make a move. If it's just that he hasn't on the first couple of dates, it may be because he does like you. It could be just that he's incredibly shy also, but that isn't necessarily a bad thing. At least you won't have to worry as much about him being out on his own:)
 
Oh, and if it's somebody you haven't dated yet, then there are better ways than "touching his leg." If that's the case, let us know.
 
Yep, nothing like a hot chick walking up and giving you a right cross out of the blue or even a beer bottle across the head.
 
It all depends how aggressive you are homegirl,
You can come off as aggressive, confident, female that knows when she wants, or you can come off as a dick fiend slut…. It is all in how you approach it. Bottom line is that if you are good looking, most of the guys you know/meet want to fuck you. Every time a dude opens a door for you or buys you a drink is is actually saying “Would you like some dick?” You just have to find a nice way of letting them know you are a willing participant without saying “wanna fuck?”
When a chick gives me her number and says, “give me a call tomorrow!” That usualy means I don’t have to wait to call and she is letting me know she is very interested and wants to get it going ASAP…
 
I dont want to fuck everyone i meet, I just want to know about the whole aggressive thing, I didnt know if men like a caring female who dont start smacking them on the butt and stuff
being nice and sweet didnt work for me before, i was wondering if i should change my tactics
 
SoKlueles said:
I dont want to fuck everyone i meet, I just want to know about the whole aggressive thing, I didnt know if men like a caring female who dont start smacking them on the butt and stuff
being nice and sweet didnt work for me before, i was wondering if i should change my tactics


You can be nice and sweet and still be forward...
As men it is hard for us to know if a girl likes us or not. Just make sure you let the guy know you like him. you don't have to put it out there for him but a simple "I think you are very handsome" will go a long way with a guy. At least he knows you are attrackted to him.


PS:I would save the butt smacking after you have known the guy for a while.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
It all depends how aggressive you are homegirl,
You can come off as aggressive, confident, female that knows when she wants, or you can come off as a dick fiend slut…. It is all in how you approach it. Bottom line is that if you are good looking, most of the guys you know/meet want to fuck you. Every time a dude opens a door for you or buys you a drink is is actually saying “Would you like some dick?” You just have to find a nice way of letting them know you are a willing participant without saying “wanna fuck?”
When a chick gives me her number and says, “give me a call tomorrow!” That usualy means I don’t have to wait to call and she is letting me know she is very interested and wants to get it going ASAP…


BRR tell's it like it is.
 
SoKlueles said:
I dont want to fuck everyone i meet, I just want to know about the whole aggressive thing, I didnt know if men like a caring female who dont start smacking them on the butt and stuff
being nice and sweet didnt work for me before, i was wondering if i should change my tactics

No I wouldn't; stay nice and sweet. Just like BRR says.
You can be assertive and still be sweet. I think guys respond better when girls are nice, and not bitchy. You will know if they like you or not.

:qt:
 
Pamela said:
No I wouldn't; stay nice and sweet. Just like BRR says.
You can be assertive and still be sweet. I think guys respond better when girls are nice, and not bitchy. You will know if they like you or not.

:qt:
:heart:
 
You just have to learn to interpret the subtle signs men give to show that we're interested.

For example when I stare directly at a womans cleavage, and ignore everything she's saying, that means I like her boobies. Same thing when I'm checking out her butt.

Or, when I start humping her leg at a party, what I'm actually trying to communicate is that I would like a more intimate relationship. It used to mean I just wasn't very knowledgeable about female anatomy, but I've gotten better. I now have a biology book with illustrations, so I'm good to go I think, so long as the woman has writing on her skin with arrows pointing to all the different parts.
 
Jersyart is right on the money that most guys will find it a huge turnoff. to us aggression translates to 'drama' and that means way too much work.

the irony is that aggressive, confrontational women are really looking for an alpha male wifebeater who wont take their shit & keep them in line.. at least in my limited experience of dating them.
 
im all for the agressive. i just like to have fun. never looking for anything beyond that. Agressive girls just make it easy for me, and most of the time agressive girls are more fun to hang around with even when not just doing it .

as far as signs. you can do suttle things like place your hand on him durring conversation. find some way to make physical contact that does not make you feel like you are being a slut.

Make sure you look at him when you talk to him , and when he is talking to you. I know shy girls look away, but weather the guy understands that or not it makes a girl look non intrested.
 
