Cycle help! (Caber?)

[Figo7]

Hi guys.....
Here is my info:
I am 5'3'' and 155 lbs. I ama competitive bodybuilder and have JUST started anabolics.....
I am currently on the following cycle (see below), and have noticed that my libido is slightly below normal and SHOULD be high right now. I was wondering what you guys may recommend

weeks 1-12 - test cypionate @ 750mg per week
weeks 1-4 - dbol @ 40mg/day
weeks 5-16 - proviron @ .50mg/day
finisteride @ 1mg/day (I've been on it for over a year)
PCT will be Nolva AND clomid with proviron running through it

So I have noticed my libido is not as high as it normally is! I did some research and found out some nasty things about finisteride (propecia) so I decided to go off of it, and if I'm going to be doing future cycles (which I will), it doesn't make sense to take it anyways.......So maybe it's that. I've been off of it for 3 days now.....

I was wondering, would Caber help me out?......If so, do I dose it during cycle AND PCT or just PCT?...or when I want?.....Also, what dose should I use per week?.......


Thanks in advance guys!....

Thanks so much in advance!.....

 

[stevesmi]

need your age.. 2nd we don't give out sources, please edit your post and I will answer you

 

[Figo7]

Stevesmi,

Thank you for your reply. I apologize. I am new to being a member of a forum community. I will also be upgrading my membership because these forums offer so much good info.

I edited my last post and I want to also add what you asked and another piece of info:

1. I am 27 years old

2. My testicles have shrunk quite a bit. I know I'm on testosterone and that is normal, but some guys say they don't shrink too too much. I have. I don't know if this is relevant to my situation in the previous post or not.

3. I am in the middle of week 7 right now by the way....

I await a response and I appreciate your help....

 

[stevesmi]

I would go on hcg immediately. just 250iu's 2X per week is all you need. that will plump your nuts up again. its completely normal for your balls to shrink around week 5 of a cycle, i believe in keeping your nuts so I would advise running hcg.

why are you on propecia that long?

if you suspect a problem with your prolactin then run a blood test. tren or deca are the culprits, but you aren't running them so not sure caber is your answer here.

also where was your AI while you were on dbol? next time run a low dose AI (adex for example) to reduce estro bloat. ur estrogens level are probably sky high. at your size running 30mg dbol a day you probably got bloated like a dead fish.. am i right?

 

[Figo7]

Haha,
Yes I was bloated quite a bit! Haha. My AI was on hand but I could live with the bloat....
Should I start taking arimadex 0.5 EOD now on week 7? If so, will it bring estrogen too low with my 0.5 per day of proviron that I'm taking? I know libido can suffer that way too....

Also, by the time hcg comes in, it'll be mid next week. Is it okay to run it starting then until 1 week before PCT?

Finally, I was on finisteride to stop my hair loss. That's why I was on it so long...I wish I would have read the side effects in more detail other than the company's website! Damn pharma companies!


Even while on dbol, libido wasn't that high!
Strength and gains are here and I have oily skin so I know the test is working, but libido is actually below normal!!

Thanks again in advance and I await your response....

 

[stevesmi]

running an AI now is up to you. just whatever you do run a very low dose. if you are really concerned then run a blood test and see where your prolactin, estrogen, test levels, etc etc are at.

yes start the hcg asap into PCT. up the dosages, then you can start your SERM therapy. things will balance out.

your libido is low for many reasons, I cannot help you there man. it could be so many differenct factors. i dunno what the sides are with propecia but it cant be good you ran it for a year straight.

 

[Figo7]

Thanks so much! I seriously appreciate it.........

So is 0.5 arimadex EOD low enough with proviron or should I do arimadex E3D since I'm taking proviron every day??

Hcg I'll start next week as soon as it comes in for sure for 6-8 weeks depending if I decide on a 10 week cycle or 12 weeks....

As for propecia, yeah guys go on that for life if they want to keep hair. My doctor has been on it for 8 years! Haha
1 year isn't that long when talking propecia. It takes 4-6 months to see reaults in thefirst place but it suppresses DHT....


Finally, if hcg doesn't help libido and I try caber. How long do I run it? Do I do it during pct? And what dose?
My pct will be nolva and clomid together....


Thanks again and sorry for all the questions.....

 

[stevesmi]

do not run caber or adex unless you get a blood test confirming you have issues with prolactin and/or estrogen or you will create even more issues.

i dont see that as your issue anyway.

propecia is fine, but not when you are running AAS with it. kinda counter productive dont you think running something that keeps your hair with something like AAS that speeds up hair loss? make a decision if you want your hair or you want more muscle .. same goes with libido.. AAS can make you horny or kill your sex drive, on cycle or PCT. you might just be sensitive to hormone changes

others will disagree with me and that is fine. but my view is I won't run AAS while taking other drugs too for other issues. get your issues dealt with first, then jump on AAS... in the end you will end up like this.. not sure what is causing your problem cause you are taking too much stuff at once

 

[Figo7]

Thanks,

Well propecia is done. I went off that a few days ago and will never be on it...

As for stuff. I'm doing not enough from what I'm reading on these forums!
759mg/wk of test
Dbols are done with
And proviron daily.

That's it...

I just didnt and don't understand why libido sucks!
So I thought caber (since it's the sex drug) and/or hcg (since many guys claim libido returns with it when shut down or not shut down even)

I guess I'll have to make a doctor Appt for blood work.....
Aside from the libido, great results!!!

So no adex and just hcg asap and my normal plan for pct. Unless tests show something that I should fix....is this correct?

 

[Figo7]

Thanks,

Well propecia is done. I went off that a few days ago and will never be on it...

As for stuff. I'm doing not enough from what I'm reading on these forums!
759mg/wk of test
Dbols are done with
And proviron daily.

That's it...

I just didnt and don't understand why libido sucks!
So I thought caber (since it's the sex drug) and/or hcg (since many guys claim libido returns with it when shut down or not shut down even)

I guess I'll have to make a doctor Appt for blood work.....
Aside from the libido, great results!!!

So no adex and just hcg asap and my normal plan for pct. Unless tests show something that I should fix....is this correct?