Deca newbie

[zoarbranch]

Ok yall I'm fairly new at this so don't bash me to much. Can I get some gains off of Deca alone (without stacking). I'm not looking for huge gains just add some muscle. I'm thinking of running my Deca at 600/wk for 10 weeks along with a good lean diet. What should I expect from this. Like I said, I'm new here so don't bash me too hard just looking for help. Deca is all I'm wanting to do so I just wanna know if this will work alone. Thanks

 

[jtmdell]

Welcome to EF, Yes you can get good gains. But running deca alone (without test) may present a problem if you have any sort of sex life. Plus it stays in your system a very long time. What made you choose a deca only cycle?

 

[zoarbranch]

nothing really, I've know a couple who do deca alone and I wanted to try it. And yes being in my system for a long time isn't really a problem. Is 600/wk too much? I see where people run it that high some and because I'm doing deca alone, I thought maybe I should bump it to that amount. Also, I understand deca to not give the sides that the bigger ones will. Is this correct? Thanks for the response

 

[Sandman93]

Makes sure you have an anti prolactin on hand like caber.

 

[Zinergy]

No you can't get good gains on deca alone.

You'll lose all of it once you come off.

 

[bigorse]

imo you could have deca as the main drug in your cycle at 400-600mg ew but i would run atleast 150mg of test a week to negate the low t sides. at 150mg you should see little to no side on test and not much if any more bloat than deca alone.

 

[Oxbow-]

Personnaly I only use deca as my cycle basement and I keep my gains. But yes always add test with it. Never heard you lose all your gains after Deca. Maybe the reason is it is hard to recover and yes if you fail your pct (post cycle therapy) you will lose most of your gains. You can choose NPP, thats what I would do.

No reason to go above 450-500. It will fuck your cholesterol and rise your blood pressure without adding more mass.
The reason why I choose deca is it is the only drug with anavar to save your hair completely.

450 Deca and 250 test E with anavar can make great gains.

Deca has a lot of potential, actually this is the best compound for mass with dbol and tren (with test) and it is mild in side effects. It heals the joints too. There is the shut down but if you take NPP and HCG you will recover as a charm.

 

[zoarbranch]

ok cool. so should I take clomid or something like it after a deca only cycle? Also, I want to inject in the shoulder have any of you done this? Rather than the butt or thy area? next cycle I do, i'll be sure to get some test and run about 150/wk.

 

[bigorse]

i would atleast run some transderm or some kind or test along side this cycle. no test will probably make you very lethargic and a make a hot naked girl seem very unappealing to you!

 

[zoarbranch]

what is the best way to keep most of your gain after coming off of a cycle?

 

[bigorse]

honestly i would reccomend this:

1-10 deca 400mg ew
1- 11 test e 200mg ew
13-17 clomid 50 25 25 25
13-17 nolva 40 40 20 20
13-17 test booster/libido enhancer

 

[bigorse]

you need to maintain diet and training during pct to maintain as much of the gains as possible

 

[bigorse]

possibly some hcg to but im not so savy on that

 

[Zinergy]

what is the best way to keep most of your gain after coming off of a cycle?

Don't run deca first of all, go with NPP and test prop.

 

[bigorse]

Don't run deca first of all, go with NPP and test prop.

i would agree with this too as long as pinning isnt a problem. recovery will be much smoother with the shorter esters.

 

[doublebicep]

what is the best way to keep most of your gain after coming off of a cycle?

hcg during cycle and a well planned PCT. NPP is a good option for easier recovery. Shorter half life then deca.

 

[Deltoid_87]

No you can't get good gains on deca alone.

You'll lose all of it once you come off.

Implying that deca alone will not make any gains but water is basically saying it's worthless steroid .. of course itll make gains on alone, but I wouldn't run it without some form of test...

I run high dose deca cycles, with a very small amount of test just to keep everything in function. no oralls, let me tell u Purely relying on deca alone for gains Iv made some of the biggest leanest gains ever.. up to 1200mg a week mind u.. at that dose deca is Boss! If u can utilize that much hormone. Some may only need 600mg for equivalent gains.

No ai. No oralls. No sides, for me. I do add cabaser, so I can cum! And hcg towards the end of the course.

