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stalker23

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I got so much help with my squat, that i wanted to get my deads critiqued too. I it looks like my starting position is really high, but ive tried to start lower, and it just doesn't feel right. I also look like my back is rounding, and im not sure if its a big problem, or just natural as the weight gets heavier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6q8pAam0nw

-Back rounding to much?
-Start position-hips to high?
-Going to straight up- need to pull back more?

thanks
 
Back seems straight enough.
Starting Position? (bumb for more replies)
Pull back more so you lock out your back
 
you don't stretch for long enough before deads that is why your legs are bending too much. Just check, that, lower weight to perfect technique. Its your top priority, not the weight on the bar.

One trainer told me this morning, that if you have bad technique its like you owning a car, but you don't know how to drive it.
 
Subzeero said:
you don't stretch for long enough before deads that is why your legs are bending too much. Just check, that, lower weight to perfect technique. Its your top priority, not the weight on the bar.
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His legs are bending too much?
 
thegoodfoods said:
His legs are bending too much?
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yes, after watching it the tenth time, i still think its semi squat and semi dead. You should bend your knees just enough to prevent them from locking thats all.
 
you have to pull your shoulders more backwards when in standing position, rest looks fine, and hm.. you eventually should start with your legs lower, so that you can use your quads to get the bar moving
 
Subzeero said:
yes, after watching it the tenth time, i still think its semi squat and semi dead. You should bend your knees just enough to prevent them from locking thats all.
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I disagree, why would you want such a stiff deadlift? He's not doing hams here, when I deadlift I am a bit above 90.
 
youngguns said:
I disagree, why would you want such a stiff deadlift? He's not doing hams here, when I deadlift I am a bit above 90.
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IMO, deads are less affective, when knees are bent too much. Hams do seem to be doing some work, with the technique he is applying.

I am very orthodox when it comes to deads. I guess its just my opinion. If i wanted my hams to work, i would be doing squats instead.

ps. i am not saying he should be doing stiff legged deads. He can bend knees but not that much.
 
I do not do deads for my quads- i do them for back mostly, and hamstrings. So i should not go as low if these are my goals?
 
Those look fine for a standard deadlift, but if you are trying to isolate hams you should do stiff leg deadlifts.
 
wHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT?

YOUR FORM LOOKS GOOD AS FAR AS YOUR BACK GOES BUT YOU NEED TO GET LOWER WITH YOUR BUTT. IF YOU WATCH THE 1ST LIFT YOUR BUTT IS PRETTY HIGH AND EACH LIFT YOU SEEM TO LOWER IT JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE BY THE 3RD REP YOU LOOK PRETTY CLOSE. BUT I WOULD TRY TO GET MY BUT JUST A LITTLE LOWER NOT MUCH. ALSO WHEN YOU ARE ALL THE WAY UP YOU NEED TO PULL YOUR SHOULDERS BACK A LITTLE MORE ALMOST TO THE POINT THAT YOU ARE KIND OF LEANING BACK THIS MAKE FOR A COMPLETE LIFT. SO THE BAR SHOULD BE ON YOUR HIPS. " I WILL TRY TO FIND SOME PICTURES."
 
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Everything looked great except your not bringing your shoulders all the way back at the top. You're stopping the rep right before being fully locked out.
Also listening to heavy metal while lifting heavy metal can only help:)
 
So im not going down far enough? i feel like the depth im going is my "strongest" position (every time i try to go lower, i lift much lighter...)

but maybe thats the way its supposed to be..like going form partial squats to ATG? is this right? thanks
 
stalker23 said:
So im not going down far enough? i feel like the depth im going is my "strongest" position (every time i try to go lower, i lift much lighter...)

but maybe thats the way its supposed to be..like going form partial squats to ATG? is this right? thanks
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Louie Simmons says: "Which is stronger your 1/2 squat or your full squat? 1/2 squat of course is stronger, so why try to full squat your deadlift?"
Your start position is spot on, just work on finishing the lift.
 
i agree with extra strong. this dudes form is not on at all. could be worse. the way you do it just imagine sitting in a chair. you are starting with your knees locked already. if you start in that upright position you are not working much legs which is what the deadlift is suppose to hit along with lower back. just get your ass down like your sitting in a chair, then stand up out of the chair when you lift.
 
Things i did notice:

1. Starting WAY too high. Get your ass down and back. And pull your shoulder blades together.
2. Your shoulders should be even with the bar (from a side angle...i usually peek in the mirror before my set to make sure that i am even or behind the bar.)

I disagree with powerbuilder, you are NOT in your optical possition to pull. Yes maybe your back is strong as hell, so it is compensating. But when the weight gets heavy, your not gonna be able to pull it up with all your back. The deadlift works the legs, get them involved more. Drive your heels through the floor during the pull.

I powerlift, and my main goal before a lift is to shorten the bar traveling distance to make it easier for me to lift. So even though im making the traveling distance shorter, i still make sure my ass is down to drive out of the hole. If you start 'kicking up' your hips and your ass, when the weight gets heavy your not going to be able to finish the lift.

