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DNP Diary

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osujudoman

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I posted this at Anabolic Review but thought some of you may be interested in seeing it here as well.

DNP Diary - 6/30/02

Ok guys, I've done about 2 months worth of research for running a dnp cycle and I'm starting up tonight. I plan on taking 200mg/day (powder, not crystalized) for the first 3 days, then bumping up to 400mg for the remaining 4-5 days. I have no intentions of going higher than 400mg unless I feel nothing after the 4th or 5th day.

I've got my supplements ready. I'm going to be taking about 2500mg of vitamin C, 600mg ALA, 1200IU vit E, 1500mg magnesium, Tyler's liver detox, 475mg cranberry extract, 3000mg quertecin (to combat rash/alergies), and at least 2 gallons of water.

I'll be lifting on M-W-F. I want to keep as close to my routine as possible but I won't push it if I don't feel comfortable with it. Cardio will be kept light, lasting 15-30 minutes each morning or until I'm too lethargic or hot to handle it.

I've got my fans aligned next to my bed and the AC is set at around 65 degrees. I got a pillow from the hospital that is both stain and fluid resistant (I anticipate night sweats) and I've lined my mattress with old beach towels underneath the sheets since I don't want to ruin the bedding.

This afternoon I stocked up on fuit and cut up a huge bowl full of watermelon, pineapple, grapes, honeydoo, and strawberries and left it in the fridge to chill. I recently restocked on protien powder and chicken breasts so I'll be eating as clean as possible while on the cycle.

I'll be working every day but, luckily for me, my job in IT is located in a computer room that's VERY cool for the purpose of keeping the computer equipment from overheating. The room is usually so cold that a sweatshirt is necessary but I'm planning to wear a t-shirt and shorts (I can get away with shorts since I'm wearing a knee brace) for the entire week.

As a precaution, I bought a pocket-size thermometer to make sure I never get over 104 degrees.

It's 5:30pm Eastern time here. I'll take the first 200mg cap tonight at 11pm.

I currently weight 225 at somewhere near 15%bf. I'm looking to drop 10lbs if possible.

Gotta admit, I'm excited and nervous at the same time.

I'll keep everyone updated on the progress.

- Judoman
 
Japanese machine said:
wow a responsible one you are. alot of reseach went in to this cycle. good work. i wish everyone would do the same.
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I agree- the more research I do the more comfortable I am with everything.... Good job on looking out for yourself- best of luck!
 
Thanks for the compliments guys...

7/1/02 - Day 1

Ok, it's been more than 16hrs since I took my first 200mg cap. I was nervous as hell before I took it but I figure I'm reasonable enough to stop dosing and head to a doctor if anything goes too crazy.

As for how things have gone so far... I haven't felt much, if anything. I haven't been sweating any more than usual. I just took my temperature and I was at 98.3 degrees (I was 97.6 earlier today). This isn't all that surprising since I'm always cooler than the normal 98.5 by a degree or more. That being the case, if the dnp raises my temp by very much I'm sure I'll feel it quickly. The only thing I HAVE noticed is that I'm slightly dehydrated and that I've been very thirsty all day. As of now I've already polished off about 2 gallons of water.

I worked out at 11:30 am with a heavy back routine consisting of deads, bent rows, one-arm dumbbell rows, and some cable work (various grip pulldowns and rows). I got a little light headed during my deads so I chose not to do any cardio immediately following the lifting. Instead, I came back home and ate a chicken breast and some spanish rice and took my first round of vitamins/supps for the day. I plan on going back to the gym at 5 to do some about a half an hour worth of cardio.

So far, everything is fine. No noticable sides, no increased temp. I'm gonna take another 200mg cap tonight and, if my research from the boards is right, I should start to feel the heat sometime during the night. Even if my temp doesn't rise tonight, I'll keep the dosage the same for one more day just to rule out any possible allergies I may have to the DNP since it should still be accumulating in my system and the half-life is so long.

On the 4th day, assuming that I'm not getting any dramatic sides from 200mg, I'll up the dosage to 400mg/day (200mg at 5pm, 200mg @11pm).

I still haven't determined whether I want to run the whole cycle for 7 days or 8, but I think that'll depend on how much I can tolerate.

On a side note, a good friend of mine went to the hospital about 6 years ago from a DNP overdose. He wanted to drop a ton of weight and he got impatient with how fast the dnp was working. After starting out with 2 days of 400mg, he jumped to 600mg for a day, then doubled that for the next two days at 1200mg. On the 6th day, he woke up with the rash and there was blood in his urine. He went to the ER and his platelet count had dropped into the single digits. He was an idiot about how he took the dnp but nonetheless it still nearly killed him. He swears by its effectiveness but I keep his experience in the back of my head as a reminder to stay rational about the drug and its seriousness.

Talk to everyone tomorrow.

- Judoman
 
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7/2/02 - Day 2 (part 1)

This is the second day of my dnp cycle. I've taken only 2 caps so far; 200mg on Sunday night and another 200mg on Monday night (last night). So far, the only side I may be getting that leads me to believe that the dnp is working is the fact that I'm dehydrated very easily. I've been checking my temperature and it hasn't risen at all. In fact, I just took my temp and I'm at 97.6 degrees. Earlier this morning I was at 96.7 degrees.

