Cycle Advice...

[Neologic2k]

Ok, swapped out the Letro for Arimidex at .5mg E3D as my test is on the low side and not prone to Gyno so every 3rd day should be fine. Also lowered the tren to 160mg PW. What are your thoughts to adding clomid 50/25 for weeks 13/14?

Week 1-10 testE 250mg PW (2x .5ml\125mg)Tue-Fri

Week 1-6 TestP 100mg PW (2x .5ml\50mg) Mon-Thur

Week 1-10 Tren A 160mg PW (1x .8ml\140mg) Wed

Week 6-10 HCG 1000iu PW (2x 500ui)

Week 1-10 Arimidex 0.5 E3D

Week 5 & 6 Clen ED 40/40/40/60/60/80/80/60/60/40/40 then two weeks break and the same for Week 9 &10

Week 1-10 Taurine 3000mg ED

Week 1-10 Potassium 1000mg ED

Week 11-12 break

Week 13 Nolva 40 ED

Week 13 Clom 50mg ED

Week 14 Clom 25 ED

Week 14-16 Nolva 20 ED

Cheers

 

[techstep]

1 gram of potassium every day? I don't know about that except too much potassium can kill you (heart attack etc). I would not supplement with potassium outside of real food but I don't know what you're thinking.


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[Neologic2k]

Eeeeek....

Typo on my part! Should read 100mg daily.

 

[Neologic2k]

Clen lowers the Pot levels, although I am eating clean just wanted to have some to hand during the two week clen cycle. It will be my first time running clen

 

[The Disciple]

As anabolic said tren has a lot of sides, my worst was the night sweats. I have decided never ever to have tren during summers, cos summers are really hot here.
Clen is also the same but results are amazing. Would you use an ECA stack too with clen?

Cycle looks great just keep posted.
Good luck.

 

[Neologic2k]

I've run tren before at higher a dose, great results; but yeah, sweats!

The ECA, I'm not sure there is an advantage to stacking these; do you not cycle them instead, alternating 2 weeks on each one. I was under the impression they both working on the same pathways, except clen is more specific, and eca more general, but there is no synergy achieved by stacking- they use the same receptors?

Think I'll go with the cycle as it is :/))

Thanks guys!!! Will post some before and afters, as just waiting for a few bits to arrive still.

 

[toze_cabalero]

Hi guys, im noob here.
Start training at 13yo 2 days a week i was a fat boy lol ... stop training from 18 to 22 then back to gym 2 years then my 1 cycle now passed 6 months from my last day of pct from the 1 cycle.
BF was not measure with super machines is not acurate i dont think im to much but ok!
I saw this was for cycles advices.... Well im 25yo 87kg 18%bf 1.83m did 1 cycle before that was:
1-4 500mg test cyp
5-14 800mg test cyp
9,10,11 dbol 30mg day
12,13,14 winny 40mg day
Run anastrozol starting on week 7 ... 8 i think i was a bit bloated but no alarming gyno symptons.
PCT was simple nolva and clomid protocol for 4 week.
i jumped from 77 to 89 then losed about 2 ... 87kg now.
I trained hard but not toooo heavy because of my shoulder had a motocross acident 3 years ago.

So im here because im thinking on my 2 cycle...

1-12 test E 600mg week
1-10 deca 300mg week
1-4 dbol 30 mg day
10,11,12,13 winny 40 to 50 mg a day
PCT protocol the same
Anastrozol this time from day one .5mg day yes day no or .5 EOD sides will tell the suit spot

But i was thinking anadrol and dbol together on kick start like 50mg day anadrol and 30 dbol day OR just anadrol 50mg day ....
What do you think of the ratio deca test .. i probably on mid cycle up the test a bit but for sure first time on deca and deca dick i dont want.

My Goals from this 2 cycle are droping to 14% Bf and step up the scale to 90+ ... am i aiming to high ?!


Hug from portugal waiting for thoughts from you guys!
good lifts

 

[Saiyan7]

You should definitely drop to 14% before even starting the next cycle. AAS at higher bf% is dangerous.

That being said, you can run adrol and dbol together but at much lower doses of each. You can't run both at full strength. Cut them in half and that would be ok.

I would adex eod to start and adjust as needed.
I would also drop the test to 300-500. Some people say test higher than deca while others say deca higher than test. I would run them both at 300 and split it into two injections a week.

I also would NOT run an oral kickstart and an oral finisher. Pick on or the other. That's way too toxic to be done safely.

Hopefully some others will step in and agree with those points as well.
Definitely cut some bf before starting.

 

[Neologic2k]

Personally for a 2nd cycle it seems a little complex...

I would drop the test to under 500mg PW and maybe replace the debol with test P if it's a short ester your after to kick start.

Split your 500mg a week between the test P and test E.

Your AI looks ok but consider your age, your own test production will be quite high already so maybe 0.5 EOD and see how you go...

Then run a good PcT

Just my thoughts bro

 

[bigorse]

honestly i think a simple cycle like this would be much better for your goals

1-10 test p 100mg eod
1-10 tren a 100mg eod
prami and adex as needed and clen through out if you want the fat burner. even a low dose of t3 would be good as tren lowers t3