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Dieselbolan or Beastdrol?
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Or this
haha..nice edit!
Here's what you get with the shredder stack:
1 beastdrol
1 katanadrol
1 forged liver support
1 forged post cycle
How to cycle the stack:
1-4 beastdrol 1 cap 3 times a day
1-4 katanadrol 1 cap 3 times daily
1-4 forged liver support 2 caps daily
4-8 forged post cycle 2 caps Am daily
steelydanman
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diesel and eat clean
Katanadrol has two anabolic compounds in it that work well together.
Dieselbolan has one, plus an anti-progestin to reduce bloat.
Katanadrol by itself is what I suggest. Dieselbolan really shines when bulking. Not so much in caloric defecit.
Truly, both will help preserve mass, but if you are looking for 1 product as the better choice, it is Katanadrol IMO.
needtogetaas
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needtogetaas
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Katanadrol is what you are looking for if all you want to do is keep muscle and strength well cutting man.
If you are cutting, just the one bro. Adding more won;t be of much benefit.
Now, if you were bulking, then I would say do both. Katanadrol and diesel stacked is a killer stack. I've got it waiting for me on the shelf. First week of July I will be starting it and will do a log.
Th stack provides potential bulk (as does any steroid compounds), and cutting is largely dependant upon your diet.
However, on a caloric defecit, you certainly will not get much bulk either. Your body grows with calories. Eating less than your body needs to maintain weight will not results in bulking and gaining much weight.
Anabolics accelerate protein synthesis, so it is possible to gain some muscle and lose fat but I do not like that approach. I either am going to bulk and pack on as much meat as possible, or I am all-out trying to strip fat while gaining muscle mass is of no concern, and retaining muscle mass is all I am after.
needtogetaas
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You do not need to, but I would anyway.
Thanks for the replys.....I am going to go with the Kata and amp02.....so I am going to do the kata for 6 weeks 3 pills a day, and novla for pct. So on this cutting cycle am I right that it should be a low calorie diet, also I am not a big cardio guy, but I assuming I should add about 30 mins of cardio as well.
That is my current workout, I have sort of been following the Eas workout....12,10,8,6,12.6...win 1 min breaks in between. I want to make sure that I do this right so I can get the best results. You know have all the tools before I start the job.
Just remember that even though you will be in caloric defecit, your protein intake should remain as high or higher than it is right now. Don't reduce protein intake, just carbs. Fats too if you take in too many fats.
Ok so High protein, low carb low fat diet.... I just ordered so when I get it, I will submitt the some before and after pics.
needtogetaas
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Perfect man perfect.
Not necessarily low on the fat. Just normal. Not too many, but not too little. Fats are important.
A 200 lb guy should go for 70-80 grams.
Haven't gotten my kata yet but I have started my test diet....tell me what you think........should I add more?
8:00am - Muscle Milk (Protein shake)
10:00am - 1/2 cup Oatmeal and frozen fruit and coffee
12:00pm - 2 turkey (not processed) sandwiches on wheat bread and apple with Crytsal light
2:00pm - protein shake (muscle milk)and 1 cup of walnuts
5:30pm - 2 t-bone steaks, baked potatoe and brocolli
8:00pm - Apple and 2 TBLS peanut butter
8:00am - Muscle Milk (Protein shake)
10:00am - 1/2 cup Oatmeal and frozen fruit and coffee
12:00pm - 2 turkey (not processed) sandwiches on wheat bread and apple with Crytsal light
2:00pm - protein shake (muscle milk)and 1 cup of walnuts
5:30pm - 2 t-bone steaks, baked potatoe and brocolli
8:00pm - Apple and 2 TBLS peanut butter
What serving size of muscle milk?
Total protein would be helpful. It appears you are falling short on protein.
Muscle Milk size is 17 fl oz (500 mL).......So looking at that, you would sugesst adding more protein? Dinner and lunch cool?
I don't care about the OZ. How much protein is in it?
Shoot for 2 grams of protein per lb/body weight.