This leads me to an interesting question that may impact how much the dnp affects me. I've read posts by some of our vets here who have said that a tell-tale sign of your t3 being depleted at the end of a dnp cycle is that your body temp drops back down to normal. Is there a possiblity that my natural t3 level is low to begin with, and that's why my normal body temp is lower than the traditional 98.6 degrees?

That's just pure speculation on my part. After all, my energy level is always pretty good and having a body temperature that's lower than 98.6 is common for me.

As for why I'm not feeling anything from the dnp, I have a few ideas. One, I may just have a natural tolerance to the chemical. This doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me since it's supposed to affect a person at the cellular level but it's an idea. Another thing could be that it simply hasn't built up enough yet. I've only taken a grand total of 400mg since 12am Monday morning. The only other reason I can think of would be that my caps are underdosed. I have faith in my source and his rep for good dnp so I'm ruling out that possibility. I'm most inclined to go with the second option; that there just hasn't been enough accumulated in my system yet for me to feel noticably different.

I'm still adament about my third dose being only 200mg. I'll take that cap later tonight. If I don't feel any differences by tomorrow night, if I'm not showing signs of allergic reaction, or if I do feel something but it's mild, I'll go on as planned and up my intake to 400mg taken in two doses a few hours apart.

Like I said, I haven't felt anything that would indicate that the dnp is working thus far. I've been warm and lightly clammy/sweaty at times but that's normal for me since I tend to warm up easily as it is. I'm also prone to dehydration, so waking up with a dry throat and thirsty isn't out of the ordinary either.

Who knows... I may just need a higher dose to get the full benefit out of dnp. Forum bro Sk* was having the same problems on his last cycle of it as well. I believe he said that he didn't really feel anything till he hit 600mg or 750mg (the higher end of the spectrum for many). There was, however, some question as to whether his caps were under dosed but it could've just been how his body reacted to the substance. I may be in the same boat. I believe I'll have a better idea of how I respond to DNP in the next two days; 200mg tonight and 400mg throughout tomorrow.

I'll check back in later and update with any progress.

- Judoman
 
People who feel something the first few days of a DNP cycle are either a) using an obscenely high dosage, or b) experienced users who have it built up in their systems already from previous cycles. Although B kind of goes along with A.

Don't take a lack of being knocked on your ass immediately as an indication that it's not working - 200 mg is a responsible, conservative dose, and you're only two days into your cycle. Shoot, I usually feel like a million bucks until day 4 - don't even need ECA. ;) Just wait until all of the extracellular water drops off, 5-7 days after you pop your last cap, to judge the magic of DNP.

Good luck with your cycle, and keep us updated.
 
yeah dont get all impatient and pop a 600mg day too soon. I bumped it to 400mg on my 3rd day, after not feeling a damn thing, and still didnt feel sweaty or too shitty until about day 7. However, the day after I went 400mg I got a rash on my hands. So if u bump up the dosage, u may want to play it safe and bump up the quercetin too. 200mg dnp days I was fine with 1g of Quercetin, but once I bumped to 400mg, that wasnt enough, obviously , cause my hands got all sheitty. Im usually real tolerant to just about anything too(never a hint of gyno, acne, etc on gear, and it seems to take more recreational drugs for me to get a buzz than anyone Ive met too), but the dnp rash still got my supposedly tolerant ass, so beware and remember too much is safer than too little with the quercetin.
 
Update

7/2/02 - Day 2

part 2

Took my dose a few hours early today. Still haven't felt any hotter, no real sweating. I'm still thirsty as hell and I've got the shits (softer stool than usual). I've felt compelled to scratch phantom itches a few times but nothing serious and no visible rashes or bumps anywhere.

Tomorrow, as planned, I'll up it to 400mg (200@5pm, 200@11pm).

One thing that has me wondering is that every write-up on dnp talks about how carbs make you burn hotter. I may very well be experiencing carb cravings, but I don't feel any different during or after eating them.

As for appearance, I don't feel I look any different or have dropped any weight. I haven't stepped on a scale to confirm that but I'm going by the mirror since I expect water retention to keep my weight seemingly high till after the cycle ends.

Ceebs, what kinds of sides have you felt leading up to day 4? Anything at all? And after the cycle is over, how have you fared as far as fat loss?

nhbgorilla - I hear ya brother. I'm still playing it smart and sticking to schedule. No sense in rushing things and messing myself all up. I read your thread and posted on it as well. I'm real interested in your question about the effectiveness of a longer cycle at lower doses (11 days @200mg) Vs. a shorter cycle at somewhat higher doses (5-6 days @400mg). This is assuming, of course, that the sides are bearable at the higher dosage and wouldn't prevent you from going that route. As for the quertecin, I'm at about 1.5 grams/day right now and I may bump it up to 2 grams tomorrow for my first 400mg day. I'll let ya know if I run into any of the same problems you had.

- Judoman
 
Update

7/3/02 - Day 3

4th dose coming up. I was sweating a little more in bed last night but nothing uncomfortable. I woke up a few times to piss and when I went to lay down I noticed the sheets and pillow were both a little damp.

Most of what I'm still feeling is increased thirst from dehydration. I'm trying not to let it get that far but dnp really sucks the water out of me. The two biggest sides I've noticed thus far are 1) increased water loss/thirst and 2) a diuretic-like response. Like ECA, the dnp has me going to the restroom to piss and shit like crazy. I'm not kidding when I say at least once an hour, sometimes worse depending on how much water I'm trying to replenish with drinking. Heat has been minimal and certainly hasn't been uncomfortable. I've had some phantom itching for the last day but I've checked and there isn't any marks/rashes/bumps to speak of so the querticen is doing its job well.

