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Do I need medical attention? help please!

shamrock11 said:
Yeah but this guy did a post a week or two ago talking about doing this and was told 1ml/cc= 250mg. I remember reading the post and thinking dam this guy shouldn't be doing this at all. He has no idea what he is doing. Dude don't do anyother shot do your pct and see a doc.

I definately agree that he made a big mistake shooting 10ml in one day, the confusion can definately happen to a newbie, but if he stops or drops down to 1ml per week, I dont really see a problem. I dont understand what you guys think a doctor is going to do for him, he cant take the shit out, all hes going to say is you shouldnt be using steroids to begin with.
 
KA-BAR said:
You fuckers are KILLING me. lol This is a great thread. It just about made me cry laughing so hard. Nobody is going to die from injecting 10cc. I personally know a friend of mine who has stuck 6cc of Fort Dodge in each glute and never had a prob at all. He liked to take 600mg of EQ once a week and loved Fort Dodge. Of course 600mg does not touch 2.5 grams but I also know guys who have done 2 grams of test per week but they are very high level competitors. I think it would be very hard to OD on Steroids. Hell I think somebody could take a 100 dbols and not die where if you take 100 aspirin you would not live long at all.


Heh heh, I used to love that shit too. I was doing 10mls a week into my bis and delts. That shit is awesome.
 
Solidrock1951 said:
I just felt I had to give you a little response.... IT HAPPENED that's all I,m gonna say. You know it could be my iron constitution, or it could be that I just take real good care of my health, because both of these things are realities.. or it could be that I am just one lucky motherf ker. I don't know and I don't really care, nor do I care whether you believe it or not, I'm just one happy son of a bitch that my ass is still attached and not the color green ...YET anyway. I could blame it on my source but I believe in taking responsibility for my own actions, and it was not really a source but a middleman trying to make a buck I had to go through in order to get the stuff so you can see the problem with that too. Anyway don't come down on the mods here because they are obviously better at reading people than you are and can recognize an honest bro in trouble when they see one, and its a good goddamned thing too because I think that this is one of the reasons a site like this exists for people like us that want to play God with our own bodies. So please give them and yourself a break and lighten up a little friend.

That's fine. I'm not being hard on the mods, I was being hard on you. If you obviously did something this retarded, then you obviously have learned from your mistake - no big deal you're still alive, but I just don't buy it.
 
RADAR said:
Well ,whats done is done. since you ran a huge frontload and i emphasize "HUGE" the next thing is concentrating to keep blood levels stable.
Approx 5-6 days from the day of the shot start tapering,
Next shot should be 750mgs thats a sufficient dosage just so you don't mess up that should read at the "3" mark on the barrel of the pin.
After that taper the next shot should be 500mgs "2" mark

THen i would continue at that dosage thruout!
I've seen worst mistakes so don't worry about this one.
RADAR
whats the worst mistake youve seen radar?
 
Solidrock1951 said:
I'm new to digitals - just got it awhile back. If I can figure out how to put a pic on this site - but really man - if you need to see one that bad just go to any hospital - like I said in my earlier post in Vancouver we have needle exchanges and they give you any kind of works you want for free no questions asked.
Why would a needle exchange program have 10cc syringes? Just curious, it doesn't make any sense to me.
 
c17 said:
whats the worst mistake youve seen radar?



One of the worst was this kid years ago got into some issues with his parents, stupid teenager decided to take revenge upon himself (Why? I'll never know) by swallowing a whole bottle 100 ct Dbol tabs.He bloated like the Mitchelin man for a week other than that there were no other sides except some acne here & there.
Another reason why teenagers shouldn't have access to gear.
There are others however i can't think of them right now.

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
One of the worst was this kid years ago got into some issues with his parents, stupid teenager decided to take revenge upon himself (Why? I'll never know) by swallowing a whole bottle 100 ct Dbol tabs.He bloated like the Mitchelin man for a week other than that there were no other sides except some acne here & there.
Another reason why teenagers shouldn't have access to gear.
There are others however i can't think of them right now.

RADAR

like sparetire " mitchelin man" ha ha...
ya i read a story years back about a kid getting picked on.. and his uncle has some race horses. he told the kid to just take some of this..
and gave the kid the amount required for the hourse...
it said the kid gained 40lbs... and got GI bleed .. spent some time in the hospital.... I am sure crazy shit like that does happen once in a while crazy shit though..
 