34 grams of protein in the shake
Supplement Facts
Serving Size 1 CAN
Servings Per Container 12
Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value
Calories 350 N/A*
Calories From Fat 150 N/A*
Total Fat 17 Gm 26%
Saturated Fat 7 Gm 36%
Cholesterol 5 Mg 2%
Total Carbohydrate 17 Gm 6%
Dietary Fiber 2 Gm 10%
Sugars 7 Gm N/A*
Protein 34 Gm 68%
Vitamin A 1650 IU 35%
Vitamin C 20 Gm 35%
Vitamin D 132 IU 35%
Vitamin E 12 IU 40%
Thiamin 0 Mg 35%
Riboflavin 1 Mg 35%
Niacin 7 Mg 35%
Vitamin B6 1 Mg 35%
Folate 132 Mcg 35%
Vitamin B12 2 Mcg 35%
Biotin 99 Mcg 35%
Pantothenic Acid 3 Mg 35%
Calcium 606 Mg 60%
Iron 8 Mg 45%
Phosphorous 334 Mg 35%
Iodine 53 Mcg 35%
Magnesium 163 Mg 40%
Zinc 5 Mg 35%
Copper 1 Mg 35%
Chromium 104 Mcg 90%
Sodium 270 Mg 11%
Potassium 690 Mg 20%
Serving Size 1 CAN
Servings Per Container 12
Amount Per
Serving % Daily
Value
Calories 350 N/A*
Calories From Fat 150 N/A*
Total Fat 17 Gm 26%
Saturated Fat 7 Gm 36%
Cholesterol 5 Mg 2%
Total Carbohydrate 17 Gm 6%
Dietary Fiber 2 Gm 10%
Sugars 7 Gm N/A*
Protein 34 Gm 68%
Vitamin A 1650 IU 35%
Vitamin C 20 Gm 35%
Vitamin D 132 IU 35%
Vitamin E 12 IU 40%
Thiamin 0 Mg 35%
Riboflavin 1 Mg 35%
Niacin 7 Mg 35%
Vitamin B6 1 Mg 35%
Folate 132 Mcg 35%
Vitamin B12 2 Mcg 35%
Biotin 99 Mcg 35%
Pantothenic Acid 3 Mg 35%
Calcium 606 Mg 60%
Iron 8 Mg 45%
Phosphorous 334 Mg 35%
Iodine 53 Mcg 35%
Magnesium 163 Mg 40%
Zinc 5 Mg 35%
Copper 1 Mg 35%
Chromium 104 Mcg 90%
Sodium 270 Mg 11%
Potassium 690 Mg 20%
Cool
So, shoot for 2 grams of protein per/lb of body weight. Figure that out, and then come back and propose a new diet.
If you want to you can, it will help some.
The beast will give you that, so do it the last 4 weeks.
abomb555
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i second the motion
Yup just orals..
But they do the same thing?
Yes and no. Both are good for the liver in different ways because the ingredients are different and improve liver health in a different way.
I always use both.
Take 3. The bottle says different for legal purposes.
No more. 3 a day total.
Which is why you need to spread out the dose.
1 in the Am and 2 pre-workout.
Or just take 1 3x per day spread throughout the day.
I take it like this.
Wake up and take 1 with breakfast. I take 2 more at 4PM pre-workout. You could also take 1 AM, 1 pre-workout and 1 at night to keep the blood levels as even as possible.
ConanX
Banned
Usually most people will say that oral steroids are best taken with a fatty meal for best absorption. I honestly don't think it makes much of a difference.
Starhopper
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I always spread them out throughout the day, 1 cap every 8 hours. I talked to someone (Can't remember who) that had some stomach issue's when he took 2 pre-workout. And I have always taken them with alittle food.
NinjaTurtles
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Any pics yet?
lukester19
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I also am planning to do this stack in two weeks. Friend used it and had awesome results. Cant wait to get started.
needtogetaas
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There is members who have posted pics. If you would like to see the threads i will give you some links to them.
lukester19
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Hey need to, Is it true you accept paypal? Reading on your websites forum one of the answers stated this but I am not sure if this is a acceptable form of payment. It also said you do not accept money order. I currently have lots of funds in paypal due to using ebay consistently so this would be a good way to pay for me. But am just wanting to make sure.
Thanks
edit just re-read forum again and noticed you do take money order outlined to the address that you gave. But the pay pal option is that still available?
Thanks
edit just re-read forum again and noticed you do take money order outlined to the address that you gave. But the pay pal option is that still available?
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needtogetaas
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Yes of course i take paypal man.
Do you also take bottles or change. Cuz i got a big jar full of change with ur name on it
Do you also take bottles or change. Cuz i got a big jar full of change with ur name on it
If you pay the shipping costs to send out a jar full of metal coins, go for it, lol.
needtogetaas
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Do you also take bottles or change. Cuz i got a big jar full of change with ur name on it
If its money and you get it to me i will take it. What I do not take is
wic
food stamps
IOU's
C.O.D's and yes I have had a tun of requests for this one so forget it its not going to happen.
Your girl's picks
No training products
I do take
cash in mail
checks in the mail (you will have to wait for me to get it and for it to clear the bank before products get sent)
money orders
paypal
credit cards
dims nickles don't matter if its cash I take it
also
gold silver,car tittles to cars newer then 2005,deeds to your house,anal sex with hot woman, blow jobs and AAAH ya thats about it. OK the last part was a joke.
Its the bomb.
bulkincredible
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I should be getting my bottles of beast and diesel any day now. Cant wait to start!. Anyways whats the best possible way to use them?. Together? Im ordering nolvadex for pct is that cool?.
Oh and i gotta say, pretty good customer service. Im happy.
Oh and i gotta say, pretty good customer service. Im happy.
bulkincredible
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Anyone?
bulkincredible
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LOL, wtf! where is everyone?
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