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Cycle Log- Tren/Primo/GW

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Ok finalized my new cycle. 2nd time using tren, but first time using tren E (first time was ace for just 5 weeks). Really counting on the GW to lower tren sides, i cant go 12 weeks on tren if its like the last time and had to bail at 5 weeks on ace. Threw in the primo since its mild and should add nice quality gains.

Goal is 7-10 totally dry lbs after all the dust settles after the cycle. I think thats very reasonable.
39
5'10"
205
15%

Week----Tren E-----------Primo----------Lipid Stabil-----Caber------------GW----Fish oil--------Taurine
1-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
2-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
3-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
4-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
5-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
6-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
7-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
8-------300mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
9-------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
10------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
11------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED
12------400mg/wk--------600mg/wk--------3caps/ED-------.5mg/E3D--------20mg/ED 4000mg/ED 10g/ED

I raise the dose of tren at week 9 to 400mg to combat myostatin even though ive been on HRT and myostatin should not be an issue but you never know, so its just in case.
All gear is ROBOLICS LABS
 
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GW is keeping my sides down on tren e now so hopefully you'll find the same relief
 
I like Tren E over Ace ,looks nice .

Brad.
 
Also, Tren is 5x stronger than Test. But, it is not Test. There is a reason people don't use Tren, Deca, EQ, ect.. for HRT
 
ok will look into that thanks

no big deal i will just run 125mg test like usual
 
Dr Dre said:
Also, Tren is 5x stronger than Test. But, it is not Test. There is a reason people don't use Tren, Deca, EQ, ect.. for HRT
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Everyone I know personally and on the boards that has use tren without test absolutely loved it. It keeps sides at bay. Although it may not be for everyone, test isn't always necessary.
 
Dr Dre said:
Also, Tren is 5x stronger than Test. But, it is not Test. There is a reason people don't use Tren, Deca, EQ, ect.. for HRT
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actually CEO posted a good writeup on low dose tren being used for HRT, EQ isn't used for HRT because its a vet drug, and deca is an anti-fertility drug... and no disrespect but I read your post on evo and its just re-gurgitated bro science you read on some forum and re-posted.. I was thinking you posted some rock hard proof to back up your claims or atleast your own experience but it was just "after a few weeks on tren you will experience problems"

it can be done for sure. as long as your cycle has androgens included there is no reason why you cannot stack anything with a low dose tren and get all the androgens you need

stacking primo/var by themselves there isn't enough androgens so you should definitely add either some test or tren in there to give it a kick for example.. deca is used as an anti-fertility drug in contraceptives so that's a whole nother discussion, just because tren and deca are both progestin based AAS doesn't mean they are the same thing at all!! of course the medical community would never consider an anti-fertility drug be used for HRT, that is just common sense .

bottom line is androgens provide the libido and aggression in men, and tren is 5X more androgenic than test. I find myself more likely on tren to fuck uglier chicks than usual, and not just the skanks either.. well.. some of them are.. that's actually one of the reasons I started shying away from tren. I got sick of thinking and wanting sex all the time on it!
 
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I'm seriously interested in how it does bumping the tren at the 9 week mark to combat myostatin. If it works for you, I will basically be mirroring that for my summer cycle except I may bump it a little earlier around the 7 week mark
 
stevesmi said:
actually CEO posted a good writeup on low dose tren being used for HRT, EQ isn't used for HRT because its a vet drug, and deca is an anti-fertility drug... and no disrespect but I read your post on evo and its just re-gurgitated bro science you read on some forum and re-posted.. I was thinking you posted some rock hard proof to back up your claims or atleast your own experience but it was just "after a few weeks on tren you will experience problems"

it can be done for sure. as long as your cycle has androgens included there is no reason why you cannot stack anything with a low dose tren and get all the androgens you need

stacking primo/var by themselves there isn't enough androgens so you should definitely add either some test or tren in there to give it a kick for example.. deca is used as an anti-fertility drug in contraceptives so that's a whole nother discussion, just because tren and deca are both progestin based AAS doesn't mean they are the same thing at all!! of course the medical community would never consider an anti-fertility drug be used for HRT, that is just common sense .

bottom line is androgens provide the libido and aggression in men, and tren is 5X more androgenic than test. I find myself more likely on tren to fuck uglier chicks than usual, and not just the skanks either.. well.. some of them are.. that's actually one of the reasons I started shying away from tren. I got sick of thinking and wanting sex all the time on it!
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Now, you can't tell me that I am just posting bro-science and rattling off what others have posted.. then in the same, post do it yourself.

Quick question? Have ever heard of someone just running tren for hrt? The answer is no.
 
Dr Dre said:
Now, you can't tell me that I am just posting bro-science and rattling off what others have posted.. then in the same, post do it yourself.