Mr_MAX said:
like sparetire " mitchelin man" ha ha...
ya i read a story years back about a kid getting picked on.. and his uncle has some race horses. he told the kid to just take some of this..
and gave the kid the amount required for the hourse...
it said the kid gained 40lbs... and got GI bleed .. spent some time in the hospital.... I am sure crazy shit like that does happen once in a while crazy shit though..
hmmmm...
http://www.anabolicsteroids.com/anatest.html
 
Hey guys - man am I feeling my oats. Did my 750mg shot today - 5 days after last 2500mg mistake and feeling no sides. See doc on wed. I was wondering if instead of just going HCG 1000 3 x a week for 3 weeks at the end of my cycle before doing the Nolva for 3 should I consider doing some midterm PCT because of my 5 gram mistake?

And I wanted to clear up one point for a reader that was under the impression I had shot 5 grams in two days - it was 2.5 a week, they were a week apart - it was my second and third shots, my first was a 200mg bottle of DELETESTRYL, a human grade test. Just wanted to clear that up, it was stuck in the back of my mind.

Thanx fellas
 
Solidrock1951 said:
Hey guys - man am I feeling my oats. Did my 750mg shot today - 5 days after last 2500mg mistake and feeling no sides. See doc on wed. I was wondering if instead of just going HCG 1000 3 x a week for 3 weeks at the end of my cycle before doing the Nolva for 3 should I consider doing some midterm PCT because of my 5 gram mistake?

And I wanted to clear up one point for a reader that was under the impression I had shot 5 grams in two days - it was 2.5 a week, they were a week apart - it was my second and third shots, my first was a 200mg bottle of DELETESTRYL, a human grade test. Just wanted to clear that up, it was stuck in the back of my mind.

Thanx fellas

Probably a good idea to throw in some HCG half way through if your nuts were shocked from the initial heavy doses. You know, I think you're gonna be just fine. Hopefully you won't have to rely on heavy doses for the rest of your steroid career. If you're gonna tell the doc about what happened, tell us what he says about how to recover your hormone balance and homeostasis. Most of the vets on here probably know more than a doc would about this stuff, but curious to see what he says.
 
krishna said:
Probably a good idea to throw in some HCG half way through if your nuts were shocked from the initial heavy doses. You know, I think you're gonna be just fine. Hopefully you won't have to rely on heavy doses for the rest of your steroid career. If you're gonna tell the doc about what happened, tell us what he says about how to recover your hormone balance and homeostasis. Most of the vets on here probably know more than a doc would about this stuff, but curious to see what he says.

Well believe it or not my nuts weren't shocked but I think I will go with a couple shots midcycle like you say. I'll have my test results before then from the doc so I will still have time to amend things need be. And yes I will let you know what the doc says. I'm not worried too much because I weathered this so well but it being such a shock to the system you never never know whats going on underneath that isn't registering. I sure would be a shitload more worried without you guys comments and help...thanx for being here!
 
Solidrock1951 said:
Hey guys - man am I feeling my oats. Did my 750mg shot today - 5 days after last 2500mg mistake and feeling no sides. See doc on wed. I was wondering if instead of just going HCG 1000 3 x a week for 3 weeks at the end of my cycle before doing the Nolva for 3 should I consider doing some midterm PCT because of my 5 gram mistake?

750mg SHOT!!!, dude you need to chill. So as of now you've done 5 grams in two weeks and now 5 days later you just did a 750mg shot. I don't know what to say.

If you going to run 750mg o test on your first cycle then you need run st least 1000iu's a week of HCG with it...be merry. :rolleyes:

SQ-
 
genarr3 said:
Why would a needle exchange program have 10cc syringes? Just curious, it doesn't make any sense to me.


Actually you are right - they don't have much use for them and that was what they told me when they more than happilly handed them over to me - someone who was willing to take some of them off their hands. Damned if I know why they would supply them with monsters like that myself. I know needle users myself ( drugs other than steroids ) and I know they never haver had an occasion to use anything larger than a 3cc, although I had a friend years ago that used to take methedone and boil it down ( because they mix it with juice so you can't fix it ) and he would have been happy to have one of these babies to fix it all in one shot with, but other than that I have never heard of another use for them myself.
 