Speaking of the querticen, next time I'm getting that shit in caps! It absolutely sucks to take a teaspoon of that powder with anything. It doesn't mix with water, protien shake, nothing. I tried mashing it into some rice I was eating and it made the rice taste funky. Finally I just said to hell with it and I take a heaping teaspoon and just dump it onto my tongue. Before the taste and the dryness (which, by the way, will give you dry heaves) hit me, I take a mouthfull of cold water and 'swish' it around in my mouth to pick up all the querticen and make it easier to swallow. Then I take another mouthfull of water and repeat the process to make sure I got all that shit rinsed out of my mouth.

This morning I went to the gym at 11:30 to lift and do cardio. I was feeling kinda lethargic when I woke up so I took an ECA stack to give me a bit of a boost. I haven't taken eca for over a month so the energy burst was a welcome addition. I was able to lift very intense but I kept my weights somewhat low compared to usual. Instead of 4 heavy sets, I opted for 6 sets of each lift at low-moderate weight. After I finished with my lift, I jumped on an EFX machine for 20 minutes of light cardio to keep my heart going and burn some extra cals. I was sweating like a beast by the end of it but that's normal for me anyway. Overall, my workout was very good today but I credit the ECA for giving me the boost I needed. I'm definatly not looking forward to when I gotta drop some ECA just to get up and moving, let alone do a workout.

As for todays dosage, I'm scheduled for 400mg. I already took the first 200mg cap at 2pm and I'll take the other 200mg later tonight around 10pm. Tonight I fully expect to soak my sheets. Usually I wouldn't be looking forward to that but I can make an exception for this! I'm most concerned to see how my sides fare after I take my second cap. This will be the point where I know whether I can handle more than the minimum dose. If I can, I've still got 4 more days to go at 400mg and I hope to lose the most fat during that time.

As usual, I'll keep everyone updated on how I'm feeling and what my progress is like. Oh, and feel free to post any questions if you're wanting to start your own cycle of DNP but you want some first-hand reports before you begin.

- Judoman
 
Bro this is a great thread. You've done your homework, keep us updated. I'm finding all this very interesting since I'm going to be starting DNP in the near future. Best of luck. You have Karma. :)
 
OsuJudoman deserves karma from everyone.THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE FELLAS...This should serve as a text book example for newbies or anyone even CONSIDERING a DNP run.
 
Just thought I'd help out.

I appreciate the kind words guys. I guess the reason I'm doing this is because I did a TON of research before I started the cycle and I figured this could help out some of the forum bros who've been considering DNP for themselves. I know with me, I was just as interested in first-hand accounts (maybe even more so) than I was with technical info. I also wanted to make sure I was doing this right. I know a guy personally who got messed up pretty bad from botching a run of dnp so I didn't want to experience the same thing. I'm doing everything in my power to be prepared and share what I learn. And since I'm a rookie to the board, making a post like this is also a way to meet some people and make some friends.

Anyway, thanks again and hope everyone enjoys and learns from what I'm going through.... if it ends up being hell by the end of the week then you'll know about it!

- Judoman
 
osujudoman said:
I posted this at Anabolic Review but thought some of you may be interested in seeing it here as well.

I've got my supplements ready. I'm going to be taking about 2500mg of vitamin C, 600mg ALA, 1200IU vit E, 1500mg magnesium, Tyler's liver detox, 475mg cranberry extract, 3000mg quertecin (to combat rash/alergies), and at least 2 gallons of water.

- Judoman
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Ok I have a question about quercetin. Is this like an herbal form of benadryl? Where can you get it at?
 
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Ok I have a question about quercetin. Is this like an herbal form of benadryl? Where can you get it at?
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Quercetin inhibits the formulation and granulation of histamines.It can be found at almost any health food store.
 
HUCKLEBERRY FINNaplex said:
OsuJudoman deserves karma from everyone.THIS IS EXACTLY HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE FELLAS...This should serve as a text book example for newbies or anyone even CONSIDERING a DNP run.
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I agree- I have been considering a run with DNP and this is indeed going to make it easier on me.... Great work OSUJUDOMAN!!!

Keep up the great work and keep us all posted!;)
 
you probably wont feel any heat until day 3, but stick with 200mg per day. also, dnp does not effect your body temperature, so it will not rise. the heat that is given off is from atp uncoupling.
 
gotgear? said:
you probably wont feel any heat until day 3, but stick with 200mg per day. also, dnp does not effect your body temperature, so it will not rise. the heat that is given off is from atp uncoupling.
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gotgear are you recommending an 8 day cycle of just 200mg/day throughout? I just took my first cap tonight and thought day 4 you should kick it up a dose.
 
update

7/3/02 - Day 3

part 2

Went back to the gym for Judo practice tonight. I've had a hurt knee so I had no intention of actually rolling, but I wanted to help coach and be there out of respect. After sitting in the OSU wrestling room, however, I'm not so sure I'd have wanted to grapple even if I wasn't on DNP or had a bum knee.... the temperature was 95 degrees in there. With a heavy double-weeve gi, it's surely over 100 degrees. I was just sitting there and the sweat was pouring off me.

