d-bol question

[jvilma51]

wats up fellas.... my boy is going to take a dbol only cycle..... i have never messed around with the stuff myself.... so he was asking how many mgs to take a day and for how long....its his first cycle and he refuses to take injections..... but anyways any advice.....

also its gonna be his first cycle.... and i kno u are gonna tell me a test only is a good way to start out.... but he refuses to listen and i set on doing it.... i just want him to do it right and i am not really familiar with dbol....

i am married to tren and test

 

[chris69]

wats up fellas.... my boy is going to take a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle..... i have never messed around with the stuff myself.... so he was asking how many mgs to take a day and for how long....its his first cycle and he refuses to take injections..... but anyways any advice.....

also its gonna be his first cycle.... and i kno u are gonna tell me a test only is a good way to start out.... but he refuses to listen and i set on doing it.... i just want him to do it right and i am not really familiar with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ....

i am married to trenbolone and test

From what ive heard, I would go 30 to 100 ED. I'm not a expert by any strech.

 

[Cal_21]

From what ive heard, I would go 30 to 100 ED. I'm not a expert by any strech.

I'm no expert either....by any stretch of the imagination lol. But 100mg ED sounds like overkill. Most orbs around these parts reccomend 20-30mg ED.

 

[SLAYER69!]

wats up fellas.... my boy is going to take a Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only cycle..... i have never messed around with the stuff myself.... so he was asking how many mgs to take a day and for how long....its his first cycle and he refuses to take injections..... but anyways any advice.....

also its gonna be his first cycle.... and i kno u are gonna tell me a test only is a good way to start out.... but he refuses to listen and i set on doing it.... i just want him to do it right and i am not really familiar with Dianabol - methandrostenolone - ....

i am married to trenbolone and test

Yep

 

[chris69]

I'm no expert either....by any stretch of the imagination lol. But 100mg ED sounds like overkill. Most orbs around these parts reccomend 20-30mg ED.

I agree Cal, It was a study i was refering to-Ive heard that over 100 it seemed that it didnt work any better than 120/150, it seemes to level at 100,but these guys im talking about were monsters,lol ,so they concluded that over 100 was a waste.

 

[chris69]

I agree Cal, It was a study i was refering to-Ive heard that over 100 it seemed that it didnt work any better than 120/150, it seemes to level at 100,but these guys im talking about were monsters,lol ,so they concluded that over 100 was a waste.

Not to be a joker, but why do alot of people like Test for a start,and is it test E.. or P...

 

[matty420]

my first cycle was d-bol only, after all was said and done, i kept 6 lbs. i took 50 mgs a day for 6 weeks. to get the most out of your gains, make sure you split up the dose evenly every 6 or so hours. the key with dianabol is to keep the level stable in your blood

 

[chris69]

my first cycle was Dianabol - methandrostenolone - only, after all was said and done, i kept 6 lbs. i took 50 mgs a day for 6 weeks. to get the most out of your gains, make sure you split up the dose evenly every 6 or so hours. the key with dianabol is to keep the level stable in your blood

matty what was your gain before you lost and kept 6lbs

 

[Nelson Montana]

I think this is one of the silliest ongoing debates.

If someone wants to use a couple of dball a day to test the waters, I see no problem with that. This whole notion that a FIRST cycle SHOULD be this or that, is dumb. The only thing a first cycle should be is low dosage and short.

 

[DORIANHH]

My first cycle was D-dol only and started off on 30mgs for the first week. Then 50 mg's for the second and 3rd. Then 60mg's for the 4th and 5th. On the 6th i came back down to 30mgs and took 15mg's 7th 10 8th.
I gained 17 LBS and kept 14.
Gained savage strength and kept 3/4. Not bad for a cheap cycle but dont drink alcahol and take milk thistle.
Also Drink an ass load of water.

 

[advanced-stealth]

As always Nelson good advice.

I think this is one of the silliest ongoing debates.

If someone wants to use a couple of dball a day to test the waters, I see no problem with that. This whole notion that a FIRST cycle SHOULD be this or that, is dumb. The only thing a first cycle should be is low dosage and short.

 

[jvilma51]

I think this is one of the silliest ongoing debates.

If someone wants to use a couple of dball a day to test the waters, I see no problem with that. This whole notion that a FIRST cycle SHOULD be this or that, is dumb. The only thing a first cycle should be is low dosage and short.

agreed nelson.... i think its just a matter of peoples opinion.... i dont see nothing wrong with it either.... i was just using my personal experience on running sust and winnie my first cycle and that i think he should start out with that.... thats all.... but agreed it is a silly debate... and to each their own

 

[GUESS]

I think this is one of the silliest ongoing debates.

If someone wants to use a couple of dball a day to test the waters, I see no problem with that. This whole notion that a FIRST cycle SHOULD be this or that, is dumb. The only thing a first cycle should be is low dosage and short.

Agreed! But I'm sure you'll agree that a d-ball only cycle is pointless and the characteristics of the look and gains are not like those of a test cycle. Yer buddy will keep almost none of his gains so all he will get out of that cycle is the "FEEL" of gear at the most in my opinion.

