Cycle Thoughts

[DavyDogg]

Let me know how this looks or any changes needed,
First AAS cycle, have done 3 sarms cycles.
I am 39 5'10 203lbs, Main goal of this cycle is mass, definition and hardness.

week 1-12
Test E 375mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 5-12
N2Gen ES


REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen


PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
MK 2866 25mg/day
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25


Also wanting to add an Oral for the first 6 weeks, based on my plan and goals would you add Tbol or Anavar? Also what are thoughts about Test E at 375mg/week for 12 weeks or 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

 

[dylangemelli]

i like anavar for the kickstart myself... i like the cycle plan man, looks spot on to me and i rarely give that for an answer... nice job doing your research!

 

[Fella Finn]

I like the cycle plan sir! You cannot go wrong with either tbol or anavar here, it really comes down to your goals. Personally, I like anavar more but they are both good options

 

[DavyDogg]

thanks guys, why Anavar over Tbol? I was planning 50mg/day of either one I choose.

 

[the_alcatraz]

Let me know how this looks or any changes needed,
First AAS cycle, have done 3 sarms cycles.
I am 39 5'10 203lbs, Main goal of this cycle is mass, definition and hardness.

week 1-12
Test E 375mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 5-12
N2Gen ES


REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen


PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
MK 2866 25mg/day
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25


Also wanting to add an Oral for the first 6 weeks, based on my plan and goals would you add Tbol or Anavar? Also what are thoughts about Test E at 375mg/week for 12 weeks or 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

I like this cycle a LOT very oldcsool

if you are going to kickstart go with anavar 50mgs/day better than tbolr esults fro sure

I would go with longer cycles always so 375mgs/week of test for 12 weeks better than 10weeks @500mgs

 

[the_alcatraz]

thanks guys, why Anavar over Tbol? I was planning 50mg/day of either one I choose.

anavar 50mgs/day is much better than tbol

 

[stevesmi]

have you ran test before at that dosage and experienced hardness? most people will not

 

[JasonPriest]

usually competitors drop the test ahead of a contest to harden up

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro it sound like you should roll with #2 option

 

[SteveMobsterG]

No one needs a kick start

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Cycle looks impressive, 12 weeks at 375mgs is better choice and ANAVAR is much better than TBOL

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

You cycle looks good and well planned....

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Tbol and anavar are both great options. I would just pick one and then you can try the other one down the road.

 

[DavyDogg]

never ran Test before, main goal is mass

 

[the_alcatraz]

never ran Test before, main goal is mass

if you never ran testosterone, go with testosterone now and you'll gain mass for sure with the rest of the cycle

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Tbol and anavar are both great options. I would just pick one and then you can try the other one down the road.

Exactly so.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Overall looks excellent, consider small change, 400mgs of TEST and 12 weeks cycle

 

[JasonPriest]

make sure you use domestic supply if you want legit steroids!

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Looks good to me..also keep a check on your diet...

 

[DavyDogg]

using Napsgear

 

[ballin2504]

Looks like a well though out cycle

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Make sure you come back to this thread and update us on your progress!

 

[ballin2504]

I would go with anavar for what your goals are but the rest looks good

 

[Tazz]

how’s the cycle

 

[DavyDogg]

still waiting for delivery

 

[the_alcatraz]

still waiting for delivery

You talk to the source and check?

 

[DavyDogg]

Finally after some time off and source/shipping issues I am ready to start my cycle. A few very minor changes.

week 1-12
Test E 400mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 11
N2Gen

REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen

PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25

Ordered from SYN Pharma, will also be taking creatine and of course whey protein.
First pin will be next Monday

 

[the_alcatraz]

Finally after some time off and source/shipping issues I am ready to start my cycle. A few very minor changes.

week 1-12
Test E 400mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 11
N2Gen

REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen

PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25

Ordered from SYN Pharma, will also be taking creatine and of course whey protein.
First pin will be next Monday

I like this cycle simple and easy to follow

lets get this log going
on monday
tell us your workout and your diet

and keep going at least every few days so we can follow up

 

[ceo]

bros good cycle lets see a log of it

 

[ROIDDERS]

test cycle nice
more logging

 

[Quadsweep]

400mgs test perfect cycle
+on the log

 

[Ulter]

i want to see a good log come out of this

 

[e2]

the log is UP

 

[2Thick]

i want to see a log

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

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[SteveMobsterG]

From question to great log.

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

50mgs of ANAVAR daily is a better choice

 

[BodyMonster34]

bro good log

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

your plan looks solid......

 

[DavyDogg]

Did my first pin last night, all went well but leg is sore today. Hoping to see some good results around week 4 or 5.
Should I take Aromasin right through to my pct or stop after test is done? Also with my cycle is taking clomid and nolva over kill for pct, is one enough after running only one compound?

