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Dermacrine – The Perfect addition to your AAS cycle

Dermacrine – The Perfect addition to your AAS cycle​

Do you need help supporting a raging sex drive, aggressive mental focus, and an intense appetite to fulfill your protein requirements? Perhaps you are you using Deca and having problems keeping ‘it’ hard, or running EQ and feeling lethargic and unmotivated, or using Anadrol and lacking an appetite for food. These problems are typical for many athletes and bodybuilders when hormone levels become out of balance. Fortunately, Dermacrine can counter these problems by providing a significant boost in the essential male hormones.

Dermacrine is a topical cream that delivers high amounts of androgenic & anabolic hormones right through the skin. What makes Dermacrine so exciting is that it is not only a solid performance enhancing supplement on its own, but it can be stacked with just about any AAS cycle to increase gains and prevent many side effects. Let me explain…

Many don’t realize that there are over a dozen different natural hormones which act like testosterone to positively influence muscle gains, strength and libido.(1) Dermacrine delivers a hefty dose of DHEA and Pregenenolone, bio-identical precursors for the essential male hormones. More specifically, DHEA readily converts to the hormones androstenedione, androstenediol, and androsterone.(2-8) These are known as anabolic/androgenic hormones that are responsible for “all that is man” including libido, muscular development, aggression and recovery. Therefore, it is important to keep these hormones elevated with Dermacrine, especially during a steroid cycle when the production of these natural hormones are shut down!

Consider this -- DHEA is absorbed through the skin about 10x better than it is absorbed orally.(9,10,11) Most fascinating, is that the skin is extremely concentrated in the steroid converting enzymes required to convert DHEA to the androgenic/anabolic hormones listed above.(2-8) Because Dermacrine is delivered topically, we’ve created the most effective formula possible. Dermacrine is so powerful, users have compared it to using 150-200mg/wk of Injectable testosterone (TE).

To help control estrogenic side effects we’ve fortified Dermacrine with Resveratrol and 7,8 Benzoflavone – natural aromatase inhibitors that reduce conversion to estrogen. We’ve also designed Dermacrine to have minimal conversion to DHT, thus offering safety for those concerned with hair loss.

These properties make Dermacrine one outstanding product. We encourage you to visit the Primordial Performance website to learn more –
www.primordialperformance.com

We also encourage you to learn more about Sustain Alpha as a PCT substitute for Clomid or Nolva without the side-effects.

As a benefit to the forum members, Primordial Performance is extending a 10% off discount. Just enter SPONSOR10 in the promotional code field during online checkout.

Thank you.

-Pp



REFERENCES

1. http://www.primordialperformance.com/hormone_tree.cfm

2. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C ] dehydroepiandrosterone into 7-oxygenated derivatives by the normal human male and female skin tissue. Faredin, I., A. Fazekas, I. Toth, and M. Juslesz. J. Invest. Dermatol. 52:357. 1969

3. The metabolism of [4-14C] 5 androstene-3P, 17P-diol by normal human skin in vitro. Faredin, I., and I. Toth. Acta Med. Acad. Sci. Hung. 32:139. 1975.

4. Sebocytes are the key regulators of androgen homeostasis in human skin. M Fritsch, CE Orfanos, and CC Zouboulis J Invest Dermatol, May 1, 2001; 116(5): 793-800.

5. Transformation and conjugation of dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin. Berliner, D. L., and A. J. Gallegos. J. Clin. Endocrinol. 27:1214. 1967.

6. The formation of water soluble steroids by human skin. Berliner, D. L., J. R. Pasqu****i, and A. J. Gallegos. J. Invest. Dermatol. 50:220. 1968

7. The in vitro metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone in human skin. I Faredin, JL Webb, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1967; 23(2): 169-79.

8. The metabolism of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin in vitro. I. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone into Androst-4-ene-3,17-dione, testosterone and androsterone by normal human male and female skin slices. I Faredin, K Kokai, I Toth, AG Fazekas, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1970; 27(1): 95-102.

9. High bioavailability of dehydroepiandrosterone administered percutaneously in the rat C Labrie, M Flamand, A Belanger, and F Labrie J. Endocrinol., Sep 1996; 150: S107 - S118.