In my last post I'd said that I took my first 200mg of the day at around 1pm. Shortly thereafter, I began to feel very flushed. Looking at my arms/chest/legs, there wasn't any discoloration or reddening, but my face was very flushed for a short time.... like I was blushing really badly. When I'm outside my apartment it's hard to tell how much the DNP is working because it's so damn hot around here. Still, it's not unbearable and the horror stories of outright miserable heat have thus far been unfounded. That may change after I take my second 200mg cap at 10pm, but as of now it doesn't feel like I'm hot so much as it feels like I'm IN heat. The difference, if I can explain it better, is like having a fever Vs standing in the sun. With a fever I can feel the heat radiating from me and I want to strip down to cool off. With what I'm feeling now, it's like I'm walking into a hot room. Sweat beads up on my face and arms and it's uncomfortable but not unbearable or even too annoying.

Some sides that I've noticed that I do have are the yellowing body fluids. Even after drinking a ton of water, my urine is still flourescent yellow. I spit and there may be a bit of yellow in my saliva as well. Hell, I rubbed one off last night just for the sake of it and I swear to god that even that had a slight tint of yellow. The one thing that isn't yellow, amazingly enough, is my sweat. I even checked by wearing a white shirt to work out in today. I soaked it completely but it's only a damper (is that a word?) shade of white than it was before.

Still urinating pretty frequently and stool has softened to the point of almost continual diurhea(sp?). Just one more way for me to loose water I guess.

I'm definately feeling more lethargic now than I was during the last few days. I can't even tell you how good that ECA felt this morning! To hell with speed, crack, weed, or whatever your drug of choice... give me some ephedrine and I'm good to go! lol

I think this is it for me today. If anything happens after I take the second dose but before I go to sleep, I'll jump on and update again. If not, I'll talk to everyone tomorrow!

- Judoman
 
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7/3/02 - day 3

part 3

Wow, looks like 400mg did the trick! I'm not exactly sweating like crazy but I can literally feel myself radiating heat. At this rate, however, I can see myself being completely wasted by Sunday (my last dose). I'll definately need the time to recover after that.

I also notice that at this dosage that the effect of 'carbs feeding the fire' is quite noticable. I had some french fries earlier in the evening and I swear I was burning for the next 2 hours or so.

Also, just to make note of it, I took my temperature a little bit ago when I was feeling extremely hot and the readout was exactly 98.6 degrees. This may seem strange to some of you but if you've been following along with my little diary then you'd know that my body temp normally runs relatively cool, like a little over 96 degrees. The DNP has risen my body temp a full 2 degrees F.

This got me thinking... if real damage to your organs/brain isn't done till you hit around 103 or 104, I could conceivabley take a much higher dosage than many because I run so cool to begin with. However, seeing as how I feel pretty uncomfortable now (not unbearable, but certainly uncomfortable), I can't imagine burning much hotter. Who knows though... even as hot as I am, I'm experiencing no major sides or allergic reactions. If that continues, I may decide to up my dosage to 600mg on my final day just to finish things off with a bang.

Even as I'm sitting here typing this up, my forearm is sticking to my desk from a sheen of sweat. My experience thus far with DNP has been a very favorable one. I really think all the planning has paid off in spades. Of course the real truth will be known this time next week when I'll have shed the water I'm retaining.

One last thing before I go to sleep... my fucking fan broke today! I came home from the gym at like 7:30pm and I'd had the fan running to help circulate the air in my room. Well I walk in and it just isn't running. Of all days for the motor to burn out on me, it had to happen on my first 400mg day! Can you believe this luck? Oh well, I'll get another one tomorrow. In the meantime, I'll just crank the AC a little more to compensate.

Talk to everyone later.

- Judoman
 
Update

7/4/02 - Day 4

Happy 4th of July!

Actually, mine sucked. Our city had fireworks last night and I'd taken my second 200mg cap of DNP just before we left. By the time we got there and were watching the fireworks, I felt like my skin was melting. Needless to say, it was a very hot night.

Today I didn't do much. I wanted to do some light cardio but the gym was closed due to it being July 4th and all. That was fine with me. I used the time to run to the store and buy enough water to last me for the next few days. I know, it's kinda retarded to buy water but I absolutely hate city water. Since I moved here I've been hooked on distilled water. So anyway, I refilled 12 gallons worth of distilled water and brought them home to begin cooling them. I figure I'll go through about 12 gallons by Sunday.

The first dose of DNP today was at 2pm. Didn't feel any different after taking it. I'm still taking all my vitamins and supplements to keep the rest of me from burning away with the fat. I don't know if I'd have gotten the rashes and other allergic reactions had I not used the quercetin, but I'm glad I didn't have to find out the hard way. Still, I take a lot of the stuff each day. Easily over 3 grams total. It's kinda funny actually because the quercetin leaves bright yellow stains wherever it lands... just like dnp. I know because it looks like I drew lines on my shorts with yellow highlighter after I'd spilled a little on myself earlier.

I'm gonna take the second cap in a few hours, maybe around 8pm, unless somebody can give me reason not to. Today is my first day back at work and our room is always extremely cool because of the computer equipment. I've got on a pair of shorts, a thin shirt, and some sandals and I'm feeling fine! So if I can get the next 200mg in me and start burning while I've still got a few hours of AC left then I'll do that.