 

[the_alcatraz]

Did my first pin last night, all went well but leg is sore today. Hoping to see some good results around week 4 or 5.
Should I take Aromasin right through to my pct or stop after test is done? Also with my cycle is taking clomid and nolva over kill for pct, is one enough after running only one compound?

Aromasin I would go with the whole cycle for aromasin and 1st week of pct, due to testosterone half life

pct nolvadex clomid n2generate combo of 3 is nOT overkill

are you going to post a log? with training and diet more detailed

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

You want to run an AI as long as you are running aromatizing compounds.

 

[ceo]

bros i would go into pct with aromasin

 

[ROIDDERS]

are you keeping a log for us? I dont see a full log

on the aromasin run it 2 weeks post last shot

 

[Quadsweep]

aromasin is usually 14 days into pct
you doing a full log?

 

[Ulter]

aromasin keep doing it in pct

 

[e2]

i use aromasin 3 weeks into pct post test
more log stuff please

 

[2Thick]

aromasin all the way into week 3 of pct imo

 

[Monstro]

more log info needed
and aromasin week 2 of pct

 

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[SteveMobsterG]

Let me know how this looks or any changes needed,
First AAS cycle, have done 3 sarms cycles.
I am 39 5'10 203lbs, Main goal of this cycle is mass, definition and hardness.

week 1-12
Test E 375mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 5-12
N2Gen ES


REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen


PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
MK 2866 25mg/day
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25


Also wanting to add an Oral for the first 6 weeks, based on my plan and goals would you add Tbol or Anavar? Also what are thoughts about Test E at 375mg/week for 12 weeks or 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

How's the bodyfat?

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Your cycle is legit, perhaps you should open with ANAVAR-50mgd daily

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Anavar will be a good choice....make sure you use real anavar......

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Looks like a great first AAS cycle layout to me.

 

[DavyDogg]

Just did my 4th pin today, everything feels good with no pain and oil seems smooth. So far I noticed I am up 15lbs on my dumbbell shoulder press and 25lbs on tricep push down. I dont really feel or look any different yet besides strength increase, looking forward to weeks 5 and 6

 

[the_alcatraz]

Just did my 4th pin today, everything feels good with no pain and oil seems smooth. So far I noticed I am up 15lbs on my dumbbell shoulder press and 25lbs on tricep push down. I dont really feel or look any different yet besides strength increase, looking forward to weeks 5 and 6

Good update 4th pin is a start.

Can you post your training diet?
so we can get a whole picture on the log

 

[DavyDogg]

About to start my 4th week, tomorrow will be my 7th pin. So far my strength is up on every exercise, I feel good better focus and confidence. No changes in the mirror yet.
Still taking Aromasin 2x per week

 

[stevesmi]

Just did my 4th pin today, everything feels good with no pain and oil seems smooth. So far I noticed I am up 15lbs on my dumbbell shoulder press and 25lbs on tricep push down. I dont really feel or look any different yet besides strength increase, looking forward to weeks 5 and 6

some cycles are like that. you may just get strength and not much mirror action

 

[JasonPriest]

About to start my 4th week, tomorrow will be my 7th pin. So far my strength is up on every exercise, I feel good better focus and confidence. No changes in the mirror yet.
Still taking Aromasin 2x per week

give it some time to fully kick in

 

[the_alcatraz]

About to start my 4th week, tomorrow will be my 7th pin. So far my strength is up on every exercise, I feel good better focus and confidence. No changes in the mirror yet.
Still taking Aromasin 2x per week

Good you pushing to pin 7.

Can you post more training for us? what you actually doing

more diet info what you're doing too please

 

[ceo]

bros good log update give us more training/diet

 

[ROIDDERS]

more updates please with diet and training details

 

[Quadsweep]

7th is the middle you're going good
i want to see more detail on the log

 

[Ulter]

good update, more updates for us asap please

 

[e2]

monster push on this cycle
updates + for us

 

[2Thick]

nice log update more more more

 

[Monstro]

nice log following A+

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

Approved log

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Let me know how this looks or any changes needed,
First AAS cycle, have done 3 sarms cycles.
I am 39 5'10 203lbs, Main goal of this cycle is mass, definition and hardness.

week 1-12
Test E 375mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 5-12
N2Gen ES


REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen


PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
MK 2866 25mg/day
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25


Also wanting to add an Oral for the first 6 weeks, based on my plan and goals would you add Tbol or Anavar? Also what are thoughts about Test E at 375mg/week for 12 weeks or 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

Not a fan of waiting until there are issues

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Solid cycle, consider 50mgs of ANAVAR daily, instead of TBOL, plus add N2Guard for organ support, very important to your health

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Your plan looks good dude.....make sure you eat clean with this stack......

