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Dangerous Cycle?

ItalMonster

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Hey guys,

My bestfriend is really not listening to me, and he relies on me to get him his information on everything. He is planning a cycle that I feel is really dangerous, especially for his liver and him being only 19. Well here goes.

His stats are 6'4", 235lbs, 13%bf

Anadrol-100mg-Everyday-Weeks 1-8
Dbol - 50mg-Everyday-Weeks 1-6
Tren -100mg-EOD -Weeks 1-12
Winny - 50mg-Everyday-Weeks 1-12
Test Et -1000mg-weekly -Weeks 1-12
Sust - 500mg-Weekly -Weeks 1-10
Gh - 4-10iu-Everyday-Weeks 1-12
Slin - 5-15iu-Everyday-Weeks 1-12
T3 -50mcg-Everyday -Weeks 1-12(No pyramid)
Liquidex- 1ml -Everyday -Weeks 1-13
Clomid-2 weeks after last shot.

I have been telling him repeatedly that he will have NO liver after this cycle, but does not give a crap...

He has done 5 cycles, all pretty heavy, but this is by far the heaviest, and longest he's ever done.

For some reason, I know he won't listen to me, but is there any way to make this cycle safer?? LOL

I don't even know if I'd be sick enough to try something like that, and I like to go heavy on everything...

Any suggestions guys?
 
tell him to became a man first. Train hard and when you become 24-25 then he can begin to juice. Juice is not a game, with so much shit he has he'll need a new liver but if he still want it here it goes a "safe cycle"
Test 500 week 8 weeks
Deca 300 week 8 weeks
if he want a little more size put Dbols during the first 4 weeks and winny the 4 weeks remaining
He should take Nolva or Proviron or better Arimidex during the whole cycle
2 weeks after cycle Clomid 100mg for the first week and 50 for the second in order to get his balls working again

BUT TELL HIM TO WAIT FOR JUICING
 
Don't run the A-50 for longer then 5 weeks. 12 weeks on Fina and Winny is a little long I would save then both for the last 8 weeks of his cycle. Make sure he Pyramids the Cytomel(T3) and Tell him to take Cranberry extract for the Kidneys and Also Drink Plenty of water. Try this to help out his liver
This was originaly made by E2 and are liver protectors:

Standardized silymarin 160 mg + 3x/day

Evening primrose oil 1300 mg 2x/day

Alpha lipoic acid 100 to 200 mg 3x/day

Glycyrrhizinate Forte 1 capsule 3x/day

N-acetyl cysteine 600 mg 3x/day

Glutamine powder 2g to 12g 3x/day (1 heaping teaspoon = 4g, 1 hpg tablespoon = 12 grams)

Omega 3 fatty acids 2 to 3 capsules 3x/day

Lung Tan Xie Gan Chinese herb formula - as directed

That is a big cycle. Also tell him to get blood work done before, during and after this cycle to make sure everything is fine. Hope this helps, Good Luck to him

M18
 
I kinda can't, he started when he was 16(Deca, Dbol, and Winny)....

If I remember right, his 5 cycles were the following.

Deca, Dbol, Winny

Winny, EQ, Clen, Sustanon

Sustanon, Deca, Winny, Anavar

Masteron, EQ, Winny, Anavar, Test Prop

Test Cyp(1000mg), Tren(600mg), Winny(400mg), and Dbol(40mg everyday for 8 weeks)....

I swear to god, if he never juiced he would be about 6'8.... His parents are 6'7"(Dad), and 6'3" respectively, and his YOUNGER brother who is 15 is 6'3" already...
 
Thank Mustang, I just printed out that whole list..

We have a good friend that works at GNC so getting all that stuff shouldn't be too hard...
 
what is his purpose to run anadrol and dbol together. maybe a-50 for first 4 weeks, then 2 weeks of dbol, but simultanioulsy(sp?). one thing is for sure, he cant say you did not warn him. you are a good freind for looking out for him.

peace...Arms
 
I think the cycle looks awsome, and if he's done very heave cycles before then let him do this one, its not like this is his first one.
I think he should just cut the Anadrol in week 4.
I would bump up the slin to at least twice a day.
 
That's some cycle!!

Looks like something Chris Cormier would do. Yeah, I'd just shorten the lengths of the Dbol, Winny, and Drol.

How much is this cycle costing? At 19 years old, how is he paying for this? I feel pinched and mine only cost $500-600 bucks. This has gotta be well over 5 grand. Regardless if its all IP stuff.

What's the point in taking 4mg of Arimidex a day?
 
The sust is a waste he should just raise the TE. He will look like a water balloon taking drol that long with dbol cut it, like mustang says, to 4-5 weeks tops. There is a big difference between 4 and 10 iu of GH, which is it? Tren is an every day drug, not EOD but the dose is good. Other than that it looks good.
 
