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cruise dosage and do you guys take anything else on a cruise?

junior34

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Ok so i have 8 weeks to of my blast, (250mg test e and 400mg of tren a)
Ive done a cruise before at 250mg a week of test e, just curious if anyone runs anything else like masteron or does this defeat the purpose of trying to recover and reset receptors? And is it ok to run arimidex for ever?
 
Lol 250mg a week isn't recovering, try 200 and add in some less harsh compounds at lower doses such as anavar or masteron
 
The cycle above is my.current blast not a cruise, I dont cruise on tren, ive also read guys cruise on 300mg a week but yeah was curious if masteron or other less harsher steroids can be ran and what people have ran etc
 
There are many opinions on cruise dosage and exactly what that means. I just started this approach, and will share what I have found and the feedback I have gotten. Cruising is not recovering in the sense that you are kick starting your system and nurturing it back to top performance as you work to hold onto your cycle gains. Cruising on 300mg test between blasts, IMO, gives your system a break from higher dosages, but you are not looking for your natural Test to take back over. I plan and execute a PCT at the end of my cycles, I like the way it makes me feel and I like the idea of my natural system working, but I understand as long as I am introducing Test into my system I am going to remain shut down for the most part.

I recently read where some guys use 10mg Dbol along with 300mg Test E on a cruise. Anyone have insight on that?
 
buddhabuilder said:
There are many opinions on cruise dosage and exactly what that means. I just started this approach, and will share what I have found and the feedback I have gotten. Cruising is not recovering in the sense that you are kick starting your system and nurturing it back to top performance as you work to hold onto your cycle gains. Cruising on 300mg test between blasts, IMO, gives your system a break from higher dosages, but you are not looking for your natural Test to take back over. I plan and execute a PCT at the end of my cycles, I like the way it makes me feel and I like the idea of my natural system working, but I understand as long as I am introducing Test into my system I am going to remain shut down for the most part.

I recently read where some guys use 10mg Dbol along with 300mg Test E on a cruise. Anyone have insight on that?
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300mg cruise is a way to hold on to all your gains. Not a safe break from blasting. The idea behind cruising is to let your body somewhat normalize. Running a level of test that will keep your levels in a range low enough to allow your RBC, Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, lipids, and other things to try and normalize to avoid extended periods of elevation. Cruising is essentially going on TRT in between cycles to avoid having to run PCT. This TRT also lets you regulate your test levels to keep them a little higher than normal without getting bloods out of hand.
300mg wk is not a good dose for that. <200 mg wk is. "real" TRT is normally in the 100-150mg wk range trying to keep test around 1000ng/dl. This is why blood work is essential for people who "cruise".
 
burnthiscorpse said:
300mg cruise is a way to hold on to all your gains. Not a safe break from blasting. The idea behind cruising is to let your body somewhat normalize. Running a level of test that will keep your levels in a range low enough to allow your RBC, Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, lipids, and other things to try and normalize to avoid extended periods of elevation. Cruising is essentially going on TRT in between cycles to avoid having to run PCT. This TRT also lets you regulate your test levels to keep them a little higher than normal without getting bloods out of hand.
300mg wk is not a good dose for that. <200 mg wk is. "real" TRT is normally in the 100-150mg wk range trying to keep test around 1000ng/dl. This is why blood work is essential for people who "cruise".
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Burn hit the nail on the head here. When cruising, you shouldn't run anything more than you need, and you should keep your test levels in the upper normal range. The dose that will put you there can vary from person to person. That's why bloods are important so you can adjust the dosage up or down to put you in that range
 
Ok thanks alot guys I really appreciate it, I just got my bloods done and everything is pretty good considering im using tren atm, not normal but pretty close I get my bloods done very regularly and ill get them done after about 6 weeks into my cruise then 10 etc amd make sure iim 100% before I do another blast, by the sounds of the information u guys have given me its better to not run anything else on a cruise?
 
burnthiscorpse said:
300mg cruise is a way to hold on to all your gains. Not a safe break from blasting. The idea behind cruising is to let your body somewhat normalize. Running a level of test that will keep your levels in a range low enough to allow your RBC, Hematocrit, Hemoglobin, lipids, and other things to try and normalize to avoid extended periods of elevation. Cruising is essentially going on TRT in between cycles to avoid having to run PCT. This TRT also lets you regulate your test levels to keep them a little higher than normal without getting bloods out of hand.
300mg wk is not a good dose for that. <200 mg wk is. "real" TRT is normally in the 100-150mg wk range trying to keep test around 1000ng/dl. This is why blood work is essential for people who "cruise".
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Thanx Burn. If I can stretch this out a little more, so how long between 20 week cycles should there be a 200mg a week cruise. I know there will be some talk of what the cycles did or will consist of, but I'm looking for basics. Or is it all down to where you see "normalized" levels in the bloods?
 