10. Effects of transdermal application of DHEA to men on the levels of steroids, gonadotropins and lipids. SULCOVÁ J, HILL M, HAMPL R, MA.EK Z, NOVÁ C EK A, C E.KA R, STÁRKA L Physiol Res 49: 685-693, 2000.

11. 5. Majeed, M. et al. US Patent #5,536,506 (1996), US Patent # 5,744,161 (1998), US Patent # 5,972,382 (1999), US Patent # 6, 054, 585 (2000) and International patents
 
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I'm glad you put up this thread because I was actually about to put up a similar one... I just finished a short 8-week cycle, t bol, tr-en ace, and pr-op... I ran the t bol for the first 4 weeks, for an extra "kick".... after that, I was missing that extra kick so I decided to run Dermacrine for the last 4 weeks... and it definitely gave me the kick I was lookin' for...especially since after a while of being on tr-en, you kinda get that lethargic tired feeling.... Derma helped minimize that....I wasn't sure if I'd notice anything with Derma on-cycle, I'd only ever used it before while off... so I ran it for a while, then skipped a few days... I definitely noticed a difference... I'm thinking in the future I'll use derma as a mild kickstart to any cycle as opposed to an oral.

Good stuff!
 
Brad87 said:
I have been wanting to get some dermacrine sustain for p c t but dont know how much to use of it. How much of it should use and would one bottle last through out my p c t? Thanks.


You would use 5 pumps a day for PCT and that would make 1 bottle of Sustain last a month – which is fine for most PCT’s. You could continue running the product for as long as you want though, as its totally natural with a myriad of other health benefits.

Nemesis,

Yes, Dermacrine would stack very well with Anavar for clean solid gains. It should also help with both your sex drive and appetite as those tend to be popular side effects with anavar only cycles. If your cycle is less than 6 weeks you would be fine with a Sustain only PCT.

If your cycle is going to be any longer than 6 weeks, make sure you shoot some hCG during the cycle. 250iu E4D would be fine.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Nemesis,
Yes, Dermacrine would stack very well with Anavar for clean solid gains. It should also help with both your sex drive and appetite as those tend to be popular side effects with anavar only cycles. If your cycle is less than 6 weeks you would be fine with a Sustain only PCT.

If your cycle is going to be any longer than 6 weeks, make sure you shoot some HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - during the cycle. 250iu E4D would be fine.
-Pp

Thanks for the info, I'm sold. Now one last question. I was on your site, and I read about others coming in contact with 'affected clothing or bedding'. I have a wife and two daughters that wash the clothes. Is this a problem, and does this stuff wash off in the shower? Don't want my wife to get to masculine just from sleeping in the same bed as me.. What's the scoop?
 
nemesis 2027 said:
Thanks for the info, I'm sold. Now one last question. I was on your site, and I read about others coming in contact with 'affected clothing or bedding'. I have a wife and two daughters that wash the clothes. Is this a problem, and does this stuff wash off in the shower? Don't want my wife to get to masculine just from sleeping in the same bed as me.. What's the scoop?


Nemesis,

Its real young babies that we worry about. If a very young child sleeps in the bed with you then some of the DHEA may transfer to them, and this would be a problem. Otherwise, your wife, or an order daughter wouldn’t have any problem with occasionally coming in contact with your sheets your clothing.

Ghost,

We try to stay away from the harsh solvents like DMSO. The smell and skin reaction is just too much for most people. We can accomplish the same thing by much more advanced and practical methods.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Nemesis,

Its real young babies that we worry about. If a very young child sleeps in the bed with you then some of the DHEA may transfer to them, and this would be a problem. Otherwise, your wife, or an order daughter wouldn’t have any problem with occasionally coming in contact with your sheets your clothing.