Hmmm... other than that, not much else happening. I think I can tell that my gut is getting a little smaller but it's hard to tell. I do have a concern that my protien intake isn't high enough though. I'm cutting my cals by a lot (I think... I'm eating all the time but it still doesn't seem like much) and what I do eat is clean. Still, I'm not so sure that I'm getting enough protien to preserve my muscle. If what I've read is correct, then DNP is relatively muscle-sparing anyway. If that's true then I'll be in good shape. I really can't wait till next week to see what I look like after the water drops off!

Speaking of which, should I take any time off before I start up my cycle? I should have all my stuff and have my schedule written out by then so I could technically be ready to go. Should I wait a week or so... till all the dnp is out of my system and t3 levels have risen? I'd think so but I still want the Vet's advice on this one. I'll also need some help putting together the most effective cycle I can for the gear I've got. I'll mention that more later.

Ok guys, till next time....

- Judoman
 
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7/2/02 - Day 2 (part 1)

This is the second day of my dnp cycle. I've taken only 2 caps so far; 200mg on Sunday night and another 200mg on Monday night (last night). So far, the only side I may be getting that leads me to believe that the dnp is working is the fact that I'm dehydrated very easily. I've been checking my temperature and it hasn't risen at all. In fact, I just took my temp and I'm at 97.6 degrees. Earlier this morning I was at 96.7 degrees.

This leads me to an interesting question that may impact how much the dnp affects me. I've read posts by some of our vets here who have said that a tell-tale sign of your t3 being depleted at the end of a dnp cycle is that your body temp drops back down to normal. Is there a possiblity that my natural t3 level is low to begin with, and that's why my normal body temp is lower than the traditional 98.6 degrees?

That's just pure speculation on my part. After all, my energy level is always pretty good and having a body temperature that's lower than 98.6 is common for me.

- Judoman
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When I began my first DNP cycle, my body temperature lowered to 96.8 degrees.. Never went above that for the whole cycle. About 4 days after my last dose.. my temp went back up to 97.8 - 98.0 and has remained that way since.
 
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keep us posted

hey bro, thanks for keeping us posted... i find it really interesting to actually "find out" exactly how one feels/reacts to DNP

hope your results are more than you expected bro
i am also thinking of runnin a DNP cycle............
 
Update

7/5/02 - Day 5

Almost done! I take my 2nd 200mg cap in a few minutes and then I'll only have 2 more days left to this cycle!

Today was a lot like yesterday. I woke up at 10am, dragged my lethargic ass out of bed, and made my way to the gym for a half-ass arm day. After lifting, I did about 25 total minutes of cardio and got the hell out of there.

When I'm in air conditioning it's not so bad but whenver I step outside it's like the sweat just begins pouring off me. By the time I got to work, my shirt was soaked through. Luckily I'm wearing one of those micro-fiber shirts by Under Armour that wicks the sweat away... so as soon as I hit the AC, the sweat just dried up. Last night, however, was uncomfortable as hell. I don't have any problems sleeping, but it's that the bed is always damp that pisses me off. It's made worse by the fact that the fan I've got directed at my head makes the sheets COLD as well as damp! Oh well, like I said, only 2 days to go.

Now the dissapointing news... I've been eating clean, working out, and have been getting the burn from the DNP. But when I stepped on the scale at the gym today it read that I haven't lost any weight at all! Unless I'm carrying around an incredible amount of water weight, I'm pretty let down. I dunno what my deal is because I've been eating good foods and I'm pretty sure that I'm not going much over 2000 cals/day. With an intake that low I should be dropping pounds pretty rapidly. Oh well.

This leads me to a question for the vets. I'm handling 400mg pretty well. Aside from the heat, the sweat, and a little flushing hear and there, I'm experiencing no major sides. I'm considering bumping my dose to 600mg for my last two days. Would that be a wise thing to do when I know I'm not having any problems at 400mg/day? Obviously if I had some trouble tomorrow at that high a dosage then I'd drop back down for the final day but I'm thinking that it may be a good way to finish off strong and have a high enough half-life to keep me burning into next week.

Any ideas?

- Judoman
 
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Unless I'm carrying around an incredible amount of water weight. . . .
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That's most likely the case. A friend who did DNP lost 6 pounds within 7 days AFTER he finished his DNP cycle. That's when he really was able to see the results.
 
Hope you're right

Thanks Mythos. Hopefully I'll see the loss during the week following my last last dose.

Oh, did anyone have any opinion on whether or not I should increase my dosage for my last 2 days?

Also, how long do you guys think I should wait after I finish the dnp before starting up my AS cycle? I kinda want to coincide the begining of my cycle to overlap with the anabolic rebound from the DNP. Think it'd work?

- Judoman
 
update

7/6/02 - Day 6

One day left! At first I was just excited to finish up my DNP so I could see the results. At this point I'm excited to finish up my DNP so I don't have to take any more! lol Really guys, you gotta stay focused on why you're doing this stuff because it'd be really easy to just quit or to begin eating like shit. You're already feeling pretty hot, sweaty, and miserable all the time... so combine that with a low call diet and it becomes a grueling week or so.

On the other hand, I'm thinking I handled it pretty well. My body responded favorably to the dnp and I didn't have any kinds of alergic reactions for the duration of the cycle. I've only got 2 more 200mg caps left to take and I'll do the first of those tomorrow morning when I wake up. I plan on doing some cardio so after that. With some ECA in me I can excercise and lift albeit in an abbreviated manner. My workouts are understandably at a lower intensity to avoid overheating and/or heart problems.