 

[halfcenturian]

I have a better question... HOW OLD is your boy? And has he reached his natty peak? Non of my business, but i'd keep him natty as long as possible.

Every first cycle should be Test E /C only for 8-12 weeks, followed by a complete recovery PCT. IMO

 

[Nelson Montana]

Agreed! But I'm sure you'll agree that a d-ball only cycle is pointless and the characteristics of the look and gains are not like those of a test cycle. Yer buddy will keep almost none of his gains so all he will get out of that cycle is the "FEEL" of gear at the most in my opinion.

The nitrogen retention from dball is no different from the nitrogen retention from test. Muscle is muscle. When people say you can't keep gains from dball I think it's more that you lose that fullness from the increased water and blood volume. You really feel "deflated" once you're off but only because the pump while on is so satisfying. That's one of the reasons I developed VIGOR. That, along with BIG BLAST will retain that "fullness" PC. Sure, some of it is visual and psychological, but that's a part of the whole experience.

This is another reason I think an anabolic is better for a first cycle than test. Test is also misleading is that you'll gain a lot of water weight that will be lost PC. Better to use some varr or Primmo and get milder gains and not think that every cycle has to make the scale go way up.

 

[GUESS]

The nitrogen retention from dball is no different from the nitrogen retention from test. Muscle is muscle. When people say you can't keep gains from dball I think it's more that you lose that fullness from the increased water and blood volume. You really feel "deflated" once you're off but only because the pump while on is so satisfying. That's one of the reasons I developed VIGOR. That, along with BIG BLAST will reatin that "fullness" PC. Sure, some of it is visual and psychological, but that's a part of the whole experience.

This is another reason I think an anabolic is better for a first cycle than test. Test is also misleading is that you'll gain a lot of water weight that will be lost PC. Better to use some varr or Primmo and get milder gains and not think that every cycle has to make the scale go way up.

Good way of putting it!

 

[turbogreek]

I think this is one of the silliest ongoing debates.

If someone wants to use a couple of dball a day to test the waters, I see no problem with that. This whole notion that a FIRST cycle SHOULD be this or that, is dumb. The only thing a first cycle should be is low dosage and short.

i agree 100%.

so to answer your question and keep in mind that you havent really given uas any info about your boy...i would say 30mg/day for 4 to 6 weeks. this will give him a nice feel.

 

[chris69]

i agree 100%.

so to answer your question and keep in mind that you havent really given uas any info about your boy...i would say 30mg/day for 4 to 6 weeks. this will give him a nice feel.

Bump

 

[jvilma51]

well he is about 6 foot i would say maybe a little shorter i am guessing he ways about 185.... i wouldnt say he has reached is natural limit but he keeps a great work out schedule and diets well.... for his age he is 22 years old... and he is a buddy of mine from good ol' hs baseball lol....me i started wen i was 20 flame me all u want for starting young but it was my choice and my decision...and it helped cuz after 2 years of not playing college ball and juicing and lifting i played last summer and got recruited heavily...so lets just say hittin juice = hitting moon shots...he has held off the need for awhile....and he landed some dbols from his buddy..... so this y i am asking for him

 

[BigGuyPHX]

well he is about 6 foot i would say maybe a little shorter i am guessing he ways about 185.... i wouldnt say he has reached is natural limit but he keeps a great work out schedule and diets well.... for his age he is 22 years old... and he is a buddy of mine from good ol' hs baseball lol....me i started wen i was 20 flame me all u want for starting young but it was my choice and my decision...and it helped cuz after 2 years of not playing college ball and juicing and lifting i played last summer and got recruited heavily...so lets just say hittin juice = hitting moon shots...he has held off the need for awhile....and he landed some dbols from his buddy..... so this y i am asking for him

Jesus titty fuckin christ!!! Is anyone reading this shit???
Tell your 22yo 185 pound 6 foot tall buddy to fucking EAT EAT! EAT! EAT!
END OF STORY!
Your not in college and getting recruited heavily??? Give me a fuckin break!
"hittin juice = hitting moon shots" WTF are you 12 years old???
Your buddy "landed some dbols from his buddy" this type of stupid playground drug dealing is why gear is all over the media with busts.
You were 20yo when you started because it was "my choice and my decision" flame you??? Shit bro you just flamed yourself by sounding like a little girl.

Fuck it I'm out of here, you bros want to waste your time with this shit have at it!

BigPHX

 

[jvilma51]

Jesus titty fuckin christ!!! Is anyone reading this shit???
Tell your 22yo 185 pound 6 foot tall buddy to fucking EAT EAT! EAT! EAT!
END OF STORY!
Your not in college and getting recruited heavily??? Give me a fuckin break!
"hittin juice = hitting moon shots" WTF are you 12 years old???
Your buddy "landed some dbols from his buddy" this type of stupid playground drug dealing is why gear is all over the media with busts.
You were 20yo when you started because it was "my choice and my decision" flame you??? Shit bro you just flamed yourself by sounding like a little girl.

Fuck it I'm out of here, you bros want to waste your time with this shit have at it!