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

Good update man. Strength is what I notice first on any cycle.

 

[DavyDogg]

Close grip bench press weight stayed the same, reps up by 6
dumbbell shoulder press weight up 15lbs
seated curl weight up 10lbs reps up 6
delt lift up 15 lbs reps stayed the same
tricep push down up 20lbs reps up 4
reverse chin ups reps up 3
dips reps up 6
lat pulldowns up 30lbs same reps
chest press reps up 3
dumbbell row up 10lbs reps up 3
shrugs weight up 20lbs reps same

Average day:
Protein cereal
oatmeal
protein shake

salmon
greek yougurt
protein bar
banana

blueberries
watermelon
carrots / apple

jerky
protein shake
peanuts

chicken breast
beans
cottage cheese
sweet potato

creatine + water

 

[Mike_wh00]

Good update. Fill us in more. Diet training ??

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[the_alcatraz]

Close grip bench press weight stayed the same, reps up by 6
dumbbell shoulder press weight up 15lbs
seated curl weight up 10lbs reps up 6
delt lift up 15 lbs reps stayed the same
tricep push down up 20lbs reps up 4
reverse chin ups reps up 3
dips reps up 6
lat pulldowns up 30lbs same reps
chest press reps up 3
dumbbell row up 10lbs reps up 3
shrugs weight up 20lbs reps same

Average day:
Protein cereal
oatmeal
protein shake

salmon
greek yougurt
protein bar
banana

blueberries
watermelon
carrots / apple

jerky
protein shake
peanuts

chicken breast
beans
cottage cheese
sweet potato

creatine + water

how much protein you doing? i like this update but need to see how much protein in more detail
i see about 150 grams here

 

[ceo]

bros good food update keep going

 

[ROIDDERS]

food seems good but high carbs

 

[Quadsweep]

you cutting now? might be high carbs for that and low fat

 

[Ulter]

meal plan isnt bad
you need to add more cardio imo

 

[e2]

more details on protein amount please

 

[2Thick]

high carbs and low fats
gotta up the fast

 

[Monstro]

thanks for the update on meals and training

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

Approved log

 

[SteveMobsterG]

thanks for the update on meals and training

Yep keep it coming

 

[Vadim Fedorov]

Your plan is solid, lets see your log, as you go

 

[Tiger Salman Khan]

Your plan looks complete....focus on diet and hardcore training.....

 

[DavyDogg]

any tips to improve my diet to more low carb

 

[stevesmi]

any tips to improve my diet to more low carb

carbs are not your enemy
bad carbs are your enemy

there is a difference between white and brown rice
there is a difference between cake and a sweet potato
there is a difference between a candy bar and fruit

 

[the_alcatraz]

any tips to improve my diet to more low carb

low carbs you aim for high protein high fats

if you do eat carbs limit to very low GI carbs and under 50 grams per day
so oatmeal, brown rice etc

 

[JasonPriest]

eliminate bad foods from your diet. doesn't matter if its protein, carbs or fat

 

[ceo]

bros use more high gi carbs like oatmeal

 

[ROIDDERS]

add walnuts/nuts etc
cut all sugary carbs and add low GI carbs brown rice oatmeal etc

 

[Quadsweep]

eat more oatmeal and more healthy fats

 

[Ulter]

cut all carbs
and only keep oatmeal and brown rice under 50 grams
add fish oil, add more nuts seeds

 

[e2]

get more fats dont worry about carbs just make sure they good carbs

 

[2Thick]

fish oil, walnuts, almonds and only very low gi carbs with fiber

 

[Monstro]

i would eat under 100 grams carbs

 

[StevenDarwinMD]

Approved log

 

[Tazz]

carbs are not your enemy
bad carbs are your enemy

there is a difference between white and brown rice
there is a difference between cake and a sweet potato
there is a difference between a candy bar and fruit

This ^

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Let me know how this looks or any changes needed,
First AAS cycle, have done 3 sarms cycles.
I am 39 5'10 203lbs, Main goal of this cycle is mass, definition and hardness.

week 1-12
Test E 375mg /week
GW 20mg/day
N2Guard 5 caps/day
Aromasin 12.5mg 2x/week If Needed

week 5-12
N2Gen ES


REST week 13-14.. N2Guard, GW, N2Gen


PCT week 15-18
N2Guard 7 caps/day
N2Gen
MK 2866 25mg/day
GW 20mg/day
Clomid 50/25/25/25
Nolva 50/25/25/25


Also wanting to add an Oral for the first 6 weeks, based on my plan and goals would you add Tbol or Anavar? Also what are thoughts about Test E at 375mg/week for 12 weeks or 500mg/week for 10 weeks.

Mass is kinda different from the other two