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Dennis James arrested.....

gilly6993

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http://www.thairath.co.th/thairath1/2547/page1/feb/27/p1_6.php

although it's in Thai the story is that Dennis James, 4th place at the 2003 Mr. Olympia, has been arrested in Thailand by the DEA and the Thailand police. He was picked up while at the gym on Thursday morning. The preliminary discussion is that the arrest has to do with extacy, ketamine and steroids. He has been transported to Bangkok and after that, no one really knows anything.....
 
drugs in thai = death pen.


:anon:


should have known better not to fuck with X in that country


ya selling drugs is wrong and all but if u do it,make sure u know how big of a price u have to pay and thailand is a high price to pay
 
that totally sucks, hate to hear it. But damn guys, I don't think I'd even go to Thailand, let alone with ecstacy and AAS in my pocket while looking that yoked.
 
Too many people get caught up with the easy money of rec drugs. If things were so tough for him there he could have always just moved here and made plenthy of money being an elite BB. His physique is amazing.
 
The DEA has a very long reach. He must have been shipping stuff back. I'm guessing of course, I couldn't read the link.
 
im off to thailand in the summer again, its a very very dodgy place.
whilst i was there i was offered everything its cheap cheap cheap.
its really not worth it even if your getting a good deal. a guy from
the uk has recently just been caught with 500 Es he may get his
head chopped off within a months time. not good!!
 
genarr3 said:
I was always under the impression he lived there because steroids were legal.



LOL but worth living in that third world country?


most IFBB pros are here in the USA.....cali /vegas and all over usa......
 
Thats some crazy stuff..

Straight up the first thing I thought of is a movie called Paradise with Juaquin Phoenix, Vince Vaughn, Ann Hache... ugh. If you haven't seen it... good flick. Anyway, if you go to a country like that to avoid issues with AAS, and then end up getting into things they will cut your friggin head off for - well you defeated your own purpose.

Scary.
 
He was born in Germany so I think he was a military kid and a parent was stationed there at some point.
 
I understand that Thai police are more interested in shakedowns than justice.
 
Dial_tone said:
I understand that Thai police are more interested in shakedowns than justice.

Yes but in this case, the DEA was involved and probably provided all the intelligence.

Combine that with the fact that this is a huge story now and there will be interest in seeing him punished.... Watch that movie Paradise...
 
1. Innocent til proven guilty
2. Just because the paper reported it doesn't mean they reported it (the charges) accurately.
3. Any BB'er that deals in recreational drugs these days deserves the worst of everything that comes his/her way. You'd be hardpressed to find a big steroid bust that wasn't really about special K, meth, ecstasy or coke. The juice is usually just gravy for the Feds.
 
What a dumb fuck.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/3256836.stm

The Thai police work Dirty Harry style. Their drug war is for real, not a business venture profiting on civil asset forfeiture and building concentration camps for the weak and poor like ours is. 2,245 drugs suspects were killed between 1 February and 30 April of last year alone. Hell I don't think the Thai cops even carry handcuffs any more. If he wasn't a foreigner they probably would have taken one look at him and decided to save themselves the expense of feeding him.
 
Just because they claim DJ had rec drugs doesn't mean it's true.

A friend was picked up with a tub of Danabol which the Thai police claimed was valium due to shape and colour.

Another friend had a Marquis reagent test done on some oxymethelone tabs it went black, so the Thai pigs claimed it was speed.

Bottomline no matter what they find during a search they will claim you have rec drugs.

I wish him all the luck in the world and hope he has sufficient funds to escape sentancing.
 
The Movie "Jh1" was referring to is called

"Return to Paradise" Vince Vaughn, Juaquin Phoenix, Ann Hasche, it is an awesome movie. It is sure to leave you in awe, no matter what your taste is. Checkit out guys/girls.

Karma to you JH1
 
his Buddhist faith will tottally help him now :coffee:

actually all jokes aside I wish noone to get cagth by authorities of other countries its usually always a problem
 
Look at the background of the DJ photo, there's another BB'er being arrested at the same time ( who appears at least as big as DJ ).
 
You can buy gear in pharmacies in Thailand.
 
From Chad Nicholls:

I have been informed that it is exactly 18 pills (of X, no Ketamine was found). The problem falls with the law in Thailand; 15 or under is considered personal use - however, anything over that - it could be 16 pills or 16,000 pills - holds the same penalty - which could be either life imprisonment or even as unbelievable as this may sound - the death penalty! We just all need to hope that somehow this thing can be worked out so that DJ is brought back to the States and settle it here.

As of now it doesn't appear he's going to be extradited to the U.S.; could be in front of a Thai judge tomorrow or Monday.
 