SoKlueles said:
I dont want to fuck everyone i meet, I just want to know about the whole aggressive thing, I didnt know if men like a caring female who dont start smacking them on the butt and stuff
being nice and sweet didnt work for me before, i was wondering if i should change my tactics

You answered your own question with this post. If what you were doing before wasn't working, change it! You don't have to be in your face, brash aggressive, just try something different til you find your niche.
 
Big Rick Rock said:
It all depends how aggressive you are homegirl,
You can come off as aggressive, confident, female that knows when she wants, or you can come off as a dick fiend slut…. It is all in how you approach it. Bottom line is that if you are good looking, most of the guys you know/meet want to fuck you. Every time a dude opens a door for you or buys you a drink is is actually saying “Would you like some dick?” You just have to find a nice way of letting them know you are a willing participant without saying “wanna fuck?”
When a chick gives me her number and says, “give me a call tomorrow!” That usualy means I don’t have to wait to call and she is letting me know she is very interested and wants to get it going ASAP…

"A dick fiend slut"........and that's what? A woman who wants regular, no strings attached good sex? Why does a woman need to tiptoe around the issue if all she wants is some good sex?


And IF you are assertive, confident and attractive, guys tend to get scared away for the most part. Guys imagine that assertiveness would be sexy but in reality it usually intimidates them.
 
anya said:
"A dick fiend slut"........and that's what? A woman who wants regular, no strings attached good sex? Why does a woman need to tiptoe around the issue if all she wants is some good sex?

Don't get me wrong, I do not judge women. I think that if men stopped judging women for wanting "regular, no strings attached good sex" we would all get laid more often... But since sokluless is not going to encounter too many guys that feel the way I do. I'm giving her advice that would apply to the majority of the hypocritical, chauvinistic, male population.

anya said:
And IF you are assertive, confident and attractive, guys tend to get scared away for the most part. Guys imagine that assertiveness would be sexy but in reality it usually intimidates them.

You might be running into the wrong kind of men. I don’t get intimidated.
The way I look at it: either she is feeling me or she is not. If she is feeling me and lets me know it, all the better. If she is not felling me, I won't waste her time or mines.
 
anya said:
"A dick fiend slut"........and that's what? A woman who wants regular, no strings attached good sex? Why does a woman need to tiptoe around the issue if all she wants is some good sex?


And IF you are assertive, confident and attractive, guys tend to get scared away for the most part. Guys imagine that assertiveness would be sexy but in reality it usually intimidates them.


True, and I posted much the same.

But understand the reality. Men like women are programmed to value certain traits more than others. Our biology is wired to make certain we reproduce our genes, and optimally that requires a faithful woman.

I'm not saying we can't or shouldn't overcome our instincts, but it's not the same thing as a natural attraction. I should be able to appreciate the short dumpy looking girl as much as a more attractive one, but it is not instinctual.

Blaming men for that is no more appropriate than blaming women for seeking out those traits nature has instilled in them.

So yeah, for some it may well be intimidation. For a lot of guys though it's just a turn off, because it isn't what we find attractive, more so when there are so many STD's floating around
 
ABSOLUTELY. Men get tired of having to do all the work.. its very refreshing to find a girl that KNOWS what she wants and goes after it.. makes us men feel very desireable.
 
Most guys do not want an overly aggressive chick.

There is something very undignified about a woman who literally throws herself at you. It's unattractive.

If you want to convey interest, TOUCH the guy. Use your hand, touch his leg, arm, be touchy. That will greenlight. As for being more aggressive than this, you could just get your face closer. But, a lot of guys won't like it if a bitch makes the initial aggressive move. Some might, but most won't.

Wear tastefully slutty clothing. If a chick wants a guy to make a move it is all about how she ADVERTISES, not about her actually making the moves. Shorter skirts, tight shirts, etc., help convey to a guy that a ho is interested. You can guide the conversation onto your underwear; that pretty much is an invitation in not so many words.

But, if a chick just out and said "do you want to fuck," I'd probably say "no thanks, sweetie" with an air of patronization. In fact, the times I've turned chicks down for sex has been more fun than some of the sex I've had because women do NOT respond well to rejection. Some of them lapse into almost apoplexy, like those androids that get short circuited and just keep making the same movement over and over again. And, since I'm into picking up chicks for the powertrip ANYWAY, that accomplishes the goal and is incredibly entertaining. But, I think I may have drifted off topic here.
 