Once I finish my last cap tomorrow, should I do a full body workout on Monday or should I wait till Wednesday when most of the DNP will have left my body? I intend to continue eating clean this week and lifting in order to take advantage of the rebound affect. I think that if I handle it right, my results will be all the more dramatic. Does anyone have any thoughts on that? Also, nobody ever did mention whether they thought it was a good idea to wait for all the water to drain away before starting my cycle. Would I want to wait for the water to drain or should I wait till I'm sure my t3 levels have risen to normal?

Thanks guys, you've been very supportive of all this!

- Judoman
 
Update

7/7/02 - Day 7

Last Day! Well I'm done with DNP for the time being. I've got some caps left over that I may try at a later time but for now I'm going to enjoy being able to move around without feeling lethargic or sweating like a whore in church.

This last day I felt warm, but I can tell I'm either T3 depleted or damn close because my surface temperature has dropped dramatically. I'm still dehydrated all the time so I'm gonna have to syphon some water through me for the next few days to clean out.

My energy level, when boosted by ECA, is pretty good. I did a little bit of wrestling today along with about 20 minutes of cardio later in the afternoon. I was completely exhausted and sweating like a beast afterwards but I was able to complete it without giving myself a heart attack. I think had I gone up to 600mg/day then I wouldn't have beena able to do ANYTHING. I was already pushing myself and using willpower to get in the workouts that I did. At a higher dose I think I may have been bed-ridden (or not, depends on how bad I soak it with sweat)!

This whole time I didn't have what I would consider 'carb cravings' so much as I was just hungry. My diet was relatively clean and the only fast food I had was like chicken fingers and chicken fillets so it could've been much worse. Still, if I end up doing another cycle in the future I'll invest in some redux or another strong appetite suppessant to kill my hunger.

To anyone contemplating doing a DNP cycle, I advise you to stay focused! It's so easy to forget about things and to just let things slip when you're feeling like shit. Examples would be letting your diet go to hell because you're too tired/lazy to cook, not drinking enough water because you're too tired/lazy to drink, not taking your supplements and vitamins throughout the day because you're too tired/lazy to pack them up. See a trend developing here? At least in my case, I had to force myself to do the smart things further into the cycle because I could feel myself wanting to be careless due to exhaustion. Don't let that be an excuse! Do it now or you'll have either really shitty results or you'll end up with some funky reaction to the DNP.

Since I'm done actually taking the caps, my updates over the next few days will be shorter summaries of how I'm feeling, the progress of the water loss, and afterthoughts about the whole thing and what I would do differently/same if I decide to do another cycle of DNP down the road.

Glad this has helped some out and entertained others!

- Judoman
 
Thanks for the info bro, i appreciate it since im hoping to start a cycle of DNP within the next coupla months.

What cycle are you planning on running next? i was thinking of starting a bulking cycle after the DNP like i mentioned in another thread but im still unsure about this since ive heard very little about it.

Keep us updated on the results anyway bro, i hope it all works out for you.

peace.
 
osujudoman,

Did you really sweat that bad off of 400mg/day? I am on day 6 and am now taking 500mg/day and not too warm. I was thinking of upping the dose to 750mg/day for the last two days.
 
Hey guys...

Barnidge, I'm not so sure about muscle loss... I can tell I've gotten a bit smaller but at the moment I can tell if it's all fat or some muscle too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some muscle loss, however, because I'm certain that my protein intake wasn't as high as it could've (should've) been. I'll be able to give a better synopsis later this week when all the water is gone.

Testo, I plan to continue cutting with my next cycle. I'm gonna run a 2 month cycle:

Weeks 1-8 50mg Winny ED
Weeks 2-8 75mg Fina EOD
Alternating every two weeks between clen and NYC

That should keep the muscle on me, strength up, and shed fat.


Thate, I'm thinking that response to DNP dosages is totally dependent on the individual's body. I sweat like crazy even when I'm NOT on anything. I just heat up really quickly. That, combined with the DNP, had me burning like a furnace. I could've handled a higher dose since I didn't have any sides but I played it safe and still sweated like crazy. Just wondering, but did you get your DNP from the same place that SK* got his?

- Judoman
 
I'm not sure where sk* got his from, but mine is from DL. I will most likely kick up the dosage to 750mg starting tomorrow for the last two days.
 
thate said:
I'm not sure where sk* got his from, but mine is from DL. I will most likely kick up the dosage to 750mg starting tomorrow for the last two days.
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he got his from DL. i have my suppy from DL too. hows it going so far thate? any heat?
 
excellent post man!

one thing I noticed... you said you were drinking distilled water... don't do that... it's not good for you. get drinking water that still has all the good minerals in it.

Forrest
 
Re: Hey guys...

osujudoman said:

Thate, I'm thinking that response to DNP dosages is totally dependent on the individual's body. I sweat like crazy even when I'm NOT on anything. I just heat up really quickly. That, combined with the DNP, had me burning like a furnace
- Judoman
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I kind of found the same thing, but in the opposite. I usually always sweat like a motherfucker anyways, but when on dnp, I may sweat a little more, but I dont hardly realize it since Im a sweating ass motherfucker anyways. u dig? lol

by the way judoman, im on my 2nd day of 400mg/day for 5 days. I let u know my opinions on the old "200mg for 10 vs. 400mg for 5" question we had.
 
