decisions decisions....

[KBgrl]

If one were on annavar for a while and wasnt really "feelin it" anymore, even with a dose increase (15mg ED) and wanted to try something else what would you , the general public suggest.

just for a 6 week cycle... b/c the anna cycle has been long enough .......


winny? test? primo? and why?

goal: put on a TAD more muscle size and lean out a little.

 

[NubianBeauty]

Test is best

 

[BrickGirl]

I love test, least side effects, best feeling, just keep the dosage low

 

[KBgrl]

ya think? I just read the test thread alllll the way down and.....!??!?!?!?!?!

what kind of test did you guys take? doses?

NYM is going to jump all over this thread and then im going to have to jump all over him...

 

[KBgrl]

btw BG.. I saw your new pics and you look beautiful as always! very nice work bg!! keep me updated with the comp.

 

[NY Muscle]

ya think? I just read the test thread alllll the way down and.....!??!?!?!?!?!

what kind of test did you guys take? doses?

NYM is going to jump all over this thread and then im going to have to jump all over him...

ask and you shall receive....

KB baby..what happened the last time you jumped on a particular "bandwagon" on the advice/info of a "well respected" board member...i use those terms LIGHTLY...

yes thats right...im trying to undo the damage his pathetic info caused to you....

if you havent exhausted all other options (winny/primo/low dose eq) then you arent ready for test baby...dont make me fuck u up!!

For real, dont go near test..atleast not yet...i told u i can turn u into a freak..but you dont need test..trust me on this.

 

[NY Muscle]

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[KBgrl]

NY.. for some ODD freak of a reason I trust your advice.

you sure though?? not even at a very low dose??

other people??? info.... experiences.. suggestions?

winny is a little unpredictable though.

 

[NY Muscle]

NY.. for some ODD freak of a reason I trust your advice.

you sure though?? not even at a very low dose??

other people??? info.... experiences.. suggestions?

winny is a little unpredictable though.

put it this way...if any bad side effects are gonna happen..thats an IF..its gonna happen with test...ive trained some girls who never went near test, just some anavar/winny/eq and the bitches are JACKED...you dont need test hun...exhaust all options baby before fucking around with test...trust me on this one.


Sure side effects are gonna happen with any drug, but knowing, for the most part (since EVERYONE is different), test is the most “offensive” side effect wise…then don’t do it until you try your other options..and u have TONS…
Have you stacked yet? Have you tried other drugs alone? Etc etc you have so much unchartered territorry,
Don’t waste time with test yet baby.


have you tried...

eq?

winny?

primo?

or

ox/winny stack
ox primo stack
ox eq stack

winny/primo stacj
winny eq stack

primo/eq stack?

see what i mean? dont bother with test..dont even waste time on that "bandwagon"

 

[Sassy69]

Just like with anyone else who comes here w/ questions - you are already well informed & at least know where to find information -- but you need to find out how things affect you personally first. Start slow, one thing at a time, if you see sides, get off, try something else.

In the interest of being conservative in AS use, don't forget that your most reliable tools for building/cutting are still diet, cardio , training. And they are cheaper too!

 

[Temple]

What would happen if you backed of the Ox to say 5mg or none at all for a few weeks and then did a higher dose cycle? I know a girl that got phenomenal results off of 20mg/d and she has done alot of other stuff. The diet and training are also down cold.

NYM - I refuse to turn this thread into the three ring test circus that some of the others have become but I must say that I find it very interesting that you are more comfortable telling a woman to shove shit in her ass that is made for horses than something that is naturally occuring in her own body. I have also seen some recent pics of a woman that I know has done several low dose test cycles and I must say that facially she is far more beautiful than she was when she was natural. Trust me - no one would ever mistake her for a man.

 

[NY Muscle]

What would happen if you backed of the Ox to say 5mg or none at all for a few weeks and then did a higher dose cycle? I know a girl that got phenomenal results off of 20mg/d and she has done alot of other stuff. The diet and training are also down cold.

NYM - I refuse to turn this thread into the three ring test circus that some of the others have become but I must say that I find it very interesting that you are more comfortable telling a woman to shove shit in her ass that is made for horses than something that is naturally occuring in her own body. I have also seen some recent pics of a woman that I know has done several low dose test cycles and I must say that facially she is far more beautiful than she what when she was natural. Trust me - no one would ever mistake her for a man.

you ladies have made the decision to take juice, thats not MY decision...so from what we have available to us is what i was suggesting.. ive seen people take eq and take test, they all had worse side effects on the test...and if u say "low dose test is fine" well MAYBE for some people...and why bother with low dose test..just take the other drugs i listed, stack them and/or take higher doses...exhaust all options before taking test.