Sir-Que said:
750mg SHOT!!!, dude you need to chill. So as of now you've done 5 grams in two weeks and now 5 days later you just did a 750mg shot. I don't know what to say.

If you going to run 750mg o test on your first cycle then you need run st least 1000iu's a week of HCG with it...be merry. :rolleyes:

SQ-

I guess you haven't been reading all the posts on this thread. This was Radars taper program he set up for me so that I could keep my bloodlevels rather stable. He further advised I start my next week with Mon. and Thur. shots of 250mg each. I am doing everything that everyone sensible advises for me after a BIG error like this one. If I survive this I can guarantee you there will never be another mishap of this gargantuan size labelled with my name on it. My research from now on will be impeccable and I am listening to the wisest councel I can decipher. Thanx for your concern though my friend. I may even cut my cycle to 250mg per week after I do the next week at 250mg x 2 just to be safe. Some of you think I'm just a crazy asshole but I was real scared when I found out what I had done to myself and I am still not looking forward to the results of the tests my doctor will be doing on Wednesday. The only thing that has lessened my horror is the bros here like Radar that have helped to see me through this so far. I am pretty much of a loner and that is probably part of the reason this happened in the first place but I am not averse to taking good direction when it is given and believe me my ear will be to tracks from now on like never before. Cheers!
 
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Solidrock1951 said:
Thanx bro - night all



Also i'm going to warn you the Dr. will probably frown on what you're doing (esp with steroids in the news) and tell you to stop, plus he will probably tell you the advice you recieved here is wrong, (some Drs have no clue about steroids)
Just prepairing you for whats ahead.
Drs are so unpredictable.


RADAR
 
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RADAR said:
Also i'm going to warn you the Dr. will probably frown on what you're doing (esp with steroids in the news) and tell you to stop, plus he will probably tell you the avice you recieved here is wrong, (some Drs have no clue about steroids)
Just prepairing you for whats ahead.
Drs are so unpredictable.


RADAR


I hear you. I went to this dermatologist last week in order to obtain some antibiotics for some mild shoulder and back acne. As soon as I took off my shirt the guy started questioning me about steroids. I denied using gear, however this guy kept going on and on about it. However, my regular doc(GP) is pretty cool and laid back about juice.
 
RADAR said:
Also i'm going to warn you the Dr. will probably frown on what you're doing (esp with steroids in the news) and tell you to stop, plus he will probably tell you the advice you recieved here is wrong, (some Drs have no clue about steroids)
Just prepairing you for whats ahead.
Drs are so unpredictable.


RADAR

I recently went to the doc. Wasn't feeling good at all. Told him I was on 500mg of test.

Get this. He says, "That's It? You're not taking anything else?"

"No," I said.

So then he says "500mg is not that much. I don't think you're taking enough to grow."

Fuckin dude was like 65, tellin me to hit the sauce harder. Took my BP, and we talked about stuff. I was really surprised. I actually ended my cycle early, and I hope he's not too disappointed.
 
I saw my doc today. He wasn't all that surprised about me being on juice and he didn't seem to think I had anything to worry about being on just test enan while doing such a large dose by accident. In fact he started telling me that HE is thinking of starting to supplement himself with test, although he is thinking of doing the patches, or stick on shit. He is in his late 40's I think and he wants more energy for lifting weights and skiing. He was really kool about the whole thing, he thinks that the shit should be more available for people. He is going to check my testosterone levels and my liver enzymes. Like I said the best thing is he didn't seem to think I could do any damage from just doing test enan alone, even if I did shoot 5 grams in two weeks my first go at it. I walked out of there feeling like a saved man I must say. He was surprised that I didn't have any problems with my nuts, or that I didn't get an outbreak of acne on my back. My body seems to get along quite well with testosterone and it sure gives my workouts a f*#kin' boost so if my liver enzymes arn't all wacky I am going to be one happy camper cause I don't really plan to go on to other roids for some time to come. You guys who told me that the doc couldn't do anything for me anyway, insinuating that there would be no outside ( or should I say inside ) damage to worry about were obviously right on. I'm glad I ran it by him though just to be safe. I'm cutting back to 500mg a week - 250 mon./250 thur. - from here on in. I'm looking big and feeling strong. Thanx for the support fellas.

