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iamnikvanhelsing
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Are they ok to use together in a cycle?
Deca and Tren
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LVTitan
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i dont know, i've heard several different sides to this myself.
i've heard that deca and tren "fight for same receptors" since they are both nandrolone based... but i dont know if that is just a myth or not.
also deca will tend to add some intramuscular fat, and tren is supposed to help cut fat right ?
again i have no idea i'm just throwing some things to think about out there. i know it's not much help.
i've heard that deca and tren "fight for same receptors" since they are both nandrolone based... but i dont know if that is just a myth or not.
also deca will tend to add some intramuscular fat, and tren is supposed to help cut fat right ?
again i have no idea i'm just throwing some things to think about out there. i know it's not much help.
Izzman
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muscleup said:
Just came off this very cycle the last week or so of Tren (75mg EOD), NPP (150mg 2X Week), and Var (30mg ED) for 6 weeks only, gained about 17 or so Lbs after initial water weight was dropped and thankfully am currently holding. Was a very sweet stack indeed, strength was UNBELIVABLE and the mass came so quick it was amazing. However I noticed that I had to end it at 6 weeks due to the fact that gains seem to have stopped around 4-5 weeks or so even after bumping up my cals, so maybe there is some truth to receptor competition among the nandrolones or maybe the body can only put on so much mass in such a short time, I really don't know. But that's my story.
FlexManning
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They will work okay together, it's really just a waste to combine them. If you want safety it should be something like deca and primo, and if you want fast results you want tren and and a compound that's not nor-test based. When I say they will work okay together, I mean 375mg a week of tren and 200 mg a week of deca might bring better results than 575mg a week of deca (that number's just for example) but there's just really not much point in stacking the two in most people's opinions.
But then again, I can see a guy saying he wants the benefits of tren but he wants some deca for joint benefits and isn't scared of "deca dick". As far as suppression, if we're talking HPTA suppression I hate to tell all these test freaks but TEST is in fact much more suppressive than deca. Even 200-400mg of test weekly causes near 100% suppression of natural test within a month or so. Deca simply gets it's reputation for suppression from the fact that it reduces natural test while not supplying any exogenous test.
Long and short of it though is that it's not an ideal stack as there are much better combinations for almost any purpose intended. IOW, this is not the stack to "order" but if you already have it lying around you are not a nut for doing it.
But then again, I can see a guy saying he wants the benefits of tren but he wants some deca for joint benefits and isn't scared of "deca dick". As far as suppression, if we're talking HPTA suppression I hate to tell all these test freaks but TEST is in fact much more suppressive than deca. Even 200-400mg of test weekly causes near 100% suppression of natural test within a month or so. Deca simply gets it's reputation for suppression from the fact that it reduces natural test while not supplying any exogenous test.
Long and short of it though is that it's not an ideal stack as there are much better combinations for almost any purpose intended. IOW, this is not the stack to "order" but if you already have it lying around you are not a nut for doing it.
LVTitan said:
You got it right, BabyTiTan....
Both of them compete for the same receptors, thus they won't work together efficiently as say if you stacked Deca and Winstrol -or- Tren and Winstrol.
The point is to stack drugs that don't compete and work via different receptors to maximize the anabolic effect. That's the idea anyway.
DIV
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Gotta disagree with you Div on one point. There is only ONE AR receptor. All androgens/anabolics will attach to it, they don't "compete" with each other simply b/c they're different compounds. I've used both together and separately, they are just as effective. However, as they are different compounds, the exert different anabolic effects via other means than simply increasing nitrogen retention. Thus, they would actually benefit from each other, not compete. As long as you have empty androgen receptors, ANY steroid you take will fill them. If you're taking more gear than you have androgen receptors, then binding affinity comes into play, but that is not the case here. All that aside, tren/deca can lead to progesterone sides and loss of sexual functioning. Unless you already know how they'll affect you, I'd pick one or the other, and have dostinex handy. Also, an HRT amount of test would be good for most people to keep sex drive normal.
