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Hello, i am new to this board but certainly not new to working out or trying gear. I originate in Europe and let me tell you how the guys and atheletes cycle there. You may find this usefull.
The most important factor in cycling and bodybuilding is to keep you body healthy and make sure you have a long life span. Take this to mean, will you give up 10 years or more of your life span for an extra 15lbs of muscle? I hope not. Because you can still get your extra 15lbs but you will have to be more patient. You can have it but instead of waiting 6 weeks you may have to wait 16, by using compounds that are milder, safer and less harsh and use them in smaller quantities. What is the point of using Anadrol 50 and gain 30lbs with 10-15 lbs water? When all is said and done you will net a pernmanent 12 lbs at the expence of
1. extreme heart stress
2. hardening of the arteries
3. VERY unfavorable cholesterol profiles
4. Stresse to internal organs like the Liver, Kidneys, Lungs, Small and large intestines as well as the whole circulatory system. Worth it? In my opinion no. Especially if you are non competitive.
Did you know that it is commonly said that we do everything to destroy our bodies until the age of oh say 35-40. Then we all wake up and decide to become as healthy as possible, the reason being is that at that age your body will start to give you signs that you have abused it. Did you know that almost no one in this country dies of old age anymore? So what is the cause of them dieing. Well, organ failure. And take this to heart and remember your kidneys, as this organ NEVER regenerates. Every time you screw it up with harsh AS the damage is PERNMANENT. Don't believe me? Ask any competent medical professional. The symptoms may subside but the damage is there. Remember a few years ago the up and coming bodybuilding star Don Long? Well he is on kidney dialisys for life. Paul Dillet? Lots of health problems including a very badly depressed immune system. Mike Francios? VERY badly damaged digestive system. Paul Demayo? Quit because of the initial or perhaps advanced phases of kidney and liver problems. He was shocked to find this out during a routine physical when going on his girlfriends insurance plan. Only then did he state " i am not too crazy about what this sport is doing to my health". And has dropped out of site since. I also know a amateur level body builder in my gym who is now about 40. Looks healthy on the outside, but has joints of a 100 year old man as a result of all the years of heavy training and walks with a cane and is recovering from the 3rd knee surgery from torn ligaments. And i am sure i don't need to mention the severe depression you will get after you cycles. So why do i write thie? To ask you "is it all worth it?". Here is what i propose.
Stick to using ONLY nandrolone type hormones and clean high quality testosterones, as testosterones are not considered anabolic steroids by the medical community. Use no more than 600mg of test per week (no, not test suspension) and 400 mg of nandrolone TOTAL PER WEEK for a short time only and then reduce the dosages accordingly. Stay away from all oral steroids except anavar. Need more juice? Then add some primobolan or other low androgen at nomore than 200 mg per week.
REMEMBER: NEVER, NEVER, Never look to your AS for growth. Your size will NEVER come from a injection or a pill. It will come through extremly intelligent trainnig, then diet, then recovery and lifestyle and only then can you consider AS. If you follow this guidline you will be amazed on how much you can grow on 2 ampules of winstroll per week.
Using these guidelines i have gained a total of 100lbs in 4 years of training. My best gains came from using only 500mg a week of sust during the peak. That's it. Noting else. And this was after 2 years of cycling. Before that my cycles were something like 100mg of primobolan per week for 10 weeks etc. One cycle using only 100mg of winstroll per week i gained almost 15 lbs. after 5 weeks. Why? Because i train intelligently and put AS last on the list of supplements. At my peak i weighed in at 280lbs at 6'2 with 12-13%BF. All COLD: Legs 32 inches, arms 19.75, waist 34 inches, chest 52 inches. Needles to say i was big. And while off for almost 2 years i can still maintain 255 lbs weight and run a 7 minute mile.
So take care my friends and remember use as little as possible and not too often. Train right, eat right, sleep right and cycle right. Love your internal organs, as they love you enough to keep you alive. And above all be patient and intellignet your gains will come give it time, don't rush it with megadosing, crazy stacking and extended cycles. Give your body and genetics a chance.