I don't like agressive women. I like a woman that flirts and teases me. It allows emotions to build, which makes for extreamly intense sex, getting jacked against the wall sex!
But thats just me?
 
I don't think SoKlu is saying aggressive in grabbing your hair pulling you into the bed room and say Let's get it on"!

I think she's just wondering if you can just be more open about wanting sex and how she likes it.

I don't see any man who wouldn't like that! :qt:
 
truth be told us men are clueless when it comes to signals... some catch on quick others just have no freakin idea whats going on...

so its helpful if a girl makes first moves in areas until the guy catches on and take over... unless you got urself the big V and he isnt takin the lead after 10 minutes of you gropin(sp) him and tellin him that u want him oh so badly..

hell with me.. a girl who says she want me to "beep her" and then to "beep beep her" works for me cause i hate beating around the bush.,.. just get to the point and lets have some fun... i'll certainly respect you more in the morning..lol
 
I'd prefer that a girl say what she wants. I don't go for "signals" as I don't play games with women. If a girl wants something from me, she'd better have the balls to make it known or she will lose out. I'm pretty picky anways, so just because a girl wants sex doesn't mean she's getting it from me. I'm specific about my women.......

:chomp:
 
anya said:
"A dick fiend slut"........and that's what? A woman who wants regular, no strings attached good sex? Why does a woman need to tiptoe around the issue if all she wants is some good sex?

a dick fiend slut is a female that a guy will never go out with........she's perceived as being nasty and a chick who will dickdown any guy...basically a girl that no guy who respects himself will get with.

anya said:
IF you are assertive, confident and attractive, guys tend to get scared away for the most part. Guys imagine that assertiveness would be sexy but in reality it usually intimidates them.

I think you are right in general but wrong about me specifically. I would prefer that women be aggressive, but the problem is, if I don't find them attractive, will they be able to take the rejection when it comes back the same way......aggressive? Women don't intimidate me in the least, I've yet to find one can take the mindfuck that I give them during sex without being clingy afterwards...

:chomp:
 
if they are planning a life with the guy, that guy might end up in daily battles to keep his balls, the hottest girl i ever met picked me up in class and was ready to fuck the first night, but i held off til the second date, ended up marrying her 2 years later and now shes a lil preggy/psychotic and well shes always had a short fuse and been a bit bitchy but lemme tell ya its a fine line between being a man and keeping the peace/ police away from listenin outside your door, sometimes you just have to say im sorry, on the bright side im getting a lot more use out of my blues collection, im leavin now, leavin now, leavin noooowww, im gonna get back home somehow
 
I love aggresive women they let you know what they want rather than pussy footing about.

I am shit at going up to women so it helps when the women are aggressive and come up to me and make it clear what they want.

Had one last night that was really aggressive and she was fantastic fun, didn't mind telling me what she liked in bed and wasn't shy. We had great sex for hours and was some of teh best sex i have ever had.

but even if it is just to come up to you and say i like you, that would do me like i said i am shit at going up to women.

more the better i say as it doesn't seem to bother women going up to men.
 
I have been discussing this amongst myself and yes, girls that arent aggressive arent a challenge and get boring fast, fiesty/aggresive girls make you think fast :)
 
DIVISION said:
a dick fiend slut is a female that a guy will never go out with........she's perceived as being nasty and a chick who will dickdown any guy...basically a girl that no guy who respects himself will get with.


Youre not going to find many women hot women in this category so where is the dilemma? Hot women have to beat em off (lol).
 
I like when a woman knows what she wants, and tells you so. You can be opinionated and assertive, but just know where that line is. Delicate as a flower, yet firm and confident. Very sexy!
 
Yes..during certain times..like when my cocks in her mouth and she sucks it like she was Wonder Woman and life as we know it on this planet depended her to get the job done! Or when she tells me to put my cock in any hole I want....now that I like...YES aggressive is good!
 