-Pp


Thanks for the answer. I'm definitely sold and will be placing an order early next week. I'm planning on the 3 mix-n-match deal. There's a bit of savings plus the $10.00 discount. 1 reg and 2 sustain sounds good. I'm looking forward to using it. :spin:
 
nemesis 2027 said:
I am planning a anavar cycle in the near future. Do you think reg Derm it would be be a good mix with that, and then the Derm Sustain for P.C.T.?
I have bin pimping cycles like that in pm's for a year now...send me a pm and ill tell you just how to do it..I have hooked many people up and they loved it.
 
njmuscleguy said:
I'm glad you put up this thread because I was actually about to put up a similar one... I just finished a short 8-week cycle, t bol, tr-en ace, and pr-op... I ran the t bol for the first 4 weeks, for an extra "kick".... after that, I was missing that extra kick so I decided to run Dermacrine for the last 4 weeks... and it definitely gave me the kick I was lookin' for...especially since after a while of being on tr-en, you kinda get that lethargic tired feeling.... Derma helped minimize that....I wasn't sure if I'd notice anything with Derma on-cycle, I'd only ever used it before while off... so I ran it for a while, then skipped a few days... I definitely noticed a difference... I'm thinking in the future I'll use derma as a mild kickstart to any cycle as opposed to an oral.

Good stuff!
its cool cuz it has a light ai effect as well.
 
Damn Im Sold! You should see how much stickin up for yall ive ben doin on other boards

I See PP on OLAW doin it big !
 
nemesis 2027 said:
Thanks for the answer. I'm definitely sold and will be placing an order early next week. I'm planning on the 3 mix-n-match deal. There's a bit of savings plus the $10.00 discount. 1 reg and 2 sustain sounds good. I'm looking forward to using it. :spin:

Hypothetically, I have some var. Stacking it w/ dermacrine just never came to mind. Good idea. Keep us posted on your results. I will run the same thing you are in a few months :)
 
I started my Dermacrine yesterday. 7ml morning upon rising ED. So far, real good !

Pros:
- application: compared to other transdermal products I've tried (including several by Dermabolics; S1+, 4AD, E-form, etc.), this was by far the least messy one to smear on; didn't have that strong alcohol scent/odor that other do; didn't sting or burn the skin upon application, and it dried/absorbed quickly.
- already heightened sense of 'drive'. Also, I've noticed that my erections are harder; i had somewhat of an issue with this since I got off my summer cycle a couple months back, so I'm happy as hell! (Can anyone else back this up after only two days (two applications?) ?)
- on the first day when I applied it, I worked out about 8 hours after. I'm doing the workout and diet plan from the Ultimate Diet 2.0 , so I'm sweating balls when working out. I was happy that this didn't start burning my eyes or skin when it got mixed with the sweat. (an NO2 transdermal I took before did that; if my hand touched any part of my body where I had applied it and I had sweated, and I'd wipe my face or eyes, my retina's would be frying for 5 minutes.)

Cons:
- none. However, about 30-40 minutes after I applied it on day 1, my heart beat got ramped up considerably when I was laying down on the couch. I had taken a thermo 5-6 hours earlier, so I'm not gonna say that the Dermacrine caused it.
Needtogetaas: what do you think about it ? Could it be related ?

Anyway, I'm looking forward to this next month. I'm hoping it'll help my libido recover, and I'm looking forward to what is to come in the weightroom, 'manhood' and in body composition.

Other supplements I'm taking with Ultimate Diet 2.0:
- CLA - 6g/day
- MCT oil - 32g/day
- Fish oil - 10g/day
- ALA - 600mg/day six days a week; 2400mg/day on my 30 hour carb load every Friday.
- Jet Fuel - 5-6 caps/day on workout days - 4 days/week
- Epistane - 40mg/day on workout days - 4 days/week


-anavathor
 
Can a person with acne on his upper back and shoulders still use it?
If so which is better 4 recovery and compatible with proviron and nolva?
 
BackedUP62 said:
Can a person with acne on his upper back and shoulders still use it?
If so which is better 4 recovery and compatible with proviron and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ?
sustain is better for pct bro...yes if you have acne on back you can still use it...
just put it on your cheast,abs,legs,and feet :)
 
BackedUP62 said:
Can a person with acne on his upper back and shoulders still use it?
If so which is better 4 recovery and compatible with proviron and Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - ?

Sorry bro... missed this one.

Yes Sustain is for PCT - post cycle therapy - ... and either product can be used over acne. Our topical cream is very gentle, yet still effective.