P.S. I have had a couple of private messages sent to me but am having a problem with my computer and cannot open some stuff right now, including these messages, so sorry I cannot answer your queries.
 
Boston Strangler said:
Holy shit!!!! I am in shock.....


-BS


This was in response to my shooting over 5 grams of test in the same glute in two weeks .............

It hurt for three days after the first 2.5 and for a week after the second, but shit you should see the gains I got in those first two weeks so there was some good came of this error.
 
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Solidrock1951 said:
I saw my doc today. He wasn't all that surprised about me being on juice and he didn't seem to think I had anything to worry about being on just test enan while doing such a large dose by accident. In fact he started telling me that HE is thinking of starting to supplement himself with test, although he is thinking of doing the patches, or stick on shit. He is in his late 40's I think and he wants more energy for lifting weights and skiing. He was really kool about the whole thing, he thinks that the shit should be more available for people. He is going to check my testosterone levels and my liver enzymes. Like I said the best thing is he didn't seem to think I could do any damage from just doing test enan alone, even if I did shoot 5 grams in two weeks my first go at it. I walked out of there feeling like a saved man I must say. He was surprised that I didn't have any problems with my nuts, or that I didn't get an outbreak of acne on my back. My body seems to get along quite well with testosterone and it sure gives my workouts a f*#kin' boost so if my liver enzymes arn't all wacky I am going to be one happy camper cause I don't really plan to go on to other roids for some time to come. You guys who told me that the doc couldn't do anything for me anyway, insinuating that there would be no outside ( or should I say inside ) damage to worry about were obviously right on. I'm glad I ran it by him though just to be safe. I'm cutting back to 500mg a week - 250 mon./250 thur. - from here on in. I'm looking big and feeling strong. Thanx for the support fellas.

P.S. I have had a couple of private messages sent to me but am having a problem with my computer and cannot open some stuff right now, including these messages, so sorry I cannot answer your queries.



At least you now know some of the advice you get here is solid,glad you had a good level minded DR.

Now enjoy the rest of the cycle.

RADAR
 
RADAR said:
At least you now know some of the advice you get here is solid,glad you had a good level minded DR.

Now enjoy the rest of the cycle.

RADAR


Thanx Radar. I've gained a lot of respect for you throughout my ordeal, as well as for others that have lent their good advice. I had a good gut feeling about most of the advice I received here and most of the time that is good enough for me, but yes it is good to hear about health issues from your own doctor as well just to solify issues.
 
Haha...glad everything is cool Rock! Sounds like you got a good doc, you should keep him around. If he's gonna use gear too, I'm sure he'll be glad to run all your tests and monitor your health during your cycles and PCT. Damn bro, everything is cool, you're gettin huge, and you even got your own steroid doc. Looks like things are finally lookin up. Take care, and use wisely....peace!
 
Solidrock - the pharma business is very thorough for exactly this reason. People can die when they misunderstand instructions or don't follow directions (this includes trained nurses in hospitals screwing up units or a calculation). This extends straight down to the labels, packaging, and inserts. Give them a read. The essential plain english ingredient is dosage in "mg/ml". Even single dose 1ml vials are labled as such - the units are clear and unobscure. I've read your posts, you are decently educated and not dumb. It's an honest mistake (albeit I've never heard of this happening before and certainly not to this degree). Luckily with roids you can get away with a lot. While I would certainly disregard a lot of the negative comments, you really need to examine how this happened. I get the feeling you wanted to do this stuff so badly that you rushed when you really should have waited. You didn't read the boxes, labels, or package inserts over this entire time until someone pointed out the dosage issue. That strikes me as careless and even a bit odd as the first time people get a bunch of drugs they generally spend a lot of time 'playing' with them and looking everything over. I don't know exactly how this happened and I imagine you'll be okay given nothing has developed yet but I wouldn't simply write it off and move on. Units on meds are important and very very clear for a reason. Somehow this got missed and I think a constructive use of time would be to figure out how exactly that happened to someone who is mature and writes with a fair amount of eloquence so is obviously decently intelligent. I'm not coming down on you but the next time you think you know enough and are excited to do something, the penalty for error may be severe. I would try to understand exactly what behavioral factors played a part in this before casually writing it off as a simple mistake.
 