I like something to help reduce shbg. Like proviron would be my choice. Or mast. But that's just my preference thus far.
 
buddhabuilder said:
Thanx Burn. If I can stretch this out a little more, so how long between 20 week cycles should there be a 200mg a week cruise. I know there will be some talk of what the cycles did or will consist of, but I'm looking for basics. Or is it all down to where you see "normalized" levels in the bloods?
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depends on your bloods.

every one is different and every situation is different.

it may take weeks for your RBC and other lipids to normalize or it may take months. i would bet though the majority of blast and cruisers DO NOT normalize shit lol. their lipids stay strained year round. problem with this is you may start developing some chronic issues like insomnia, heart ailments, feeling blah, etc. i also know for a fact that 99% of guys do not run bloodwork. all these problems you see when guys post and then you tell them to do bloodwork how often do they actually do it? 1% of the time.
 
Thanx Everyone, especially the OP for semi-hijacking your thread. Perhaps I do a thread where I post bloods 6 and 10 weeks out for feedback as a way to set a good example. Yea, I'll do that.
 
But once ur body had gained a certain amount of body mass wouldnt It be real hard to hold or gain at a low dose? I am asking because I want to learn
 
junior34 said:
But once ur body had gained a certain amount of body mass wouldnt It be real hard to hold or gain at a low dose? I am asking because I want to learn
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Only if you are way beyond your genetic potential...which 99.9% will never obtain. An example would be the pros. If a guy is 5'9" and 250 lbs on stage (4% body fat) he is well beyond his genetic potential and would probably have to cruise at a higher dose just to hold his size
 
RickRock13 said:
Only if you are way beyond your genetic potential...which 99.9% will never obtain. An example would be the pros. If a guy is 5'9" and 250 lbs on stage (4% body fat) he is well beyond his genetic potential and would probably have to cruise at a higher dose just to hold his size
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Makes perfect sense

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200mg each week is what I do. I also don't see anything wrong with experimenting with different compounds as long as you keep the total at 200mg or less. For example, I went from cruising 200mg test cyp to cruising 100mg cyp and 100mg tren enth. I felt good, got wood, and it did well with being more liberal in diet. I have friends that have done the same, also with test and mast.
 
Yo Burn, the cruise is test 100/ tren 100. Test ends up at 700. I don't need it higher. Everything else is normal. On my next tren blast, I'm going to check t3 levels, if low, I may add 25mcg each day which is about what your body makes. Tren can lower it which may lead to elevated prolactin.

As for the dude who doesn't think its a good idea, I appreciate your presumptuous opinion mostly based on bro-science but I'll do my thing so you can keep doing yours.
 
TheSVPdeal said:
Yo Burn, the cruise is test 100/ tren 100. Test ends up at 700. I don't need it higher. Everything else is normal. On my next tren blast, I'm going to check t3 levels, if low, I may add 25mcg each day which is about what your body makes. Tren can lower it which may lead to elevated prolactin.

As for the dude who doesn't think its a good idea, I appreciate your presumptuous opinion mostly based on bro-science but I'll do my thing so you can keep doing yours.
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Tren isn't just about T3. it suppresses your entire thyroid function (as does all AAS) which would mean how much T4 is made by the thyroid. If your T3 is low then that means your thyroid is suppressed to the point where your not making enough T4 to be converted to an adequate amount of T3. OR, you may be making enough T4 but the natural conversion isnt happening. If you supplement with T3 you will further halt any natural production of T4 and conversion to T3. T3 alone is not the answer for a lagging thyroid. That is old school bro science. If you want to support your thyroid while its being hammered by AAS then you need T4 so your own body can perform the conversion to T3. Unless of course through blood work you see that the conversion rate isn't enough then you need a cocktail of both if you are interested in being healthy. In which case actual real dessicated thyroid hormone is the only real answer.
 
That was actually going to be a question that I was going to ask regarding a mix of t3 and t4. Not that mine is suppressed but I think it's something that I want to keep an eye out for.
 
TheSVPdeal said:
That was actually going to be a question that I was going to ask regarding a mix of t3 and t4. Not that mine is suppressed but I think it's something that I want to keep an eye out for.
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If you have been cycling and are now cruising and cruising on tren no less then your thyroid is definitely suppressed to a degree. To what degree is individual dependent. This is why its a good idea to get a base line of T4 and T3 before drugs so that during drugs you can see how much things drop.
 
burnthiscorpse said:
If you have been cycling and are now cruising and cruising on tren no less then your thyroid is definitely suppressed to a degree. To what degree is individual dependent. This is why its a good idea to get a base line of T4 and T3 before drugs so that during drugs you can see how much things drop.
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I'll do that next month.
 
burnthiscorpse said:
Tren isn't just about T3. it suppresses your entire thyroid function (as does all AAS) which would mean how much T4 is made by the thyroid. If your T3 is low then that means your thyroid is suppressed to the point where your not making enough T4 to be converted to an adequate amount of T3. OR, you may be making enough T4 but the natural conversion isnt happening. If you supplement with T3 you will further halt any natural production of T4 and conversion to T3. T3 alone is not the answer for a lagging thyroid. That is old school bro science. If you want to support your thyroid while its being hammered by AAS then you need T4 so your own body can perform the conversion to T3. Unless of course through blood work you see that the conversion rate isn't enough then you need a cocktail of both if you are interested in being healthy. In which case actual real dessicated thyroid hormone is the only real answer.
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If anyone is worried about jacking up your thyroid, I've gotten into researching and taking iodine supplements and it sounds like fantastic thing to pct with for just about anything even slin, GH, not to mention tren. Nascent iodine. Very interesting nutrient.
 
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