BigPHX

whoa ass hole y dont u shut the fuck up.....i was at school for 2 years playing summer club ball and i got recruited i have 3 years of eligibility.... and yes that it exactly wat happend....he is a friend that i played baseball with in hs......u kno people like u are fuckin low life pieces of shit....

 

[jvilma51]

Jesus titty fuckin christ!!! Is anyone reading this shit???
Tell your 22yo 185 pound 6 foot tall buddy to fucking EAT EAT! EAT! EAT!
END OF STORY!
Your not in college and getting recruited heavily??? Give me a fuckin break!
"hittin juice = hitting moon shots" WTF are you 12 years old???
Your buddy "landed some dbols from his buddy" this type of stupid playground drug dealing is why gear is all over the media with busts.
You were 20yo when you started because it was "my choice and my decision" flame you??? Shit bro you just flamed yourself by sounding like a little girl.

Fuck it I'm out of here, you bros want to waste your time with this shit have at it!

BigPHX

also anyonce can talk shit wen behind a comp screen grow some balls....if u look at all my others posts i am legit and i believe have earned a little respect i dont go around talking shit to other people so if u dont have anything to say dont say nothing at all....people like you are the reason y people are afraid to ask questions.....pussy

 

[Cal_21]

Jesus titty fuckin christ!!! Is anyone reading this shit???
Tell your 22yo 185 pound 6 foot tall buddy to fucking EAT EAT! EAT! EAT!
END OF STORY!
Your not in college and getting recruited heavily??? Give me a fuckin break!
"hittin juice = hitting moon shots" WTF are you 12 years old???
Your buddy "landed some dbols from his buddy" this type of stupid playground drug dealing is why gear is all over the media with busts.
You were 20yo when you started because it was "my choice and my decision" flame you??? Shit bro you just flamed yourself by sounding like a little girl.

Fuck it I'm out of here, you bros want to waste your time with this shit have at it!

BigPHX

olo

 

[sw0le25]

From what ive heard, I would go 30 to 100 ED. I'm not a expert by any strech.

are you serious,the kid will freaking o.d on the shit 100mg.......he wont even have a liver anymore at this dosage...

 

[sw0le25]

also anyonce can talk shit wen behind a comp screen grow some balls....if u look at all my others posts i am legit and i believe have earned a little respect i dont go around talking shit to other people so if u dont have anything to say dont say nothing at all....people like you are the reason y people are afraid to ask questions.....pussy

ya i hate people like that. think they float above everyone and know everything......that's a person who has a low self-esteem and no life.....to sum up in a couple of words "a sorry ass dude" lol......well, i think 30mg for 6 weeks straight is good..........just make sure he eats alot and works out for size.....take it easy......

ps. now i know to never listen to or ask advice from that loser big crybaby phx maybe he should lay off the roids......who was disrespectful.....

 

[jvilma51]

ya i hate people like that. think they float above everyone and know everything......that's a person who has a low self-esteem and no life.....to sum up in a couple of words "a sorry ass dude" lol......well, i think 30mg for 6 weeks straight is good..........just make sure he eats alot and works out for size.....take it easy......

ps. now i know to never listen to or ask advice from that loser big crybaby phx maybe he should lay off the steroids......who was disrespectful.....

Thank you....

 

[BigGuyPHX]

Boo hoo WTF did I hit a nerve?
Its cool I wasnt calling names just pointing out you were posting stupid shit and you were... "hittin juice = hitting moon shots" "landed some dbols from his buddy" "I'm 20 my choice and my decision"

There is not one vet on this board that didnt roll his eye after reading your post!

Thats cool you want to insult me great!
You just made yourself look like a bigger dumbfuck.
Take care,
BigPHX

 

[nemesis 2027]

Everybody feeling negative here better take a step backwards, take a deep breath, count to ten, and realize that self control better rule over any of this bullshit. we all have real lives outside of these forums, and whether you're handing out the bs or taking it, get a grip and don't let it get to you. Think twice about being a jerk, and think twice before taking it personally.
BRR and other mods have made it clear they will ban members who act out in such a way on either side of argument.

Jesus guys we have all acted stupid, wondered basic things that many disagree with, but to attack each other doesn't help the integrity of the forum or get out any useful or even comical comments at times.

If you don't have anything constructive to add, the rule of remaining silent would really be the best.

Can't we all at least try and get along??

 

[metalcavy]

Must be that magical "roid rage" that's been hyped up on the news so much lately....

 

[nemesis 2027]

To honestly answer the original posters question, it's probably in the best interest of all concerned that he (your friend) join the forums and speak for himself. That way there's open dialog, he can read up other very informative posts, do some (obviously well needed) reasearch, and make an informed decison when the time is right. Just my .02

 

[nemesis 2027]

Must be that magical "roid rage" that's been hyped up on the news so much lately....

I was going to add that as a bit 'comic relief' but I didn't want to add injury to the insults.. lol

 

[chris69]

I was going to add that as a bit 'comic relief' but I didn't want to add injury to the insults.. lol

Spoken like a Pro ! bump "nemesis"