-Pp
 
I didnt relize EQ could make you feel lethargic and unmotivated' Im currently on EQ and have been haveing these symtoms. So Dermacrine along with cycle will help????
 
austin77 said:
I didnt relize Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - could make you feel lethargic and unmotivated' Im currently on EQ and have been haveing these symtoms. So Dermacrine along with cycle will help????
yes
 
BackedUP62 said:
u guys are slow
not slow just trying to keep up with a large amount of customers and things.

it will be in with in a week 2 maybe less.

I will make a thread letting every one know when its back in stock...one thing I can say is dermacrin sustain is selling like crazy people just love it..we still have dermacrin reg in stock right now guys so if you want to order that for on cycle pm me for discounts and details :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
 
needtogetaas said:
not slow just trying to keep up with a large amount of customers and things.

it will be in with in a week 2 maybe less.

I will make a thread letting every one know when its back in stock...one thing I can say is dermacrin sustain is selling like crazy people just love it..we still have dermacrin reg in stock right now guys so if you want to order that for on cycle pm me for discounts and details :) :) :) :) :) :) :)


Damn, that's a bummer.. I was all set today to order the 3 pack per our pm's. 1 reg and 2 sustains.. Should I back order them, or just wait til they're back in stock?
 
Nevermind.. That was a stupid question.. I'm in a work mode and not thinking..lol

I ordered it up just like we discussed needto, and it went through just fine. Thanks for the tips on the discount, it will helps with the cost. :)

I will pm you when I receive it, and we'll look at my potential 'lite' cycle, and I'll get your thoughts on it.

Thanks again..
 
BackedUP62 said:
u guys are slow

Sorry for the absence bro… Things have been crazy over here and we have been running a bit behind lately working on moving the office, fulfilling current orders, and keeping the R&D going for next few products.

Sustain is all stocked back up now though… but supply is still running short so if you’ve got a PCT that you need it for get it now.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Sorry for the absence bro… Things have been crazy over here and we have been running a bit behind lately working on moving the office, fulfilling current orders, and keeping the R&D going for next few products.

Sustain is all stocked back up now though… but supply is still running short so if you’ve got a PCT - post cycle therapy - that you need it for get it now.

-Pp


Got your email on the order shipped status. Thanks for the quick service, and I am really looking forward to recieving and using it. :)
 
needtogetaas said:
yes bro..I dont think your going to get a bottle threw Australian customs bro..

how about you put the original derma formula in a sustain bottle for me and send it bro? :)
 
xrsist said:
how about you put the original derma formula in a sustain bottle for me and send it bro? :)


I was thinking the same thing a few posts ago, but more like a commercial hand/body lotion bottle.. Less obvious the better.
 
nemesis 2027 said:
I was thinking the same thing a few posts ago, but more like a commercial hand/body lotion bottle.. Less obvious the better.


that would do.. hmm.. got me thinking now..
 
masterpp said:
would u be able to ship the original forumula to the uk

ps dhea is legal here

Yes bro, we can do this. We always ship the same day too, so you would likely get your order in just 4-5 days with regular priority.

In the US, most folks are getting there order in 2-3 days.

-Pp
 
mateo de la ley1 said:
I'm sold, the Sustain just absolutely rocks like a mother fucker. Just ordered some regular Dermacrine for the future. Someone pipe in and tell us about their experience with the Dermatherm.
nice
 
mateo de la ley1 said:
I'm sold, the Sustain just absolutely rocks like a mother fucker. Just ordered some regular Dermacrine for the future. Someone pipe in and tell us about their experience with the Dermatherm.

i would like to hear more about this product also
 
Primordial Performance said:
Its a very strong anti-catabolic... which does a great job of holding on to muscle when cutting calories very low.

-Pp
which the dermacrine or derma sus? or both ? anyways i been using dermacrine only been like a week feel a slight strength increase and also slight aggression increase..stuff deff works ..still early though
 
You gonna hook it up?

Primordial Performance said:
Dermacrine – The Perfect addition to your anabolic androgenic steroids cycle​

Do you need help supporting a raging sex drive, aggressive mental focus, and an intense appetite to fulfill your protein requirements? Perhaps you are you using Deca and having problems keeping ‘it’ hard, or running Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and feeling lethargic and unmotivated, or using Anadrol and lacking an appetite for food. These sorts of problems are typical for many athletes and bodybuilders when hormone levels become out of balance. Fortunately, Dermacrine has come to the rescue for many men experiencing these issues, and has provided an easy solution.