Japanese machine said:


he got his from DL. i have my suppy from DL too. hows it going so far thate? any heat?
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Yeah I am getting some mild heat, just not as much as I expected. My ass is notably sweatier but other than that I just feel a little warmer. I have a high tolerance to most drugs and I don't think DNP is an exception. I am going to kick it up a notch (750mg) for the last two days and see what happens.
 
Re: Hey guys...

osujudoman said:
Barnidge, I'm not so sure about muscle loss... I can tell I've gotten a bit smaller but at the moment I can tell if it's all fat or some muscle too. I wouldn't be surprised if there's some muscle loss, however, because I'm certain that my protein intake wasn't as high as it could've (should've) been.
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DNP is one of the more protein-sparing repartitioning agents out there. I doubt you've lost much muscle - you probably look smaller and flatter because your muscles are deglycogenated, and you're retaining lots of water. Knock on wood.

Someone in the know (Andy? Huck? Fonz?) can correct me if I'm wrong, but I'd recommend that you not do a full body workout for the anabolic rebound effect until the DNP is completely out of your system - figure at least 36 hours from your last dose. (Personally, even FLEXING is a workout in itself when I'm on.) You'll have a better workout if you wait, and if you carb up beforehand, you'll get the most wicked pump. ;) Glad to hear that your cycle went well, and I can't stress enough that everyone should put in the research that you have before trying it.
 
update

7/10/02 - 3rd day post DNP

Ceebs is right. I don't think I lost much if any muscle from the cycle. I knew that dnp was supposed to be muscle sparing but I wasn't sure if that was going to ring true since my caloric intake(especially protien) was relatively low. I did, however, do a hard back workout on Monday. That was my first day off DNP and it went relatively well. I felt strong even with the chemical still built up in my system. Yesterday I arms and got a decent lift in as well. Nothing extaordinary but still good enough to make me sore today. My chest routine was today and I felt somewhat exhausted. I'm thinking that it was from not eating enough because I felt like I had no energy at all.

I also stepped on the scale for the first time today. I came in at 217, down from 225. I'm guessing that I may still be holding some water so I expect it to drop even further over the next few days. Right now I'm concentrating on keeping protien high and getting in my lifts and cardio sessions.

To Thate, Iceman, Barnidge, Drveejay, testo, NHBGorilla, and Japanese Machine, thanks a lot guys! I know you've been following my progress through this for pretty much the entire time and you've been very supportive. Like I said several times on this thread, I'm more than willing to help out or lend some insight if anyone is planning to run their own DNP cycle. It went well for me, I believe, because I took my time and did the footwork to make sure thing were done right. I still could've done better, my diet especially, but with DNP I'm just glad I didn't end up worse off than when I started.

To Huck and Ceebs, I appreciate your support as well. I wanted this diary to be informative and your input has not only complemented it well but also has given credability and experience where I could not. I've learned a lot about DNP and anabolics over the course of the last few months of me being on this forum (first as a lurker, then as a registered poster) and I think it's only fair that rookies try to contribute whatever we can - especially after all the advice, experience, and info offered up regularly by the Mods and Vets alike.

I'll update this thread for the next few days to see if any more weight drops as water retention goes down. It'll be really interesting to see how it all turns out. Then it's time for my cutting cycle where I'll hopefully spare all of you the inconsequential details that were included here!

- Judoman
 
Congrats on the 8lb fat loss so far! Today was my last day on DNP, the last two days I took 750mg which was the perfect dosage. I burned all day long but it really bloated the shit out of me big time. I look worse than when I started, but I ate clean the whole time and did plenty of cardio and ab work. How long did it take before you started to drop the water? I was thinking of taking some dandelion root to help speed up the process.
 
To Thate, Iceman, Barnidge, Drveejay, testo, NHBGorilla, and Japanese Machine, thanks a lot guys! I know you've been following my progress through this for pretty much the entire time and you've been very supportive
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Dude, I just wanna say thankx for that informative report. Would be cool if u would update it in a few days, once u're mostly sure all water's out of your body.

For me too I was always checking it out but I havn't replied to this thread b/c I've got hardly any time.

I'm glad that u did it this seriously and became the results u wanted. This is how a dnp cycle should always be done!

Newbies...take this as an excelent example.

cheers
es
 
final update

7/14/02

Hey guys, it's been well over a week since I finished up my dnp cycle and I ended up dropping from 225 to a little over 216. Not too bad! I'm 100% certain that I can do better the next time but like I said, I'm more pleased that I came out in one piece than anything else.

If/when I do it again, I'm gonna invest in some redux before I start. I feel that the one major flaw I has was that I had a difficult time controlling my appettite. Even though I didn't pig out like some guys have claimed to have done, I did feel extremely hungry for all kinds of food (not just carbs) throughout the day. As a result, I did lots of munching. My total caloric intake on any given day was probably between 2000-2500 cals; next time I'd like to keep it to between 1500-1800/day. I know that may seem low but hey, I'm already feeling like shit anyway... being hungry isn't all that much worse.

Eliteswimmer, thanks for following along as well bro! It means a lot that so many guys have been interested in this thread, especially when mine isn't exactly the first or last 'journal-type' that's been on the board. It blew my mind to see how many views this thing has gotten for only like 60 posts. All in all, I guess people enjoyed it and found my experience somewhat informative.

Drveejay, could you drop me an email please? I want to ask you a question about something from another thread. I'm at [email protected]. Thanks!

