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Critique my friend's advice...

patro

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A friend from college wrote to me when I asked him about my diet. I want to lose weight and put on muscle. I'm 5'11" 193 and 27.

Does what he says look good? Thanks.


Ok dude, I will need you to do this...
1. The next time you go into the gym, I need you to max out on all the
lifts. That means, let's find out what the max weight is you can do once,
maybe two reps.
Now when you do this be reasonable but don't be a pussy. Find the middle
ground so you don't injure yourself. The idea is to get a point of max, in
order to work towards and surpass. When you do this, if your brother or
someone can spot you on these lifts, that would be great... and remember that
good form and a lower weight is better than a high weight and destroyed
joints/tendons.
2. Once you have the weights for me I will give you the weight program to
couple with the regime I will give you for reps and days, combined also with
the nutrition joint. (*That will come in email two, so this isn't overly
long.)
3. Consider looking at your budget and seeing where you spend money on food.
If there's no budget issue then forget it. You need to be looking at high
protein and carbohydrate meals. This would be breads (not white!), meats
(steak, chicken, fish and pork...I put them in order of priority for building
muscle initially), dairy products (cheese, cottage cheese, milk, etc.). Now
don't worry about the fat in the meats and dairies because your body needs
fat just as much as everything else (if you can handle it, 2% milk and
cottage cheese-put fruit in it, it is good...like pineapple or something).
The idea is to have the fat break down before it has a chance to
process...that which does not break down sticks to the waist and ass, LOL
The rest is burned like a carbohydrate...ENERGY, very potent energy too! So
keep on the schedule if you are going to eat this or YOU WILL GET MAD FAT,
TRUST ME, LOL!
Now we need to talk starches. I personally like potatos for this. I think
you can use potatoes in almost anything and never get bored of it. Things
like yams and shit are also starchy...my suggestion is to look for one of
your favorite "starch" foods and switch it in and out with the potatoes.
This is a great foundation with the energies from fats and carbs.
Ok, now to compliment those foods with snacks of fruit and veggies (not just
carrots and shit but small red tomatoes, green/red peppers, Romaine lettuce
-Iceberg is just water, no nutrition at all) This will help give you balance
to the meats and shit. Fruits and veggies that are colorful have a lot of
Vitamins and minerals you want for natural growth...the chemical breakdown is
added energy and assits in proper digestion, with the slow burning of meats
and shit.
Now we have hit the fats, proteins, carbohydrates and other shit. What you
need to do is start getting yourself ready to eat at least 5 times a day.
This will get to a point that you will need to eat to keep your energy
up...eventually you will literally feel the energy powerdown. In the
beginning, you will almost have to force yourself to eat. If you feel that's
the case, portion the meals smaller but always keeping the meats and dairies
higher....AND DON'T STOP WORKING OUT!
I will have a schedule of eats in the next joint. The last thing is not to
take the creatine shit and other "amino acid" products out there. You will
get everything and more out of the food. You simply adjust the food and how
much based on what you want. The only vitamin that I endorse is one that I
use, Nikken (Nikken.com). It is from this Japanese company that fishes these
minerals and vitamins out from the bottom of the sea. I have a dealer
discount if you are interested. They need to be taken four times a day and
they will work, GUARANTEED! It is a long story behind them and if you want
to hear it, let me know but I do reccommend them.
Ok later.
Bruzr

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Patro, not to flame you at all here; hell, I realize you're coming here for advice and I'm sure everyone here admires the fact that you seem really eager to do this right, but here's some advice:

A lot of people here might almost not know where to start when it comes to giving advice, since it quite honestly seems that you know VERY little about proper training, diet, etc.; so they may simply not answer your question at all, (especially the more knowledgeable veterans around here). What I'd recommend is that you run a few searches on this forum, find a few diet plans, get an idea of what types of food to eat, etc. Find a few people's routines, read what feedback they've been given, etc.

Learning a good lifting/diet routine from scratch is tough. Give these message boards a few good reads. I have some internet bookmarks that might help you get started, I just don't have the time this minute to dig them out; i gotta get some sleep. Maybe somebody else can help this guy out?

[This message has been edited by Belial (edited April 18, 2001).]
 
Well damn. I guess I'm on my own. I understand your position, though, about not knowing where to start.

But what I was really wondering...is if my friend's advice looked accurate...



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Yeah, that advice is pretty solid.

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Arnold, "Keep looking."
 
Good advice, but I disagree on the creatine, it works! It's an easy 6-10 lbs for me.

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the advice is a good starting point, though he never asked how much you weigh, so i doubt he is interested in telling you exactly how many calories to take in. he is thinking to just eat and eat, with no regards to carb/pro/fat ratios. with that in mind, if you are just overeating, the fat will stick to your "midsection and ass" like he said but not just from the fat you eat, but unused carbohydrates and protein too.

"dealer discount" hehe. thats funny. ask him what type of absorption rate his vitamins that he recommends have. also ask if the company uses pharmaceutical standards or supplement industry standards. (guarantee he will say pharm ;) )is the multivitamin taking into account what type of diet you plan to eat? high carb or high protein, most dont take that into consideration and you can be deficient in one area or another. sorry this should probably go on the supp board but its part of the post. hehe.

good luck. most of what he says is sound but not comprehensive for your situation. its a good base to learn from though.
 
Thanks you guys. I'll just keep reading and follow the advice I see and see what happens. I realize this take quite a bit of initiative and common sense. You can't just expect somebody to hold your hand and tell you exactly what to do and what not to do when, why, and how every second of they day.

Thanks for your help.

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