crohn's/colitis and AAS

[shortstack]

Hey guys I have been trying for 8 months now to try get some info on how anabolic steroids would affect someone with crohns or colitis? Some guys have flared after taking gear and others have not. GI's (gastroenterologists say it will make my disease flare. Flex wheeler claims to have colitis so...? And Peter Neilsen (mr universe 1985) had crohn's. I wrote him and he said to stay away it will cause flare ups and to "buy my book on dieting". which i think is bs. You cant gain any weight whatsoever while flaring up! So I dont freaking know??
Any help would be so much appreciated.
thanks

-shortstack

 

[shortstack]

hey whats up blewsw32,
i know you helped me b4, but im just trying to get some new insight... how you been man?

 

[b1ewsw32]

hey whats up blewsw32,
i know you helped me b4, but im just trying to get some new insight... how you been man?

I'm surviving SS. Have you tried obtaining real var and incorporating it as th e study I posted definitely shows positive results with crohns and allows for an increased body-weight index with limited flare-ups. Deca can also be used but at the expense of libido, but if you flare-up from minimum amounts of test to sustain the libido ie. 100mgs/wk, then you might want to ditch the Deca-Bitch if libido and sexual function is a primary concern. Also I definitely recomend the HGH if you have a legitimate sourse and at a decent price.

Bro...You have to try something for yourself to know for sure, as you might not experience the same reaction as everyone else with crohns,IBS or ulcerative colitis. You'll never know if you dont try. You can always back off if the effects become too uncomfortable

Good Luck and keep me informed. Peace..B32

 

[shortstack]

yeah i know i should try it myself,
its just that my fking doc keeps telling me these horror stories of past client going through real bad flares from aas. and i would hate to lose 20 - 30 lbs of hard earned muscle. cause once i flare, stopping the cause wont stop the flare straight away. its a slow long drawn out irritating freaking process. but when it comes down to it i guess your right, i need to stop procratanating and try this if i really wanna find out! hey i wanting to know since you responded to my first post, what do you do for a living? just curious, sounds like your in the medical prof but i could be wrong. hey clen really gave me alot of endurance when i have taken it so dunno if that might help with your karate training? it might mess with you focus? ok man, thanks for being there!

-shortstack

 

[doubledown1]

my best friend has flare ups bad and hasnt had one since hes been cycling deca mostly.he used to constantly be on cortizone and losing weight and the doctors are blown away he hasnt been sick in over 6 years.when he feels hes getting sick he hits gear and it doesnt happen.

 

[ALIN]

Hey guys I have been trying for 8 months now to try get some info on how anabolic steroids would affect someone with crohns or colitis? Some guys have flared after taking gear and others have not. GI's (gastroenterologists say it will make my disease flare. Flex wheeler claims to have colitis so...? And Peter Neilsen (mr universe 1985) had crohn's. I wrote him and he said to stay away it will cause flare ups and to "buy my book on dieting". which i think is bs. You cant gain any weight whatsoever while flaring up! So I dont freaking know??
Any help would be so much appreciated.
thanks

-shortstack

perhaps injectables and no orals could be option? this shouldnt cause any gastro discomfort.

 

[needtogetaas]

Sounds like a good thread going here.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Yeah doudle d's first post it is to revive a post from 04 and shorty has been banned ?

Brad.

 

[needtogetaas]

Yeah doudle d's first post it is to revive a post from 04 and shorty has been banned ?

Brad.

Thanks for pointing that out. I will look into it.

 

[eddymerckx]

my bro-in-law (a long time ef bro but left after raw deal) had debilitating IBS--a bit of gear and it goes away. the only problem is that we are in colorado (altitude) plus long term gear can cause secondary ploycythemia (hemocrit gets way too high) so he is working on some sort of balance.

there have been a number of bros who swear by gear for ibs/crohn--just do a search

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Nice info for anyone who needs it in !!


Brad.

 

[perryscoon]

poop

 

[Selfcentor]

I can actully give some good insight for once! I have Crohns for like 12 years now. Prohormons i took which converted to Equipose made me feel the best i have ever felt. So i did a cycle of that and it made me feel great as well. I think they work better than PRednisone which is a cortico steroid which is complete diff than anabolic. But i am PRO AAS because i feel they did hte same as corticos but with better sides!! PM me if you have questions or ask on here.