To everyone else, take care. I'll see ya on another post!

- Judoman
 
nice work bro! glad everything worked out. Im hitting a dnp cycle in a week, and reading your daily posts definately helped ease the worries. I want to thank you for taking the time to doing this.

all the best....NOW BULK!!! lol.
 
Thanks for all of the updates bro... as I said before I have been considering a run with DNP and all of your info has been very helpful... Keep up the great work!!!
 
done with my little last 400mg/day for 5 days cycle. Ive also been taking taraxatone for the last couple days since i got finished and well, im now officially a cruiserweight. which means I now get to beat up a bunch of little small people. best entertainment available if u ask me. another small benefit? since i got knee surgery from college ball, i havent been able to dunk anymore, at least not in games. went to hoop the other day, and 15 less pounds of potatoes really helps your hops. i was dunking on cats silly. peace
 
Damn...cycle WELL DONE! Keep this bumped for all newbies to read to STRESS responsible tactics when using potentially harmful substances!

B-U-M-P !:D
 
Good stuff judo,


Just wanted to know why you took the two dosages of DNP 6hours apart instead of 12 hours apart like I have heard from some people. Thanks

Ray
 
Raynmela,

The timing on my dosing was mostly due to my time constraints. I work 2nd shift (3pm-12am). That said, I don't usually wake up till almost noon anyway. Still, I didn't want to spend all day sweating if I didn't have to so I'd take my first dose around the time that I went into work (where the AC is always on high) and I'd take the 2nd dose later that night so that it'd kick in around the time that I'm going back to bed. Since the halflife is so long, I don't think that a matter of a few hours would've made much difference anyway.

- Judoman

P.S. I just started an 8 week cycle. Winny gets ran throughout the whole thing; The first 2 weeks will have an overlap of Anadrol 50 (just to kick things off fast), and the last 6 weeks I'm runny fina at 100mg/eod. Should produce some nice strength gains and with the right diet and training should hopefully cut me up nicely.
 
Thanks Judo,

And GOod luck man!!.. I just finished a 6 week fina cycle @ 75mg ED then for the last 3 weeks I went 150mgs ED, boy can you tel the difference!. Well, try it for yourself, you wont be dissapppointed.

Ray

PS: Hope everything goes as planned bro!!..
 
osujudoman said:
Raynmela,

The timing on my dosing was mostly due to my time constraints. I work 2nd shift (3pm-12am). That said, I don't usually wake up till almost noon anyway. Still, I didn't want to spend all day sweating if I didn't have to so I'd take my first dose around the time that I went into work (where the AC is always on high) and I'd take the 2nd dose later that night so that it'd kick in around the time that I'm going back to bed. Since the halflife is so long, I don't think that a matter of a few hours would've made much difference anyway.

- Judoman

P.S. I just started an 8 week cycle. Winny gets ran throughout the whole thing; The first 2 weeks will have an overlap of Anadrol 50 (just to kick things off fast), and the last 6 weeks I'm runny fina at 100mg/eod. Should produce some nice strength gains and with the right diet and training should hopefully cut me up nicely.
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good luck with your cycle bro, i think im starting to feel the heat today; just finished a leg/back workout, i sweated like a pig, lol.

take care.
 
Hey bro,

I spent the last 2 days reading about DNP...i think i'm going to try it.

This thread was exactly what i needed.

Thanks
 
No problem, guys

Raynmela, I can't wait to hit the fina! It'll be my first time injecting but I'm more pumped than scared. My ex-roommate took fina at extremely high doses (we're talking like 1+ grams a week); the fucker packed on like 30lbs of muscle in a month and his bf couldn't have been much higher than 8 or 9%. Of course, he's also the dumb ass who OD'd on DNP and ended up in the hospital with a platelet count in the single digits. I don't think he ever learned that more doesn't always = better.

Japanese Machine, are you still going at 200mg/day? When are you planning on going up? How are your sides so far?

Sust-Man, glad this thread helped ya out bro! If you have any questions or anything, feel free to leave it on this thread (I still check it out every now and then) or pm/email me.

Later guys,

- Judoman
 
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now one Question from me,I want to run dnp soon but want to do a bulking cycle most likely going to be a moderate dose of sust

before or after dnp cycle? I was thinking before that way i can bulk like hell and not worry about fat because dnp comes after

what you guys think?
 
Im haveing to make the same choice. Ive opted to wait and run my DNP afterI bulk so I don't Have to do it before...then end up doing it again when summer comes.
 
How about a low dose (say 200mg/day) of DNP while on a cycle? Burn some fat while gaining muscle!
 
Punt said:
How about a low dose (say 200mg/day) of DNP while on a cycle? Burn some fat while gaining muscle!
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very hard to gain muscle on dnp ,besides thats wasting gear by not getting the most out of your workouts.

Im thinking after aswell,I want about 15-20lbs off my cycle then cut off about 10lbs of fat and be one jacked up midget
 
Canadian Oak why not do a before and after dnp??

If not do it before, personaly i have a good anabolic rebound after dnp, i am actualy stronger.

-fresh
 
Before and after sound not bad,how long after coming off dnp should I start gear?

only reason I wont do just before is I will add fat while bulking no way around it really
 
I don't see any reason not to start right after. I kindof want to do it before since I will be running Var and EQ and being able to have abs whilst running those would be sweet.
 
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