Good health to you all, and again be PATIENT.
The most important factor in cycling and bodybuilding is to keep you body healthy and make sure you have a long life span. Take this to mean, will you give up 10 years or more of your life span for an extra 15lbs of muscle? I hope not. Because you can still get your extra 15lbs but you will have to be more patient. You can have it but instead of waiting 6 weeks you may have to wait 16, by using compounds that are milder, safer and less harsh and use them in smaller quantities. What is the point of using Anadrol 50 and gain 30lbs with 10-15 lbs water? When all is said and done you will net a pernmanent 12 lbs at the expence of
1. extreme heart stress
2. hardening of the arteries
3. VERY unfavorable cholesterol profiles
4. Stresse to internal organs like the Liver, Kidneys, Lungs, Small and large intestines as well as the whole circulatory system. Worth it? In my opinion no. Especially if you are non competitive.
Did you know that it is commonly said that we do everything to destroy our bodies until the age of oh say 35-40. Then we all wake up and decide to become as healthy as possible, the reason being is that at that age your body will start to give you signs that you have abused it. Did you know that almost no one in this country dies of old age anymore? So what is the cause of them dieing. Well, organ failure. And take this to heart and remember your kidneys, as this organ NEVER regenerates. Every time you screw it up with harsh AS the damage is PERNMANENT. Don't believe me? Ask any competent medical professional. The symptoms may subside but the damage is there. Remember a few years ago the up and coming bodybuilding star Don Long? Well he is on kidney dialisys for life. Paul Dillet? Lots of health problems including a very badly depressed immune system. Mike Francios? VERY badly damaged digestive system. Paul Demayo? Quit because of the initial or perhaps advanced phases of kidney and liver problems. He was shocked to find this out during a routine physical when going on his girlfriends insurance plan. Only then did he state " i am not too crazy about what this sport is doing to my health". And has dropped out of site since. I also know a amateur level body builder in my gym who is now about 40. Looks healthy on the outside, but has joints of a 100 year old man as a result of all the years of heavy training and walks with a cane and is recovering from the 3rd knee surgery from torn ligaments. And i am sure i don't need to mention the severe depression you will get after you cycles. So why do i write thie? To ask you "is it all worth it?". Here is what i propose.
Stick to using ONLY nandrolone type hormones and clean high quality testosterones, as testosterones are not considered anabolic steroids by the medical community. Use no more than 600mg of test per week (no, not test suspension) and 400 mg of nandrolone TOTAL PER WEEK for a short time only and then reduce the dosages accordingly. Stay away from all oral steroids except anavar. Need more juice? Then add some primobolan or other low androgen at nomore than 200 mg per week.
REMEMBER: NEVER, NEVER, Never look to your AS for growth. Your size will NEVER come from a injection or a pill. It will come through extremly intelligent trainnig, then diet, then recovery and lifestyle and only then can you consider AS. If you follow this guidline you will be amazed on how much you can grow on 2 ampules of winstroll per week.
Using these guidelines i have gained a total of 100lbs in 4 years of training. My best gains came from using only 500mg a week of sust during the peak. That's it. Noting else. And this was after 2 years of cycling. Before that my cycles were something like 100mg of primobolan per week for 10 weeks etc. One cycle using only 100mg of winstroll per week i gained almost 15 lbs. after 5 weeks. Why? Because i train intelligently and put AS last on the list of supplements. At my peak i weighed in at 280lbs at 6'2 with 12-13%BF. All COLD: Legs 32 inches, arms 19.75, waist 34 inches, chest 52 inches. Needles to say i was big. And while off for almost 2 years i can still maintain 255 lbs weight and run a 7 minute mile.
So take care my friends and remember use as little as possible and not too often. Train right, eat right, sleep right and cycle right. Love your internal organs, as they love you enough to keep you alive. And above all be patient and intellignet your gains will come give it time, don't rush it with megadosing, crazy stacking and extended cycles. Give your body and genetics a chance.
Good health to you all, and again be PATIENT.