 

[NubianBeauty]

KB, I was only kidding in my first post to this thread I think you should try Winny first... see what happens w/ that and if no sides add the Ox back in.. that is a great stack!! You will see gains with it.... I will be stacking the two along w/ GH in about 8 wks I also have Test prop and will be trying it later... ann has had success w/ prop... maybe she will jump on here soon

 

[tripleV]

hey girl, id go with winny, but thats all i ever done so i cant really make any other suggestions, i do know that i gained solid muscle on it...good luck with whatever u choose....

i will only ever stick with winny, ox and primo......then we shall see what happens but thats way out there and far down the road,,,,

 

[hardbdygrl]

KB, i was on 10mg of ox for awhile,, didnt really FEEL any thing from it. I then upped the ox and added some winny and Im a hppy camper

 

[lil k]

hey girl, id go with winny, but thats all i ever done so i cant really make any other suggestions, i do know that i gained solid muscle on it...good luck with whatever u choose....

i will only ever stick with winny, ox and primo......then we shall see what happens but thats way out there and far down the road,,,,

agreed...go with winny....make sure to keep your cycle no more than 4-6 weeks tops...take ALA the whole time at least 900-1200mg a day (liver), i made awesome gains on a winny only cycle....i have done two winny cycles to day...i never exceeded 12mg a day....great stuff...i didnt get any sides...except real horney! lol and i am always that way....

i am doing var the same as you right now...i dont really feel it...but i am noticing it kicking in more as i up my dosage...its taking longer than the winny did to "kick in"

 

[KBgrl]

the only reason i cant take the ox anymore is b/c its getting to damn $$$$!!!

wellll i was going to go with the winny but i got my hands on some EQ for free sooooo today was my first shot ever. never been stabbed before. it was mighty... ummmm delicious . of course having a gorgeous blue eyed huge hunk of man shoot me wasnt that bad either. hehe.. hes going to be injecter from now on whata guy!!!

anywho... any suggestions...warnings etc with the eq. it will be stacked with the ox for another week and ive been on GH and will be on that for a while.

 

[NY Muscle]

of course having a gorgeous blue eyed huge hunk of man shoot me wasnt that bad either. hehe.. hes going to be injecter from now on whata guy!!!

um leave me out of this u ass

what does u doing?
stay under 100 or so mg

 

[KBgrl]

um leave me out of this u ass

what does u doing?
stay under 100 or so mg

lol... ohhhhh NYM...you are too much sometimes!! Im giving you a ring in 10 min so sit by your phone waiting for my call ! NOW! hehe

 

[Realgains]

Many ladies tried test in low doses and really liked it. Others have done well with nandrolone phenlyprop. Vikingwife did 20mg of nandrolone phenylprop with no sides at all, except increased sex drive.

Bill Llewellyn is of the opinion that Nadrolone is the best for the ladies as it is less androgenic than test, winny, and even primo(his opinion) He suggests Nandrolone phenylprop.

Daeos wife did Primo but got bad sides....did test and the sides were minimal. I think winny was more harsh for her than test too. I have heard and read that winny can be pretty harsh, especially on the voice.

I think it is very important to begin with an ester with a short half life so if sides come on that you do not like then perhaps you would have time to bail out without permantent alterations , such as a lowered voice . This leaves primo out IMO unless you start with a very light dose.

Dose is of course very important. Always start small.
Dose recommendations for starters....Test Prop 15mg every three days. Nandrolone Phenylprop 15-20mg every three days.
Don't forget duration. The longer you are on the greater your chances are for virilization. Perhaps it is best to limit time on to six weeks for a first cycle then do a longer low dose cycle latter.

I have had feed back from ladies that have had their voices lowered. They say that the warning signs can be a cough, raspy voice, throat ache( not soreness) scratchy feeling etc. It may be possible to avoid any voice lowering if one stops the roid as soon as these sides signs are noted.

Can't beat Test for the price and feelings of well being and energy, so it seems.

Remember though everyone responds differently to roids and this is no different with the ladies. Some can get away with little to no sides, to a point, and others get sides right away and even on small doses. I think that if you are a naturally muscular mesomorphic girl that need to shave her legs frequently then chances are you will get sides more so than those ladies that are near hair free and not so muscular.