Also, Please get a 3 rep max lift, or a 1 rep max single. So we can see your form break down too. (not putting u down, as when we can see your form go to complete shit at a weight, we can pinpoint weakspots.)
 
Yes the deadlift works the legs - The back of the legs!!!
Don't take my word for it (655 in competition at 6'6" tall - a long way to move the bar), just watch the deadlift vid's of Ed Coan, Andy Bolton, Gary Heisey, or anybody at Westside Barbell. Some are available on YouTube.
mm107: Pulling your shoulder blades back at the start of the lift INCREASES the distance of travel = BAD. Try it out yourself. Pulling my shoulder blades together shortens my reach 3" which means I have to bend over 3" (or in your case squat down 3") further to reach the bar.
Stalker23: Your young and your quest for knowledge will help take you far it the sport. At some point you're going to need to use a belt, I suggest a Inzer Lever Belt, the lever is quaranteed for life - and they honor that quarantee.
Best in strength.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
Yes the deadlift works the legs - The back of the legs!!!
Don't take my word for it (655 in competition at 6'6" tall - a long way to move the bar), just watch the deadlift vid's of Ed Coan, Andy Bolton, Gary Heisey, or anybody at Westside Barbell. Some are available on YouTube.
mm107: Pulling your shoulder blades back at the start of the lift INCREASES the distance of travel = BAD. Try it out yourself. Pulling my shoulder blades together shortens my reach 3" which means I have to bend over 3" (or in your case squat down 3") further to reach the bar.
Stalker23: Your young and your quest for knowledge will help take you far it the sport. At some point you're going to need to use a belt, I suggest a Inzer Lever Belt, the lever is quaranteed for life - and they honor that quarantee.
Best in strength.
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hey power, thanks for taking your time to respond.

Im assuming you lift roundbacked? If i dont pull my shoulders back i round out very bad. Maybe you stay tight? I have always learned to try to pull w/ a straight back and not rounded, maybe this is where we differ?

Also, Andy bolton and those westside guys are freaks. They are lucky. Andy has not so good form at all on his Deadlift, but manages to get it up w/o a problem.

I know it might seem you loose some reach, and you probably do, but it could help keep everything tight.

655 @ 6'6 is very good man, very impressive.
520 @ 5'11 is what i pulled las meet. @ 181lbs tho.


I understand what you mean tho power, i do, as some people i know, deadlift with a rounded back, i guess, when i round my back i seriously loose tighness and form.
 
mm107 said:
Things i did notice:

1. Starting WAY too high. Get your ass down and back. And pull your shoulder blades together.
2. Your shoulders should be even with the bar (from a side angle...i usually peek in the mirror before my set to make sure that i am even or behind the bar.)

I disagree with powerbuilder, you are NOT in your optical possition to pull. Yes maybe your back is strong as hell, so it is compensating. But when the weight gets heavy, your not gonna be able to pull it up with all your back. The deadlift works the legs, get them involved more. Drive your heels through the floor during the pull.

I powerlift, and my main goal before a lift is to shorten the bar traveling distance to make it easier for me to lift. So even though im making the traveling distance shorter, i still make sure my ass is down to drive out of the hole. If you start 'kicking up' your hips and your ass, when the weight gets heavy your not going to be able to finish the lift.

Also, Please get a 3 rep max lift, or a 1 rep max single. So we can see your form break down too. (not putting u down, as when we can see your form go to complete shit at a weight, we can pinpoint weakspots.)
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YES. Nice! And please deload the weight....
 
mm107: Your closing in on triple bodyweight in the Deadlift. I'm unlikely to ever be able to say that. Way to go.
There's no one right way to do the lift. Everybody's bone structure is different, and has different leverages.
I don't consider myself a round backed lifter, but you got me wondering. This Friday I'll have myself video'd from the side to see.
Did you see the Vid with Bolton Vs Magnusson. Makes me want to lift HEAVY every day - LOL.
Take care.
 
Powerbuilder333 said:
mm107: Your closing in on triple bodyweight in the Deadlift. I'm unlikely to ever be able to say that. Way to go.
There's no one right way to do the lift. Everybody's bone structure is different, and has different leverages.
I don't consider myself a round backed lifter, but you got me wondering. This Friday I'll have myself video'd from the side to see.
Did you see the Vid with Bolton Vs Magnusson. Makes me want to lift HEAVY every day - LOL.
Take care.
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LOL very true, i got deadlift vids on my youtube page so i can get pumped at work lmao.

yea, i dont mean roundbacked in a bad way at all. Some people, like you said, have different bone structure and are in a better possition to pull exactly how you are saying. (ex: Andy, etc).

Even if you do lift the DL with a rounded back, thats the way your gonna do it, your body has built its mass around that form and its most likely the best way for you.

Thanks for responding again.
(i got a deadlift vid of this dude bleeding from his nose while finishing the lift, insane)
 
k thanks alot.

I'll work on my form for a couple weeks, trying to get my hips a little lower from teh start

then ill take a vid doing some heavier weight, and i can see where im at, and you guys can tell me if it slow enough. I'll prolly do the same for squats.


Thanks again for all your help.
 
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