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Dbol vs Tbol as a kicker
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That's what I keep hearing... I Remeber reading "dbol is the Xanax of steroids" .... I'm honestly just so curious as to what dbol makes u feel like... I already have a decent amount if compounds so not really sure if I'm even gonna add a kicker... But if I do it seems like Tbol is a better option.. More expensive tho, and I dropped an arm and a leg on some legit primo...
Xaxist
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DBOL is awesome stuff if used for a short duration (6-8wks). Most of the bloat will be water if you eat right, and will fall away fairly quickly after you stop. IMHO, I would forget the Anavar and replace it with the DBOL for the first weeks of your cycle. It's generally cheaper and will work much better for your stated goals. Also, Primobolan doesn't seem like a very cost effective or goal effective selection here either. I had amazing results on my first cycle (many years ago) with just Test and DBOL (and ancillaries to manage estrogen). For first cycles, I personally believe simpler is better for many reasons, not the least of which is to see how your body responds to them before experimenting with more elaborate cycles. Good luck!
I didn't like Dbol personally. I got water weight from it and that's about it. Not much in terms of strength or actual muscle gain. I'd go with Tbol
Actually T bol does aromatize, just not as much as D bol. Then again, it isn't as strong. So you can just use a lower does of dbol.
I like both. I'd say T bol is better as an oral along with a cycle, but Dbol is a better kickstart because it gives what you want from a kickstart -- fast gains.
I like both. I'd say T bol is better as an oral along with a cycle, but Dbol is a better kickstart because it gives what you want from a kickstart -- fast gains.
That bloat is blood volume, extra strength, increased mitochondria, stretched fascia -- all the things that contribute to muscle growth. And everybody wants to stop it.
Go figure.
Go figure.
Water retention is often synonymous with bloat. Not that it's always a technically correct term, people don't want excessive water retention, bloat from increased blood volume is a good thing for anabolism.
There's some water retention but that adds to contractile strength. It's the same thing that people love about Anadrol, except that it take 50 mgs of Anadrol as oppossed to 10 mgs from d bol. The body also needs to get used to holding more mass. The whole point of a kickeris to get there quickly as opposed to waiting 2 weeks for the injectables to build up.
Cipp21
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Best acronym ever! I agree with Nelson's points. Muscle is made up of approx. 70% water, so dbol water bloating must be doing something extra special for muscles.
Just an FYI... You don't have to bloat like a fish to get gains. Lots of good orals provide dry gains that are incredible. Extra Water retention also means higher blood pressure and higher sides.
Tbol, anavar, and Winny are all awesome with relatively dry and lean gains
Tbol, anavar, and Winny are all awesome with relatively dry and lean gains
Physiophreak
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im using tbol as a kicker in a test e cycle, I'm starting my third week and my nipples are starting to itch and I'm wondering if this is a start to gyno. nova is on its way just in case. anyone have any experience with this? is the itching a.pre-cursor to gyno?
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With your goals and what your after, I would go with tbol... You are still going to get nice size from it... I have seen guys put on excellent mass with tbol and it will be more keepable... There are good arguments for dbol but I think you will be happier with tbol... It really fits well into your cycle choice as well...
You are going to love primo!
You are going to love primo!