Dermacrine is a serious hormonal optimizer utilizing an advanced transdermal delivery system. What makes Dermacrine so exciting is that it is not only a solid performance enhancing supplement on its own, but it can be stacked with just about any AAS cycle to increase gains and prevent many side effects. Let me explain…

Many don’t realize that there are over a dozen different natural hormones which act like testosterone to positively influence muscle gains, strength and libido.(1) Dermacrine provides all of them. By providing a hefty dose of DHEA and Pregenenolone, Dermacrine provides the immediate precursors for the essential male hormones. More specifically, DHEA readily converts to the hormones androstenedione, androstenediol, and androsterone.(2-8) These are known as anabolic/androgenic hormones. By definition, there hormones are responsible for “all that is man” including the maintenance of sexual function, masculine traits, confidence and muscular development. Therefore, it is important to keep these hormones elevated with Dermacrine, especially during a steroid cycle when the production of these natural hormones are shut down!


Consider this -- DHEA is absorbed through the skin about 10x better than it is absorbed orally.(9,10) Most fascinating, is that the skin is extremely concentrated in the steroid converting enzymes required to convert DHEA to the androgenic/anabolic hormones listed above.(2-8) So, by making Dermacrine a topical product, we’ve created the most effective formula possible, offering you the most bang for you buck. To help control estrogenic side effects we’ve fortified Dermacrine with Resveratrol and 7,8 Benzoflavone. We’ve also included ingredients designed to limit DHT production, thus offering relief for those concerned with hair loss.

Dermacrine now more powerful than ever!

Primordial Performance has recently improved their topical delivery formula with a patented cosmetic pepper extract known as tetrahydropiperine, which has been proven to increase absorption of topical ingredients and make Dermacrine 30-40% more effective!(11)

These properties make Dermacrine one outstanding product. We encourage you to visit the Primordial Performance website to learn more – www.primordialperformance.com We also encourage you to lean more about our Dermacrine Sustain as a PCT substitute for Clomid or Nolva without the side-effects.

As a benefit to Elite members, Primordial Performance is extending a $10 discount off any product. Just enter “MVC10” into the promotional code field during checkout.

Thank you.

-Pp

dermacrine.jpg


REFERENCES

1. http://www.primordialperformance.com/hormone_tree.cfm
2. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C ] dehydroepiandrosterone into 7-oxygenated derivatives by the normal human male and female skin tissue. Faredin, I., A. Fazekas, I. Toth, and M. Juslesz. J. Invest. Dermatol. 52:357. 1969
3. The metabolism of [4-14C] 5 androstene-3P, 17P-diol by normal human skin in vitro. Faredin, I., and I. Toth. Acta Med. Acad. Sci. Hung. 32:139. 1975.
4. Sebocytes are the key regulators of androgen homeostasis in human skin. M Fritsch, CE Orfanos, and CC Zouboulis J Invest Dermatol, May 1, 2001; 116(5): 793-800.
5. Transformation and conjugation of dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin. Berliner, D. L., and A. J. Gallegos. J. Clin. Endocrinol. 27:1214. 1967.
6. The formation of water soluble steroids by human skin. Berliner, D. L., J. R. Pasqualini, and A. J. Gallegos. J. Invest. Dermatol. 50:220. 1968
7. The in vitro metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone in human skin. I Faredin, JL Webb, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1967; 23(2): 169-79.
8. The metabolism of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin in vitro. I. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone into Androst-4-ene-3,17-dione, testosterone and androsterone by normal human male and female skin slices. I Faredin, K Kokai, I Toth, AG Fazekas, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1970; 27(1): 95-102.
9. High bioavailability of dehydroepiandrosterone administered percutaneously in the rat C Labrie, M Flamand, A Belanger, and F Labrie J. Endocrinol., Sep 1996; 150: S107 - S118.
10. Effects of transdermal application of DHEA to men on the levels of steroids, gonadotropins and lipids. SULCOVÁ J, HILL M, HAMPL R, MA.EK Z, NOVÁ C EK A, C E.KA R, STÁRKA L Physiol Res 49: 685-693, 2000.
11. 5. Majeed, M. et al. US Patent #5,536,506 (1996), US Patent # 5,744,161 (1998), US Patent # 5,972,382 (1999), US Patent # 6, 054, 585 (2000) and International patents
 
hurricane187 said:
which the dermacrine or derma sus? or both ? anyways i been using dermacrine only been like a week feel a slight strength increase and also slight aggression increase..stuff deff works ..still early though

I was referring to the DermaTherm... but the Dermacrine has this same effect too.

krishna... Shoot me a PM bro.