 

[Zinergy]

Implying that deca alone will not make any gains but water is basically saying it's worthless steroid .. of course itll make gains on alone, but I wouldn't run it without some form of test...

I run high dose deca cycles, with a very small amount of test just to keep everything in function. no oralls, let me tell u Purely relying on deca alone for gains Iv made some of the biggest leanest gains ever.. up to 1200mg a week mind u.. at that dose deca is Boss! If u can utilize that much hormone. Some may only need 600mg for equivalent gains.

No ai. No oralls. No sides, for me. I do add cabaser, so I can cum! And hcg towards the end of the course.

Do you blast and cruise?

 

[Stackinplates]

I'm looking at his avatar and im sure he does has some good size on him ur really only are gonna keep that size is u blast and cruise or ur running cycles back to back year round with minimal "off time"

But have been wrong before

Do ya blast and cruise ?!
I as well would like to know

 

[shaved_ape]

Why would you bother with HCG if you blast and cruise?

 

[Deltoid_87]

I'm looking at his avatar and im sure he does has some good size on him ur really only are gonna keep that size is u blast and cruise or ur running cycles back to back year round with minimal "off time"

But have been wrong before

Do ya blast and cruise ?!
I as well would like to know

Yea u cracked it second gues
Actually that pic is a few years old iv not been on the forums in a long time.. I'm a bit bigger now.
No i don't blast and cruise I am off cycle now and I won't jump back on till after 6 weeks or so till I feel my natural hormone levels have stabilized. Maybe a good 8 weeks or so this time as I was on for a little longer than usual. 6 months. I'll prob get bashed for that here as well as my minimal time off but I will lose gains being off any longer I'm only human.

My cycles are 4 and half months on 1 and half months off... I have blood test for testosterone leveks after most cycles and my hormone levels restore to normal range after 4-5 weeks.. also test for heart and cholesterol.. so far so good health wise.

Iv run some heavy cycles.
Up to 800mg tren a week
2400mg test
2000mg eq

Deca is my favourite and easiest to cope with at high doses. Practically zero sides for me. Struggle to control oestrogen on high amounts of test and eq.. tren is just dirty I feel rotten on it sweats lethargy and cardiovascular struggle.

 

[Stackinplates]

Yea I was going to say if you don't blast or cruise you have a very minimal time off because it's hard to maintain that much mass!

 

[Zinergy]

Yea u cracked it second gues

Actually that pic is a few years old iv not been on the forums in a long time.. I'm a bit bigger now.

No i don't blast and cruise I am off cycle now and I won't jump back on till after 6 weeks or so till I feel my natural hormone levels have stabilized. Maybe a good 8 weeks or so this time as I was on for a little longer than usual. 6 months. I'll prob get bashed for that here as well as my minimal time off but I will lose gains being off any longer I'm only human.



My cycles are 4 and half months on 1 and half months off... I have blood test for testosterone leveks after most cycles and my hormone levels restore to normal range after 4-5 weeks.. also test for heart and cholesterol.. so far so good health wise.



Iv run some heavy cycles.

Up to 800mg tren a week

2400mg test

2000mg eq



Deca is my favourite and easiest to cope with at high doses. Practically zero sides for me. Struggle to control oestrogen on high amounts of test and eq.. tren is just dirty I feel rotten on it sweats lethargy and cardiovascular struggle.

That's impressive then, it's very hard to hold onto gains after long and heavy runs like that.

Good job man.


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[for_ever_beast]

Ok yall I'm fairly new at this so don't bash me to much. Can I get some gains off of Deca alone (without stacking). I'm not looking for huge gains just add some muscle. I'm thinking of running my Deca at 600/wk for 10 weeks along with a good lean diet. What should I expect from this. Like I said, I'm new here so don't bash me too hard just looking for help. Deca is all I'm wanting to do so I just wanna know if this will work alone. Thanks

Nooopp dont do deca for first time. Even worse alone!! If you do say bye to ur wangg for a long while. Just stick to 500mg test cyp for 12 weeks you will see far better results then just deca..

 

[wootoom]

Anyone ask how old this guy is?