I dont know about anyone else but, guys have like what 10-15x the amount of hormones going through their bodies as girls if im not mistaken. Therefore through no fault of our own we are much more visually/touch/sexually or whatever you want to say oriented (sorry its not our fault! just think how things would be if reality were reversed and girls were this way? Get the picture? You'd have women raping guys all the time lol).

ehem... anyways in short being aggressive with men for the most part works (while the reverse seems to be true for girls their afraid to come off as "easy" or "slutty" but trust me guys DON'T think this way, its not like a guy after getting a girls number is gonna go to his friends or think to himself "Oh what a slut that girl is for giving me her number like that" or whatever! C'MON!) But again being aggressive works unless a) the guys afraid i.e. he may want you but he doesnt want to put himself into an awkward situation or b) hes gay or already taken, in which case "good luck". Wow I should be getting paid for giving away this kind of information$$$!!! lol Either way as long as your on the cuter side (again not trying to be shallow here but just refferring to what I said earlier ^^^^)and try to utilize this priceless information I've just givin you lol, you should do just fine girlie girlie, hope this helps! -----Ore
 
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JerseyArt said:
You just have to learn to interpret the subtle signs men give to show that we're interested.

For example when I stare directly at a womans cleavage, and ignore everything she's saying, that means I like her boobies. Same thing when I'm checking out her butt.

Or, when I start humping her leg at a party, what I'm actually trying to communicate is that I would like a more intimate relationship. It used to mean I just wasn't very knowledgeable about female anatomy, but I've gotten better. I now have a biology book with illustrations, so I'm good to go I think, so long as the woman has writing on her skin with arrows pointing to all the different parts.


i just started cracking up out loud at work! too funny...
 
I like aggressive women...up to a point. I like if I'm out and a girl innitiates a conversation, or even if one asks me out. I think it's cool and shows confidence. But at the same time (believe it or not!), I've had girls I hardly know tell me flat out that they want to fuck me, and that's a turn off. As much as I'd like to flatter myself, I'm sure I'm not the first guy these girls have said shit like this to, or the last. It's pretty much them telling me "hey, I'm a nasty skank and I want to fuck you and make your dick fall off from whatever disease(s) I'm carrying." Fuck that!
 
Pamela said:
Assertive! Women who know what they want.

As a general rule:


The hotter a girl is, the shyer she is. Or less assertive.
It may be inherent, a low self esteem, or IMO, she is the type of girl who has class and does not ACT like a slut.

Classy, hot girls let you know they like you indirectly and are not aggressive.
Think about sex and aggressiveness. The man is the aggressor and the women the receptor. Bring this to seduction and it is the women who is the enticer, the man the aggressor in the game of cat and mouse.
 
Tweakle said:
the irony is that aggressive, confrontational women are really looking for an alpha male wifebeater who wont take their shit & keep them in line.. at least in my limited experience of dating them.

You are correct. They want a father to discipline them. They are a spoiled little girl who wants to get a spanking. It only works if that girl has a hot body. Else, um ........picture a pig begging to get laid.
 
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FknKnuckleHd said:
I like a woman that flirts and teases me. It allows emotions to build, which makes for extreamly intense sex, getting jacked against the wall sex!
But thats just me?


Anticipation. Building Up.



Look at the this hot babe (hb 9 or 10, i.e. a rare women).
You are imaging her naked because she is dressed nice but sexy. Tight jeans, sexy brown hair, and yo, a tight t shirt with no bra, you can see her jutting nipples, um.......You do not look at her nipples at all costs. This intrigues her. "Hey aren't my nipples awesome!!! Beg dog, but you are not good enuff, not enough money is her FRONT to other dudes, a golddigger female player).
You talk.
She is nice but stuck up. You need to get under that bitch shield.
Every dude is checking her out.
She thinks she is hot shit (she is).
You innocently touch her because you know her entire body is a vagina.
You demonstrate your value (job, education, culture, lifestyle). You are on her level. Even higher. You are smarter then her, funnier then her, coolier then her, you life is MUCH more interesting then hers (this is a indirect Neg hit, btw).
She loosins up and you can tell she is becoming attracted to you.
You discern what motivates her (love, sex, money, adventure) You direct the conversation toward her desires and you are heightening her desires. YOU are ABLE to not only fullfill her DESIRES, but INCREASE the level of her fulfillment.Being you have now done the prep work and increased your odds, you can now:
You ask for her number, she gives it to you. You give her yours. I will call you and we will go "_____whatever she was interested in which you decipher during the conversation"
You wait the required 2 days to call.
Nobody home. You do not leave a message. You figure she is testing you to see if you are like every other man, a chump. You are not. You are different.
You wait some more.
A week later she calls you.
You talk for the max time on the phone allowed according to seduction rules, 2 minutes. You setup a date.
You setup an action date, on Tuesday (your weekends are booked) where the girl is on your turf, not a convo coffee/dinner date$$$$$$ where you are on her turf.
She is excited, not very good at rockclimbing, etc........she is impressed with you, your "athleticism"
She likes your body, you wit, cockiness. You are fun to be around. But........she liked it when you helped her when she was having trouble on the climb by touching her leg and arm. KINO She wanted more....she has sexual thoughts about you...... You use sexual and masculine words which she does not notice which further puts her in heat. She is turned on by your masculinity. You are not a pussy, chump. You end it with a hug and kiss and make no mention of another date. She was used to guys (sleazebags and stalkers in her eyes) going for her panties ASAP). You intrigue her.
She is not sure if YOU like her.