Nice,

I dont know enough about dbol and A50 stacked to make a good call. My personal choice would be to just bump the A50 up to 150mg per day for 4-6 weeks, then 100-150mg dbol for another 4-6. With the WV added it is going to stress his liver, but milk thistle should help considerably.

I agree the Tren should be every day as well.
 
ItalMonster said:
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He has done 5 cycles, all pretty heavy, but this is by far the heaviest, and longest he's ever done.

If he has done that many heavy cycles and still has some pretty shitty stats I would tell him to quit all together.


I'm only 6'0 212 and I have never even taken near that amount of sauce.

If I was 6'4 and taking that much juice I would want to be at "least" 30 pounds heavier.
 
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I empathize with both of you, I tend to over do everythng and go to extermes. He simply has enough gear to do two cycles and would get more bang for his buck by doing just that two cycles, even back to back instead of all at once.

Tell him he will get even bigger if he spreads it out over two cycles instead of one.
 
DUMMER & DUMMER

Crap he would get better gains by breaking that up into 2 cycles......it crazy stuff like this that gives AS a bad rap...folks thinking if some is good than more is better!!!! RADAR
 
OH! another thing i should mention...get your friend a good insurance policy especially covering disability he will need it as he gets older!!!!! RADAR:rolleyes:
 
Gyno-milker, When he first started he was 6'3, 160lbs, gaining NOTHING natural, even with creatine was getting nothing and he was lifting 5x a week...

ManChild, IDK if you know about NJ, but he lives in a town called Ridgefield, bunch of rich f*ckers there.

His father is a gynocologist and treats the kid like gold, if he needs money for ANYTHING, he gets it...

He has decided to cut the Sust out, and add 500mg more of Test Eth, and is cutting the Anadrol for the first 4 weeks, then doing the dbol weeks 4-10....

He is slowly coming around that he won't have a liver after this cycle.....

But I don't know how far he'll listen, I told him to follow my guidelines(Never do test over a gram, no slin, no anadrol), but he doesn't want to listen....

He personally probably thinks that he's god, but I just think he's an idiot now.
 
I can't believe some of you guys commenting on such a dumb cycle for a 19 yr old :mad:

This guy obviously has no livin' brain cells in his head. It won't be just a fucked up liver, it will be much more than that. I don't really give a shit to what he takes or what he does to his health, but the sad thing is with so many assholes around using/finding AS will be a very risky business.
 
The question nobody has asked, is what the hell is he trying to accomplish? Does he just want to add some muscle to look good, is he wanting to compete, or does he just not give a fuck and want to die at a young age to spite his parents who probably didnt love him enough? At 6'4 if he is looking at competing, he has YEARS of packing on muscle ahead of him. It cant be done overnight.

In my opinion, for a 19 year old, that cycle is just plain reckless and WILL do permanent damage to him. He could break that cycle into two or three cycles and do much better and live longer. Girls wont fuck dead guys, ok (well most wont), remind him of that.

As for your comment about him lifting 5 times a week, that isnt always a good thing, depending on what he is doing when he is there. Convince him of these things:

1. Diet and training is the most important factor in gaining muscle, not monster amounts of AS.
2. You grow in your sleep! Work out hard, then rest, rest, rest

He isnt going to be Mr. Olympia overnight, and with those doses this early on, he will likely be hospitalized before he gets to a stage.
 
do what the guys up there said they have experience , you can get two cycles out of this. He is going to gain alot of weight if he does this, but alot of it is going to be water, and he isn't going to like that much. Be prepared to sweat constantly.
 
6-4 235 14% after 5 heavy cycles!
I am 6-4 was around 14% and close to 260 before ever touching sauce. Your friend is trying to cheat the system, he has obviously not learned how to build mass the right way and wants the speedy easy way to size. This cycle will do more harm for him than good.
If he is going to juice at that age he sould at least do it responsibly. At least you seem concerned for his health, but he may have to learn the hard way.
 
I like the way Maxbiceps put it "Holy shit". Sonofabitch man does your friend get pissed off easy? I mean you know tren+all that test+50mg of dbol ed+100mg Adrol=1 pissed mofo. If I did something like this I would have acne so bad you wouldnt be able to see any muscles. But if he thinks he should do such let him go for it. Its just overkill in my opinion.



:goof: The Agent:goof:
 
that is quite a cycle, but why test th and sustanon??? also...dbol for that long will be dangerous (4-5 wks max) and staying on t3 for that long can give some serious thyroid problems.

this guy clearly knows little about the juice he wants to take and should research more before he kills himself.
 
YOUR FRIEND IS OUT OF HIS F'N MIND! 8 weeks of A-50 at 100mg a day plus 6 weeks of D-bol at 50mg a day plus 50mg a day of Winstrol is DISGUSTING! How can somebody be so ridiculous? Pick any one of the above oral dosing scheduales and it will kill your liver...never mind ALL THREE AT ONCE! Your friend is going to die of liver cancer very early in life if you don't stop his ignorant a$$!
 
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