What ... I thought that dbol grew on trees in Thailand? Are you sure he is in shit cause of the aas? It must be the X. Why do a lot of Very Big aas production companies and labs open shop in Thailand? Isnt it because of the slack laws? Can someone who knows about this set this straight? I was under the impression it is like mexico and south america, where you can walk into the pharms and buy your gear without a script?
 
roids are ok in thai. all sort of antibiotics are ok in thai. you dont need a script over there, just walk in, and barter with the pharmacist (LOL) for a good deal. the place is awash with fakes though. in some cases, up to 90% of what is on the shelf is fake (i had that in a lecture...tends to stick). x, on the other hand, IS NOT OK in thai. they slam you and slam you hard over there.

DJ better keep his wits about him, grease some palms and take this very very seriously. for his sake i hope its just possession, but if he was dealing...well what can i say, i fucking hate drug dealers
 
No its not good, Hopefully it will only be a possession charge if it is for MDMA. If it is for dealing I have no simpathy. In any other country it would be ok, Well not ok but at least you wont get your head chopped off. They dont muck about in Thailand and its well known so if your caught up to no good over there you deserve everything you get IMO
 
sorry to get off subject but Really? Do you mean the steroids are fake? I don't think so.. Most pharmacies here carry the british dispensary and body research, and organon; i know those are all real and thai fda approved; i didn't think there were any fakes in the thai pharmacies??

also sometimes the thai police arrest people and tell the newspaper they found something, and then it turns out that he really didn't have that thing, lets hope thats the case with the xtasy, as long as they didn't catch him with xtasy or speed then it's no big deal; but if it's true about the xtacy then it's big trouble..


GoldenDelicious said:
roids are ok in thai. all sort of antibiotics are ok in thai. you dont need a script over there, just walk in, and barter with the pharmacist (LOL) for a good deal. the place is awash with fakes though. in some cases, up to 90% of what is on the shelf is fake (i had that in a lecture...tends to stick). x, on the other hand, IS NOT OK in thai. they slam you and slam you hard over there.

DJ better keep his wits about him, grease some palms and take this very very seriously. for his sake i hope its just possession, but if he was dealing...well what can i say, i fucking hate drug dealers
 
mlong23 said:
What is MDMA?

MDMA (Ecstasy)

MDMA (3-4 methylenedioxymethamphetamine) is a synthetic, psychoactive drug chemically similar to the stimulant methamphetamine and the hallucinogen mescaline. Street names for MDMA include Ecstasy, Adam, XTC, hug, beans, and love drug. In 2002, an estimated 676,000 people in the U.S. age 12 and older used MDMA.*

Research in animals indicates that MDMA is neurotoxic; whether or not this is also true in humans is currently an area of intense investigation. MDMA can also be dangerous to health and, on rare occasions, lethal.

MDMA exerts its primary effects in the brain on neurons that use the chemical serotonin to communicate with other neurons. The serotonin system plays an important role in regulating mood, aggression, sexual activity, sleep, and sensitivity to pain.


Health Hazards
Cognitive Effects
Chronic users of MDMA perform more poorly than nonusers on certain types of cognitive or memory tasks. Some of these effects may be due to the use of other drugs in combination with MDMA, among other factors.

Physical Effects
In high doses, MDMA can interfere with the body's ability to regulate temperature. This can lead to a sharp increase in body temperature (hyperthermia), resulting in liver, kidney, and cardiovascular system failure.

Because MDMA can interfere with its own metabolism (breakdown within the body), potentially harmful levels can be reached by repeated drug use within short intervals.

Users of MDMA face many of the same risks as users of other stimulants such as cocaine and amphetamines. These include increases in heart rate and blood pressure, a special risk for people with circulatory problems or heart disease, and other symptoms such as muscle tension, involuntary teeth clenching, nausea, blurred vision, faintness, and chills or sweating.

Psychological Effects
These can include confusion, depression, sleep problems, drug craving, and severe anxiety. These problems can occur during and sometimes days or weeks after taking MDMA.

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Research in animals links MDMA exposure to long-term damage to neurons that are involved in mood, thinking, and judgment. A study in nonhuman primates showed that exposure to MDMA for only 4 days caused damage to serotonin nerve terminals that was evident 6 to 7 years later. While similar neurotoxicity has not been definitively shown in humans, the wealth of animal research indicating MDMA's damaging properties suggests that MDMA is not a safe drug for human consumption.

Hidden Risk: Drug Purity

Other drugs chemically similar to MDMA, such as MDA (methylenedioxyamphetamine, the parent drug of MDMA) and PMA (paramethoxyamphetamine, associated with fatalities in the U.S. and Australia) are sometimes sold as ecstasy. These drugs can be neurotoxic or create additional health risks to the user. Also, ecstasy tablets may contain other substances in addition to MDMA, such as ephedrine (a stimulant); dextromethorphan (DXM, a cough suppressant that has PCP-like effects at high doses); ketamine (an anesthetic used mostly by veterinarians that also has PCP-like effects); caffeine; cocaine; and methamphetamine. While the combination of MDMA with one or more of these drugs may be inherently dangerous, users might also combine them with substances such as marijuana and alcohol, putting themselves at further physical risk.