You call her next monday. Never call Thurs to Sat being you are busy with other babes on more intimate dates. She has not worked her way up to #1 even if she is #1 in your eyes. At this point, she cannot know she is #1.

You say the date was nice and setup a more intimate date. You can do this being you have gained her trust and she is open to a more sexual environment. The beach, massages, etc....an enviroment that leads to .............Sex.

Everything progressively gets more sexual.

Then its sex once week. You have sex with other girls different days of the week.

Then priortization her.
(booty call or a relationship).
Its on your terms. You are the player. She has to pass your tests. Is she worthy?
Its like you are the PRIZE and she is not sure if she has the prize.
 
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Dirk Howat said:
As a general rule:

The hotter a girl is, the shyer she is. Or less assertive..


I forgot to mention:
HB10 Profile

The hottest girls, hb 9 or 10, have guys come and hit on them all the time. They do not have to ASK for sex. They have a wide choice of who will f them.

She just needs to look very hot (not just clothes, but the body itself) and be in your vicinity. Everything else will follow. If she wants to be aggressive, she must intiate the conversation. That is all she needs to do. Act like normal people, 50/50.

Which is why you do not act like other dudes to the hottest girls. You do not hit on them. You seduce them. Ignore them, neg hit them, demonstrate your value. Then you work your way under her bitch shield and get her to beg for it (which she probably has never done because its the guys who beg for it with hb10s)

By this logic:
An assertive girl equates to a girl who cannot get a man.

By assertive I am excluding hot girls who come on you to subtley by wearing sexy clothes and wanting to talk to you. But even being to forward looks like desperation. See HB10 profile.
 
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On the other hand:

If a girl has a really nice body. I like to intiate that I am interested. If I see a very sexy girl, yo, I am going to compliment her, very causually, in a fun, non threatening way. For example, There is a girl dressing very hot, I just say "damn", "my god" or "holy shit" under my breath as she walks by so she can barely hear it. They like that and she knows that I would have sex with her).

Now she knows I would have sex with her, its her turn to make herself available. The problem is that when a girls knows that a man she likes wants her, she really does nothing and expects a man to beg and what happens is that nothing happens because she does not pursue.

If she wants sex. She should then just go up to him and ask if he wants sex.

Being aggressive (when she got the o.k. from me is not aggressive)

"Do you want to have sex"

or

"You wanna do something" usually works as well.

"sure" would be an appropriate response. "My name is Dirk"


Its really that simple.
Hell yes, if it is a girl with a badass body. What is there to lose?

We have to ball it up. Most girls are chicken. If you are hot, just ask. Normal guys love having sex with girls with hot, fit bodies. You do not have to be perfect, just sexually attractive, no big ass, chest is not as important as a hot, tight ass, low bf, which equates to much oral pleasure.

Women are too insecure.

I guarantee you, if she is hot, a guy will be nice to her and NOT turn her down. Which is why if I see a VERY hot girl, bodywise, I will make it known in a complimentary way. See knows. Its her turn. You would have to be gay not to have sex with a girl with a badass body. Because:

Hot women should get what they want. We understand this. Its a mans world, but hot women should get all of the mans bounty.

Hot women have it very easy. They can have sex with most any guy they wish if they have the courage to follow through with their desires. Most girls are chicken though, like cats. Men are dogs, Women are Cats.
 
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