dieselbolan stack at 19

[boxer15]

Hi

I just wanted to know from you other members if 19 is too young to start taking dieselbolan. I say the banner that needto has in his sig that has the before and after pictures from cobra when he was on it. I was thinking of getting the starter stack from mrsupps.com unless you guys agree that 19 is too young for using it. I believe its just a mild ph and I was going to use hcgenerate otc as well as hcgenerate, phytoserms347, and clomid with the ptc supps that are included.

Do you guys think ill be okay using this. Im 5' 7'' and 165 lbs. Haven't grown an inch since my first year of middle school. Or should I just use hcgenerate and phytoserms 347 as a stack? And if so what results can be had from usign hcgenerate and phyto together standalone.

Also, I read somewhere about a product made by ntbm and it was supposed to be a really good preworkout supp. Anyone know what the best pre-workout by them is?

thanks.

 

[kfriesen]

No. Wait

 

[MattJS]

You should learn how to eat and train properly, that alone takes years.... As for before and after pics sorry to say but you'll learn pretty early in your fitness journey not to put much stock in them...

 

[stevesmi]

you should not be touching hormones till 21+ and IMO i would wait till 24+

not only are your muscles and conditioning too raw right now but also you run the risk of permanently fucking up your hormones for life and being put on test replacement therapy at a young age.

there are natural supps you can use right now.. muscle replenisher from NTBM has whey, creatine and a lot of awesome non suppressive supps in it. that would be the perfect thing right now for you.

at NTBM and mr supps WE DO NOT CONDONE underrage use of hormones, we condone it be used only by healthy adult men.. its not about making sales, its about you being safe #1.. at 19 you are still not fully mature yet, not even close.. if you walk around the gym and find the most jacked 40 year old and most jacked 20 year old there who are gym regulars you will look at them and see a difference.. even though they both are jacked and strong the 40 year old looks way more mature and the 20 year olds muscles are too raw and new. it takes years to build a base

 

[IncredibleHoss]

These guys aren't lying. These are reps to. Instead of us making a sale to somebody not "ready" for this stuff we HIGHLY advise against it man.

Trust me I know kids who did stuff at 18 and it messed up a lot of stuff. At your age: eat like a horse, do squats, sleep 8 hrs a day and heavy compound movements.

You can thank us later. Your body is producing plenty of test and i can guarantee your not at your plateau at that age.

 

[boxer15]

thanks everyone for the replies. Pro hormones are now out of the question for me. Just to be clear though could I use something that boost test naturally like phytoserms 347 or hc generate.

also, I work construction for a living and do a lot of heavy concrete work, when I get home I don't feel like lifting so is there any supps that you guys recommend that would make a good pre workout for energy and focus, I was thinking of N2KTS by NTBM.

 

[stevesmi]

^^ non suppressive stuff is fine to use.

i would get muscle replenisher like i said above. it covers everything.

you can use stims but don't abuse them or you will be hooked on them and feel blah without them, not what you want long term

 

[boxer15]

These guys aren't lying. These are reps to. Instead of us making a sale to somebody not "ready" for this stuff we HIGHLY advise against it man.

Trust me I know kids who did stuff at 18 and it messed up a lot of stuff. At your age: eat like a horse, do squats, sleep 8 hrs a day and heavy compound movements.

You can thank us later. Your body is producing plenty of test and i can guarantee your not at your plateau at that age.

Definately the truth and the reason I joined this site and became a platinum member. Unlike most other sites I have been on I trust the members of this site. One site I was on the other members were telling me that pro hormones are okay to take at 16 and then pasted a link to what I believe was their own website. so, thank you again everyone for replying and giving it to me straight lol!