Extent of Use
Community Epidemiology Work Group (CEWG)**
CEWG members monitor drug use data sources for 21 metropolitan areas nationwide. In many of these areas monitored by CEWG members, MDMA, once used primarily at dance clubs, raves, and college scenes, is being used in a number of other social settings.

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2003 Monitoring the Future Study (MTF)***
MDMA use decreased in each grade, continuing the decline that began in 2002. Past year use among 8th-graders decreased from 2.9 percent to 2.1 percent; from 4.9 percent to 3.0 percent among 10th-graders; and from 7.4 to 4.5 percent among 12th-graders.

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* The 2002 National Survey on Drug Use and Health (NSDUH), produced by DHHS’s Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration, creates a new baseline for future national drug use trends. The survey is based on interviews with 68,126 respondents who were interviewed in their homes. The interviews represent 98 percent of the U.S. population age 12 and older. Not included in the survey are persons in the active military, in prisons, or other institutionalized populations, or who are homeless. Findings from the 2002 NSDUH are available online at www.DrugAbuseStatistics.samhsa.gov.

** CEWG researchers meet twice yearly to share emerging trends in drug abuse for 21 major U.S. metropolitan areas. This report was based on data published in the CEWG Advance Report for June 2003. CEWG reports are on NIDA’s Web site at www.drugabuse.gov.

*** Conducted annually since 1975, MTF assesses drug use and attitudes among 8th-, 10th-, and 12th-graders, college students, and young adults nationwide. The survey is conducted by the University of Michigan’s Institute for Social Research and is funded by NIDA. Copies of the latest published survey are available from the National Clearinghouse for Alcohol and Drug Information at 1-800-729-6686 or may be downloaded from www.monitoringthefuture.org.



Wrongun!
 
IMHO all that matters in Thai is money and you can buy anything including
the Police very easily.

Thai are relaxed regards AAS but when it comes to class A yes readily
available and very cheap the penalties are very very stiff.

Now there are two possibilities IMHO

1) DJ was making money from MDMA and got caught (grassed or seen)
2) He was set up as the oldest trick in the book in Thai if you upset
the wrong people who have influence you could pass out on a night out and wake up to photos
of you with small boys, 2Kg of Heroin etc etc.

It is true DJ has been in Thai for sometime (>10 years i think) mainly due to the lifestyle, relaxed attitude to AAS and his Thai wife but who knows.

We await more but should become clear soon.

One thing is for sure he is in a whole lot of trouble and certainly the wrong place to be involved in any sort of class A supply.

Wrongun!
 
Most Ecstasy pills contain only a tiny bit MDMA, in fact maybe none.
as they are made in tens of thousands the majority are very weak
in the UK the pills are shit, pure MDMA is not easy to get hold of, in
thailand no probs they will blow your head off same in US the pills are
strong. as far as it all goes if your gonna dabble in any of these drugs
ketamine is your best bet, im in no way saying its good for you but
you will not get addicted to it as it does get you very hammered and being
in a K-hole can be very scary but funny at the same time. as with ecstasy
people can have allergic reactions, although you are more likley to choke
on a cabbage leaf than die from an E. pills arent addictive in a sense
you take them every day but every weekend can fuck your head up. ive been
there.
 
This is some deep shit! I had the pleasure of meeting him in person and he is a very laid back and easy going guy. I feel bad for the bro and wish him the best of luck.
 
PowderDragon said:
sorry to get off subject but Really? Do you mean the steroids are fake? I don't think so.. Most pharmacies here carry the british dispensary and body research, and organon; i know those are all real and thai fda approved; i didn't think there were any fakes in the thai pharmacies??

lots and lots and lots of stuff over there is fake...from roids to antibiotics to vitamins

there are a lot of unscrupulous people over there who dont give a shit what happens to the sucker buying

what is especially sickening is fake life saving meds, like those used for malaria etc

i would just avoid asia myself...unless i was buying bladders and i could get them checked
 
mmm..maybe, but I'm not seeing it myself, for example all these little mom&pop pharms in Pattaya or Bangkok, that are on every corner; they all basically carry the same Body Research, British Dispensary, and Organon roids and I've never seen a fake, and I think BR and BD in particular would move to stamp out anyone who tried to copy their product and sell it openly in pharmacy's; since both those companies are based in Bangkok and a big part of their revenues come from foreigners visiting those little pharms..
:coffee:

GoldenDelicious said:
lots and lots and lots of stuff over there is fake...from roids to antibiotics to vitamins

there are a lot of unscrupulous people over there who dont give a shit what happens to the sucker buying

what is especially sickening is fake life saving meds, like those used for malaria etc

i would just avoid asia myself...unless i was buying bladders and i could get them checked
 
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