 

[Debu]

uhhh , SPATTS, I think it's time for a spreadsheet on who did what, for how long, their sides or no sides, how much it costs, results they've seen(size, strength, hardness, leaness) , etc...etc... really though, I'm not kidding...all the info in one tidy place?

 

[Sassy69]

Here's a shameless plug for Realgain's post on the top of the sticky list!

 

[KEL]

uhhh , SPATTS, I think it's time for a spreadsheet on who did what, for how long, their sides or no sides, how much it costs, results they've seen(size, strength, hardness, leaness) , etc...etc... really though, I'm not kidding...all the info in one tidy place?

I agree- so much has changed since WL's "what are you on?" post

 

[KBgrl]

I agree- so much has changed since WL's "what are you on?" post

true dat!

for some reason ive always realllllly had an umm urge to try EQ and then it just kinda fell into my lap so here i am. very excited to see how it all goes!!

 

[NubianBeauty]

Make sure you let me know when it "kicks" in Keep us updated on EVERYTHING!! Sides, pumps, strength increase, ..etc... How's your diet? High protein I hope

 

[NY Muscle]

lol... ohhhhh NYM...you are too much sometimes!! Im giving you a ring in 10 min so sit by your phone waiting for my call ! NOW! hehe

dont u be calling me i dont want no avon u stalker u LOL

heres my # 212 kiss my ass

lol jk

 

[KBgrl]

NB...diet is good... 40/40/20. Ill keep ya updated. when should I "feel it?" Man I hope I dont break out. ive been taking extra supps as to avoid that side so we'll see.

NY.... tx for straightening things out!

 

[NY Muscle]

NY.... tx for straightening things out!

no problem, just make sure you listen to ME for now on, and not the dopes you got your info from

 

[wyst]

the only reason i cant take the ox anymore is b/c its getting to damn $$$$!!!

wellll i was going to go with the winny but i got my hands on some EQ for free sooooo today was my first shot ever. never been stabbed before. it was mighty... ummmm delicious . of course having a gorgeous blue eyed huge hunk of man shoot me wasnt that bad either. hehe.. hes going to be injecter from now on whata guy!!!

anywho... any suggestions...warnings etc with the eq. it will be stacked with the ox for another week and ive been on GH and will be on that for a while.

Oh, please please please let us know how this goes, day by day or at least week by week. One of the only things I've been able to find around here is EQ, and I've heard so little first person stuff about it being used by women. So much of what I've read is friend of a friend stuff. I'm not ready to cycle yet, but I'd like to have your experiences to draw on when I am ready!

xoxo

Wyst

 

[Genie]

If one were on annavar for a while and wasnt really "feelin it" anymore, even with a dose increase (15mg ED) and wanted to try something else what would you , the general public suggest.

just for a 6 week cycle... b/c the anna cycle has been long enough .......


winny? test? primo? and why?

goal: put on a TAD more muscle size and lean out a little.

Can you go into more detail on how Anavar worked for you? Success, side effects? I am considering and would like to learn more about it first hand.

 

[KBgrl]

Re: Re: decisions decisions....

Can you go into more detail on how Anavar worked for you? Success, side effects? I am considering and would like to learn more about it first hand.

my first cycle of anna worked great!! strength gains were insane!! I gained a ton of muscle.... went from 120 to 140 and then held steady at 130-135. bf was about 20 and went down to 17. second cycle didnt really do anything at all oddly enough. my strength was like it was pre first cycle.. and i didnt really see any difference in my body. I bumped it up to 15mg and nada! sooo now im on EQ and some other goodies..

sides with anna during the first cycle was minor irritability..went away within a couple weeks. minor break outs... took care of that with some vitamin B5.. and clit sensitivity. thas it!

 

[NubianBeauty]

KB.... PM!!

 

[NubianBeauty]

Re: Re: Re: Re: decisions decisions....

Did you by any chance switch labs from the first cycle to the second? Like from tt to BTG or anything?

She did spatts

 

[Temple]

What was she on and what did she switch to??
I have seen a major difference in the Bratis compared to the TT. Am getting more results on a lower dose of the Brats....

 

[NubianBeauty]

I think it's a lab issue especially from what I have been hearing about TTokkyo not being Ox... don't know if it's true or not because I haven't actually seen any lab results.

 

[NubianBeauty]

What was she on and what did she switch to??
I have seen a major difference in the Bratis compared to the TT. Am getting more results on a lower dose of the Brats....

She switched from TT to BTG.

 

[Temple]

Maybe start a new thread Spats. I can tell you that there are major differences in the way I am responding to the two. List out all the labs and check who has done which ones perhaps....