-Pp
 
Primordial Performance said:
Dermacrine – The Perfect addition to your anabolic androgenic steroids cycle​

Do you need help supporting a raging sex drive, aggressive mental focus, and an intense appetite to fulfill your protein requirements? Perhaps you are you using Deca-Durabolin - nandrolone decanoate - and having problems keeping ‘it’ hard, or running Equipoise - boldenone undecylenate - and feeling lethargic and unmotivated, or using Anadrol and lacking an appetite for food. These sorts of problems are typical for many athletes and bodybuilders when hormone levels become out of balance. Fortunately, Dermacrine has come to the rescue for many men experiencing these issues, and has provided an easy solution.

Dermacrine is a serious hormonal optimizer utilizing an advanced transdermal delivery system. What makes Dermacrine so exciting is that it is not only a solid performance enhancing supplement on its own, but it can be stacked with just about any AAS cycle to increase gains and prevent many side effects. Let me explain…

Many don’t realize that there are over a dozen different natural hormones which act like testosterone to positively influence muscle gains, strength and libido.(1) Dermacrine provides all of them. By providing a hefty dose of DHEA and Pregenenolone, Dermacrine provides the immediate precursors for the essential male hormones. More specifically, DHEA readily converts to the hormones androstenedione, androstenediol, and androsterone.(2-8) These are known as anabolic/androgenic hormones. By definition, there hormones are responsible for “all that is man” including the maintenance of sexual function, masculine traits, confidence and muscular development. Therefore, it is important to keep these hormones elevated with Dermacrine, especially during a steroid cycle when the production of these natural hormones are shut down!


Consider this -- DHEA is absorbed through the skin about 10x better than it is absorbed orally.(9,10) Most fascinating, is that the skin is extremely concentrated in the steroid converting enzymes required to convert DHEA to the androgenic/anabolic hormones listed above.(2-8) So, by making Dermacrine a topical product, we’ve created the most effective formula possible, offering you the most bang for you buck. To help control estrogenic side effects we’ve fortified Dermacrine with Resveratrol and 7,8 Benzoflavone. We’ve also included ingredients designed to limit DHT production, thus offering relief for those concerned with hair loss.

Dermacrine now more powerful than ever!

Primordial Performance has recently improved their topical delivery formula with a patented cosmetic pepper extract known as tetrahydropiperine, which has been proven to increase absorption of topical ingredients and make Dermacrine 30-40% more effective!(11)

These properties make Dermacrine one outstanding product. We encourage you to visit the Primordial Performance website to learn more – www.primordialperformance.com We also encourage you to lean more about our Dermacrine Sustain as a PCT substitute for Clomid or Nolva without the side-effects.

As a benefit to Elite members, Primordial Performance is extending a $10 discount off any product. Just enter “MVC10” into the promotional code field during checkout.

Thank you.