Quick question? Have ever heard of someone just running tren for hrt? The answer is no.
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the OP isn't running tren for HRT.. he is running it for a cycle.

but yes you could run a low dose tren for HRT, I know of people who do it. I'm talking a low dose like 80-100 per week and that's all. if you go too high over a long period of time you would cripple your lipid health. now if you are talking about docs prescribing it considering it is a banned compound then its going to be a tiny bit difficult to get it prescribed by a legit doctor don't you think? keep in mind primo has immune system benefits but is also banned, otherwise it would be used by AIDS patients plus it has the added benefits of putting on some muscle mass which would be awesome for them.. but its banned, doesn't mean its dangerous to use

my point was you saying you have to run test with tren is nonsense for libido reasons. if you suffer from libido problems on tren its because you failed to run caber with it as it is caused by high prolactin. there is absolutely nothing else with running tren alone that would affect libido, if anything the tremendous androgens from tren would accelerate libido
 
stevesmi said:
the OP isn't running tren for HRT.. he is running it for a cycle.

but yes you could run a low dose tren for HRT, I know of people who do it. I'm talking a low dose like 80-100 per week and that's all. if you go too high over a long period of time you would cripple your lipid health. now if you are talking about docs prescribing it considering it is a banned compound then its going to be a tiny bit difficult to get it prescribed by a legit doctor don't you think?

my point was you saying you have to run test with tren is nonsense for libido reasons. if you suffer from libido problems on tren its because you failed to run caber with it as it is caused by high prolactin. there is absolutely nothing else with running tren alone that would affect libido, if anything the tremendous androgens from tren would accelerate libido
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Yes, I know you can run tren without test.

There is a little more to libido than just "controling prolactin"

But to each there own. I don't want to argue about it. I am sure it will go no where. I'm going to hit the gym. Have a good one, and best of luck to the OP.
 
Dr Dre said:
There is a little more to libido than just "controling prolactin"

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correct that's why I have published articles about libido. stress, failure, lack of sleep, bad lipid health etc etc can all wreck libido on a man.. maybe guys who run tren have those symptoms which leads them suffer from low libido on the stuff I don't know.. BUT I haven't heard of many guys that have complaints on tren with libido, for me it makes me into a different person sexually which is actually counter productive for me cause all I want to do is fuck 24/7

dropping prolactin will make a man want sex more often, so when he drops a load he will want sex again sooner than usual .. but it doesn't mean a guy who is dead inside is going to turn into Ron Jeremy using the stuff lol.. just for the record in case anyone reads this and mis understands what I am saying
 
Went up one rep on every set for chest and delts today, pretty good for just 5 days in. Probably not because of the gear, too soon i think. But who knows.
 
Day 6

Improved recovery, much less soreness from last night workout even though i increased all sets by one rep for whole workout. Barely sore this morning.
 
stevesmi said:
correct that's why I have published articles about libido. stress, failure, lack of sleep, bad lipid health etc etc can all wreck libido on a man.. maybe guys who run tren have those symptoms which leads them suffer from low libido on the stuff I don't know.. BUT I haven't heard of many guys that have complaints on tren with libido, for me it makes me into a different person sexually which is actually counter productive for me cause all I want to do is fuck 24/7

dropping prolactin will make a man want sex more often, so when he drops a load he will want sex again sooner than usual .. but it doesn't mean a guy who is dead inside is going to turn into Ron Jeremy using the stuff lol.. just for the record in case anyone reads this and mis understands what I am saying
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Actually running tren with extremely low test was the most aggressive sex I've ever had. I know i was running other stuff and prami instead of caber but it was ridiculous. 30-45 min before the gym then 2 hours after. I can go and i've had some good nights but never with the raw aggressive stamina as that. My gf at the time couldn't walk for a while and couldn't have sex for a week.
 
will be following dave! very eager to see how the gw helps with the tren endurance problems .
 
Day 12
up 5 lbs
strength steadily going up
Had some lethargy this morning but cleared up once in the gym
Starting to get that tren feeling, little insomnia, little bit night sweat etc
 
hurricane said:
will be following dave! very eager to see how the gw helps with the tren endurance problems .
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Does it matter how i take the gw?

I just take 20mg either when i get up or before bed

dont want to have to split it up into two if it doesnt really matter though rob
 
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Does it matter how i take the gw?

I just take 20mg either when i get up or before bed

dont want to have to split it up into two if it doesnt really matter though rob
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take all 20mg 45 mins before training ..especially if you are looking to fight the tren sides in the endurance area via workouts and cardio.
 
ok two weeks now

Strong as shit but been a zombie for a few days and think i need to lower tren to 200mg week. Feel like a pussy but i am not going to go through last time with ace. i gotta be able to think throughout the day and sleep at night, etc. I dont care if the gains are less or slower.
 