 

[ErikAnthony]

Hi my name is Erik. I'm new to the board. Great site. Anyway I stumbled upon this thread and thought maybe you could offer me some advice. I was dig. w/ Colitis last august. My GI has given me Asacol (don't work) some enemas (don't work) and I was on that nasty Predisone. It worked but nasty side-effects were even worst that the disease plus as you know can't stay on those for long. So I basically been in a flare for almost a yr now and it sucks! I was 167lbs. last year ripped, now I'm a measly 147 lbs. And much weaker.
I still go to the gym. I'm too stibborn to quit. I have never used any AAS's before but now I'm angry and desperate, I want to get my weight back and feel/look good again. So I was wondering if you thought it would be a good idea? If it is safe and what to expect.
Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated thanks.

~erik~

 

[raffinato]

i hope its OK to post in here?

i am e new member and i registrated as i am nearing the completion of my research for a first cycle.
i just happened to find this post by coincidence, but its of great interest to me.

i have a Crohns, which hasnt been active since, dunno, 10+ years anyway.
i never even considered this in relation to flare up from AAS - as the disease is imo very stress-related and you should know by yourself how your are feeling (ie, if your feeling bad with stomach pains, i wouldnt "experiment" with AAS to see where rock-bottom is.
on the other hand, if ppl say that AAS have a positive effect on stomach diseases - then that sounds a lot more logical to me.

anyway, my first cycle will prolly start around end may, begin June and will look like this:
week 1-10 = 3ml Test En. / week
week 1-10 = 3ml Boldenone / week
week 1-4 = 30 mg D-Bol ed
week 4-10 = 50mg Proviron ED

i plan to use HCG from week 4 in 2 weekly shots of 250IU and a PCT with Nolva (clomid is has more possible sides and that newer stuff - cant remember name- isnt available yet here, Belgium)

i have doubted a lot before choosing what to do but according to a lot of people this is a good first cycle.
im 1m73 and im at 81 kilo now. my diet is decent. i try to eat as clean as possible (except sundays when i wolf down anything i can... :-/ ) i train 4x /week, have been training for some years now.

i have been told i will never again get the same effect of any cycle than the effect you get from a first cycle - is this true?
another question i have is about the HCG injections - these are like insuline shots, right? so Sub-Q - but what is the diameter on those needles ? or do most inject this also in muscles tissue?

all hints, tips, remarks welcome. as i said, i havent started cycle yet, and i only have bought the Test - since i wont remove that

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Hi my name is Erik. I'm new to the board. Great site. Anyway I stumbled upon this thread and thought maybe you could offer me some advice. I was dig. w/ Colitis last august. My GI has given me Asacol (don't work) some enemas (don't work) and I was on that nasty Predisone. It worked but nasty side-effects were even worst that the disease plus as you know can't stay on those for long. So I basically been in a flare for almost a yr now and it sucks! I was 167lbs. last year ripped, now I'm a measly 147 lbs. And much weaker.
I still go to the gym. I'm too stibborn to quit. I have never used any AAS's before but now I'm angry and desperate, I want to get my weight back and feel/look good again. So I was wondering if you thought it would be a good idea? If it is safe and what to expect.
Any info or advice would be greatly appreciated thanks.

~erik~

ask your doctor for a medecine thats called Remicade.
i never take any pills or what so ever. i just need to go to the hospital 4/year to get a injection with that stuff. it could work for you as well i guess. but as i said above, its mostly stress-related imo.

good luck

 

[ErikAnthony]

Thanks for the advice Raff! I will def. ask the GI about Remicade. A yr in a flare is much too long. As far a the AAS's go I think I will give it A try if it makes things worse I will stop. I'm thinking it can't be any worst than that Predisone junk. Many ppl have said it has actually hepled them. Unfortunatly I'm almost sure the Doc won't prescribe me anything like that because they're all drones for the goverment. Foutunate I have a connection for some things. I was gonna try Sustanon stacked w/ Dbol for my first cycle. Any thoughts or advice from the veterans would be much appreciated. thanks