-Pp

dermacrine.jpg


REFERENCES

1. http://www.primordialperformance.com/hormone_tree.cfm
2. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C ] dehydroepiandrosterone into 7-oxygenated derivatives by the normal human male and female skin tissue. Faredin, I., A. Fazekas, I. Toth, and M. Juslesz. J. Invest. Dermatol. 52:357. 1969
3. The metabolism of [4-14C] 5 androstene-3P, 17P-diol by normal human skin in vitro. Faredin, I., and I. Toth. Acta Med. Acad. Sci. Hung. 32:139. 1975.
4. Sebocytes are the key regulators of androgen homeostasis in human skin. M Fritsch, CE Orfanos, and CC Zouboulis J Invest Dermatol, May 1, 2001; 116(5): 793-800.
5. Transformation and conjugation of dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin. Berliner, D. L., and A. J. Gallegos. J. Clin. Endocrinol. 27:1214. 1967.
6. The formation of water soluble steroids by human skin. Berliner, D. L., J. R. Pasqualini, and A. J. Gallegos. J. Invest. Dermatol. 50:220. 1968
7. The in vitro metabolism of dehydroepiandrosterone in human skin. I Faredin, JL Webb, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1967; 23(2): 169-79.
8. The metabolism of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone by human skin in vitro. I. Transformation in vitro of [4-14C] dehydroepiandrosterone into Androst-4-ene-3,17-dione, testosterone and androsterone by normal human male and female skin slices. I Faredin, K Kokai, I Toth, AG Fazekas, and M Julesz Acta Med Acad Sci Hung, Jan 1970; 27(1): 95-102.
9. High bioavailability of dehydroepiandrosterone administered percutaneously in the rat C Labrie, M Flamand, A Belanger, and F Labrie J. Endocrinol., Sep 1996; 150: S107 - S118.
10. Effects of transdermal application of DHEA to men on the levels of steroids, gonadotropins and lipids. SULCOVÁ J, HILL M, HAMPL R, MA.EK Z, NOVÁ C EK A, C E.KA R, STÁRKA L Physiol Res 49: 685-693, 2000.
11. 5. Majeed, M. et al. US Patent #5,536,506 (1996), US Patent # 5,744,161 (1998), US Patent # 5,972,382 (1999), US Patent # 6, 054, 585 (2000) and International patents
Pm me for product discounts and info. :) :) :) :) :)
 
moonshine420 said:
i love the dermacrine sustain just started it on monday and im already feeling great, my strength has gone up a little and the pumps are amazing...this stuff was deffinitly worth a try!!
Nice bro!!!!!!
 
Im going to do a fairly short sus and stan cycle. would sustain alpha be sufficient? will last about 6 weeks.

Thanks
 
HDPT said:
Im going to do a fairly short sus and stan cycle. would sustain alpha be sufficient? will last about 6 weeks.

Thanks
sufficient for what? pct. most of the time it is, But I always say to use hcg.
 
HDPT said:
Im going to do a fairly short sus and stan cycle. would sustain alpha be sufficient? will last about 6 weeks.

Thanks

If you didnt run hCG on cycle, it would def be a good idea to do it ASAP.

Some guys like doing a PCT with just Sustain, but you can add 25mg/day clomid for 4-6 weeks if you want the extra support.

Also, keep an eye out for our full testosterone recovery stack... including Sustain Alpha, Toco-8 and EndoAmp.

-Pp
 
needtogetaas said:
Dermacrin is my fav of all the pp products. It was the first products they ever made and I fell in love with it. Its the reason I joined the pp team. Best otc product I have ever used IMO

Just got my first bottle of Derma... can't wait to tell you all about it :)
 
Anything that is "impressive" to needto, you can be sure is a good product. The man knows what he's talking about. Pp is good peeps.

This is a solid product.
 
jock52 said:
So far so good. Loving the product. Easy to apply and I feel amazing. Day 4!!!!
Just wondering do you get the (Happy high) type feeling after you put it on. Like 45 mins after? I just ask because I noticed a lot of people do and some don't.
 
nice!!!so would 4 week dianabol ,then 4 week dermacrine ,then 4 week sustain alpha be the best ,,or 4 weeks of dianabol and dermacrine together.then the sustAIN?
 
Is dermacrine only to be used in 4 week spells?or could you have 4 weeks dbol,8 weeks dermacrine,then pct with susatin?

You want to run Dbol and Dermacrine together, then Sustain for PCT.

No reason to do an 8 week cycle with Dbol or Dermacrine. Just stick to 4 week cycles. [you will recover faster and retain more gains]

-Pp
 
what about adding sustain to a cycle? I have some now, got it today :-)

We are still testing the idea of Sustain being used as a replacement for on cycle hCG -- by stimulating enough LH through GABAergic modulation and keeping the testes active.

If your going to experiement with this method, I suggest using 10pumps 2 days on, 5 days off, 2 days on, ect.

-Pp
 
Not sure if its been mentioned but DHEA/dermacrin is great for improving HDL levels in cholesterol. And anything that frees up more test is a no brainer.
 
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