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ok two weeks now

Strong as shit but been a zombie for a few days and think i need to lower tren to 200mg week. Feel like a pussy but i am not going to go through last time with ace. i gotta be able to think throughout the day and sleep at night, etc. I dont care if the gains are less or slower.
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That's crazy that you feel that way already at just two weeks in on Tren E. You haven't even hit peak concentration yet. Looks like Tren hits you pretty hard
 
Yea think its just one if those things that i happen to be real sensitive too.
I will see how 200mg goes for a while then up it to 250, 300 if feel pretty good about it.

Trens just strong as hell bro, thats all there is to it
 
Sounds like robolics is some good shit!!!

I was gonna hold off a few more weeks and keep leaning out without the sauce so I could be primed for the tren but this log makes me want to start next week.

I'm gonna go test/tren at 375/200 for 10 weeks. Both robolics
 
zwhit said:
Sounds like robolics is some good shit!!!

I was gonna hold off a few more weeks and keep leaning out without the sauce so I could be primed for the tren but this log makes me want to start next week.

I'm gonna go test/tren at 375/200 for 10 weeks. Both robolics
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Dont think. Just dew it.
 
I like to run my tren low, it really de-regulates the sides that way. guys who run E at 400mg a week are crazy.. the only way I would do that is if I had a vacation for the entire cycle where I could just eat, workout, and fuck.

also I told you robolics tren was the shit, glad to see you took my advice and got it.
 
stevesmi said:
I like to run my tren low, it really de-regulates the sides that way. guys who run E at 400mg a week are crazy.. the only way I would do that is if I had a vacation for the entire cycle where I could just eat, workout, and fuck.

also I told you robolics tren was the shit, glad to see you took my advice and got it.
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What would you run E at?
 
Day 17 and up 10 lbs to 215, great strength but lethargy is hitting again and got tren cough. Im thinking i gotta wait a week or so for the lower dose of 200mg to lessen the effect, (hopefully)
I really wish i just started the whole thing at 200mg lol
oh well its all a learning process
 
Kill it SD! Btw does the tren cough come when you pin? Or just randomly throughout the day?

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Random cough dont think its tren related
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Probably just faggot related being you're a raging queer. :)


Lol I'm following your log just so you know bro. Good to see you saucing and putting on good size.

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Random cough dont think its tren related
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never got tren cough from robolics tren ever, but its possible of course.. but I think you are just catching a cold/flu

I wrote an article on tren and sited a study that showed tren lowers the immune system.. I know with me I always seem to catch something on tren.

if you want to boost the immune system primo is the way to go. considering you are already stacking it in that just proves how powerful tren is .. pretty crazy stuff
 
30 days
up 12 lbs and holding
Veins coming in some
looking harder
T3 still working nicely combating the lethargy
Lower back pumps getting nasty though, but i work around that on back and leg days. Dont know if i will ever solve the lower back pump problem, it just might be one of those things that im prone to have.
I would agree tren lowers the immune system, seems i have either runny nose, or cough, or sore throat, or headaches or combinations of all this last month
 
Great to see that T3 from www.ag-guys.com kicking in and helping you with your tren lethargy. I'm especially pumped to see you finish this one out brother.
 
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30 days
up 12 lbs and holding
Veins coming in some
looking harder
T3 still working nicely combating the lethargy
Lower back pumps getting nasty though, but i work around that on back and leg days. Dont know if i will ever solve the lower back pump problem, it just might be one of those things that im prone to have.
I would agree tren lowers the immune system, seems i have either runny nose, or cough, or sore throat, or headaches or combinations of all this last month
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Robolics tren is kicking your ass!i hear from many its very effective,might jump on soon.
 
Almost 7 weeks, sorry havent checked in lately.
Hit the scale at 220.6 today. Never been 220 damn feels good. People starting to notice and i scared the shit out of the nieghborhood lawn guy when he just mowed my lawn without even asking or letting me know. I felt like he was trying to work me over for cash when he came over to tell me but actually he said "I thought i owed you a mow since you gave me some money that one time and i didnt want to piss off some guy that looks like he can break me in half"
LOL good times

Ok anyway you guys will cry blasphemy but i took the whole week off last week. Just felt like i needed it and since this is the longest cycle i have ever tried i figured the mid point is as good a time as any. i didnt even cared what i ate i just made sure to eat enough calories. Came back today in the gym and didnt miss a beat, strength was up since last time. Since its tren enat i think its really starting to kick in around now. Lethargy is not as bad hopefully since my body is getting used to the tren maybe. Im looking at myostatin issues in a week so gonna have to crank up the dose i think. I wanted to add another compound but i just dont think theres anything that strong enough without aromatization issues.
Cardio is still for shit as well as lower back pumps, forearm pumps when doing back, lower leg pumps in cardio. but thats the price of tren im afraid. I can deal with all that except daily lethargy and lack of sleep. Ive got that in check so its pretty good now.
Gotta get a BF check, if i had to guess ive remained the same or maybe 1% less. Diet hasnt been the best like i said but the tren just shreds whatever is put in the body i can get away with it some.
 
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