Deca for a female?

[bunnymt]

Hmm. about Deca: gave good strength and muscles gains.
Also gave: facial hair growth, increased libido (if that is possible, ), deepened voice, and more texturized hair.

The strength and muscle gains, being the point of the supplement, were notably significant and did outweigh the negative side-effects.

 

[The Shadow]

Good anabolic, much better than Eq mg for mg in opinion. Benefit to side ratio varies widely in women. Some have few sides at 50 mg/wk with considerable anabolic effects, others get significant virilization.

W6

LOL

I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains....

EQ has been 4 for 4 in terms of lean mass with very few sides....up to 40 mg per week

 

[Realgains]

LOL

I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains....

EQ has been 4 for 4 in terms of lean mass with very few sides....up to 40 mg per week

I always figured EQ to be just a little more androgenic than nandrolone.

I know of a top national level female competitor that uses winny, deca, anavar BUT cannot use EQ as it causes virilization problems for her.

Everyone reacts a little different to various roids though.

My wife wants to try EQ next.

RG

 

[wilson6]

"I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains...."

and I can say exactly the same thing about Eq (mostly water and little gains; doses required for results got into the range that produced sides) which is why the bottom line is individual response. No one can predict how anyone one person (especially women) benefits or sides is going to respond to a particular AAS.

It is all theory until someone actually tries it, and assuming what they get really is what it is supposed to be.

W6

 

[Iron Queen]

If her goal was to put on a ton of muscle, not just lose bodyfat and tone then I'd say go for it... Put her on anavar. Deca will give her sides. My first cycle was deca alone, 50mgs/week and I got all sides possible. Voice (most noticeable), clit enlargement, hair growth.... but had a 20 lb gain and held 50% of it. Wish I could have another cycle like that again. lol.

But be safe, it will give her sides, if she's very worried about her voice dont give it to her. If anything do 50 every 10 days.... but no closer. Live and learn I guess.... For me it was worth it because I wanna be massive. ha ha.

IQ

 

[The Shadow]

"I totally disagree.....I think EQ is superior...I personally know 6 women who tried it.......gained MASSIVE water weight and had zero gains...."

and I can say exactly the same thing about Eq (mostly water and little gains; doses required for results got into the range that produced sides) which is why the bottom line is individual response. No one can predict how anyone one person (especially women) benefits or sides is going to respond to a particular AAS.

It is all theory until someone actually tries it, and assuming what they get really is what it is supposed to be.

W6

True enough.....I know in at least one of those deca instances that it was the real deal as it was lab tested.

 

[wilson6]

I agree IQ. In fact one of the women that I can think of had originally started with Eq, about 30 - 50 mg/wk, didn't get much out of it strength wise, but did hold water. She tried upping the dose (around 75 mg) but started to get sides (acne and voice).

Switched to TT ox at 5 then 10 mg/d and did far better. A little acne, but far more anabolic effects (started growing like a weed). Didn't do anything to her voice, but significantly increased libido.

Then I can think of the girl that increased her bench from 135 to 205 on 50 - 75 TT deca/wk over a several month period of time. A little acne, huge increase in sex drive to the point that is was very bothersome, but nothing else. Held some water, but also had some serious increases in strength.

Then there are those that Corn had mentioned, not much other than sides and ALOT of water on Deca.

Overall, if a female is bent on trying something, it should probably be OX or perhaps a LITTLE t-gel or short acting ester unless there are willing to accept the possibility of permanent virilizing sides (voice, clit and facial hair). Well, at least the facial hair can be lasered I suppose.

W6

 

[The Shadow]

Wilson - it seems that women have more problems mg:mg with water retention on Deca thaN MEN....do you think it is related to the progestin altering, making it "IUD" like?

 

[wilson6]

"it seems that women have more problems mg:mg with water retention on Deca than MEN"

Come to think of it, that does seem to be true. Good question. Perhaps MS might have some insight on this?

W6

 

[MS]

If I had to guess re: Deca and water weight in women, I would say it is prolly due to its binding like progesterone, but doesn't act 100% like progesterone. Similar deal to a lot of the progestins used in OCs. Remember that natural progesterone anatagonizes the fluid retaining activity of estrogen (via mineralocorticoid antagonism), and most progestins to not have this function. This could make Deca a competitive inhibitor of progesterone's anti- mineralocorticoid ability. Men would not notice this as much because they have much lower estrogen levels.