Madcow2 said:
Solidrock - the pharma business is very thorough for exactly this reason. People can die when they misunderstand instructions or don't follow directions (this includes trained nurses in hospitals screwing up units or a calculation). This extends straight down to the labels, packaging, and inserts. Give them a read. The essential plain english ingredient is dosage in "mg/ml". Even single dose 1ml vials are labled as such - the units are clear and unobscure. I've read your posts, you are decently educated and not dumb. It's an honest mistake (albeit I've never heard of this happening before and certainly not to this degree). Luckily with roids you can get away with a lot. While I would certainly disregard a lot of the negative comments, you really need to examine how this happened. I get the feeling you wanted to do this stuff so badly that you rushed when you really should have waited. You didn't read the boxes, labels, or package inserts over this entire time until someone pointed out the dosage issue. That strikes me as careless and even a bit odd as the first time people get a bunch of drugs they generally spend a lot of time 'playing' with them and looking everything over. I don't know exactly how this happened and I imagine you'll be okay given nothing has developed yet but I wouldn't simply write it off and move on. Units on meds are important and very very clear for a reason. Somehow this got missed and I think a constructive use of time would be to figure out how exactly that happened to someone who is mature and writes with a fair amount of eloquence so is obviously decently intelligent. I'm not coming down on you but the next time you think you know enough and are excited to do something, the penalty for error may be severe. I would try to understand exactly what behavioral factors played a part in this before casually writing it off as a simple mistake.


Very wise advice and very eloquently written yourself. Thankyou and I can assure you a mistake like this will not occur in my lifetime again.
 
First of all why are you doing that much test your first cycle? That was a waste of money because you could've made exceptional gains from lower dosages! Second you said you did 26cc in 21/2 weeks? Are you sure? Ae you doing a max androgen phase or what? Don't mean to be a jerk but I just want to understand what your thinking is about AAS usage. I agree with Radar. Wait it out and if you feel an increase in temperature and your heart starts racing over the next few days I would seek medical attention and I would strongly suggest you re-evaluate your cycle. Hope this helps.



Solidrock1951 said:
Ok I screwed up. I been hitting the same glute cause I thought it was ok if you only did it once a week...but I guess I didn't do enough research cause I thought you were to hit the whole 10cc in one whack/same spot. The 1st shot ( of this my 1st cycle ) I hit three times cause I only had the 3cc syringes but the last two weeks I have hit 10cc of QV test enan in the same glute and it is a bit swollen still three days after my last shot and still hurts a bit although it seems to be subsiding. All of these last 3 weeks shots have been in the same glute so that is like 26cc in the same glute over the last 2 - 2 1/2 weeks. Am I in need of immediate medical attention or might this thing work itself out? I know enough to stay away from this glute for a couple of weeks and am hoping it might clear itself up. What do you guys suggest this ignorant f@#k (me) should do? Can I wait it out or should I rush off to emergency tomorrow? Live and learn ehe?
 
cougar8 said:
First of all why are you doing that much test your first cycle? That was a waste of money because you could've made exceptional gains from lower dosages! Second you said you did 26cc in 21/2 weeks? Are you sure? Ae you doing a max androgen phase or what? Don't mean to be a jerk but I just want to understand what your thinking is about AAS usage. I agree with Radar. Wait it out and if you feel an increase in temperature and your heart starts racing over the next few days I would seek medical attention and I would strongly suggest you re-evaluate your cycle. Hope this helps.


Read the rest of the posts on this thread. That should answer your questions.
 
cougar8 said:
First of all why are you doing that much test your first cycle? That was a waste of money because you could've made exceptional gains from lower dosages! Second you said you did 26cc in 21/2 weeks? Are you sure? Ae you doing a max androgen phase or what? Don't mean to be a jerk but I just want to understand what your thinking is about AAS usage. I agree with Radar. Wait it out and if you feel an increase in temperature and your heart starts racing over the next few days I would seek medical attention and I would strongly suggest you re-evaluate your cycle. Hope this helps.




Hes had plenty of time now...hes out of the woods & ready to roll.

RADAR
 
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