critique my 1st cycle

[ajperretta]

For me, dbol adds way too much water weight. If you don't have aromasin or arimadex, i'd suggest cutting it out of your first cycle. You might end up with blood pressure issues too early into your cycle.

I've heard both sides on nolvadex. Some people say it's no good, but I was fine with it. I can't say whether or not it will work for you.

I'd just run test for about 8-10 weeks. You will be able to see how your body responds to just one thing. If you run too many compounds, and have side effects, there is no way to know for sure which one is giving you trouble. You will get great gains on just test. Go simple because test will be your base for future cycles and you need to know how you respond to it. If you want to run more compounds later, at least you have a base to build from and then you can adjust dosages on the other compounds if you get side effects.

 

[dylangemelli]

For me, dbol adds way too much water weight. If you don't have aromasin or arimadex, i'd suggest cutting it out of your first cycle. You might end up with blood pressure issues too early into your cycle.

I've heard both sides on nolvadex. Some people say it's no good, but I was fine with it. I can't say whether or not it will work for you.

I'd just run test for about 8-10 weeks. You will be able to see how your body responds to just one thing. If you run too many compounds, and have side effects, there is no way to know for sure which one is giving you trouble. You will get great gains on just test. Go simple because test will be your base for future cycles and you need to know how you respond to it. If you want to run more compounds later, at least you have a base to build from and then you can adjust dosages on the other compounds if you get side effects.

running test e or cyp for 8 weeks is a complete waste and that's not good advice to be giving a first time user... 10 weeks would be the minimum and 12 is the average... the only time he would run test 8 weeks would be if he was running prop and there again would not be a good thing to run as a first cycle... the longer esters don't even start to kick in until week 5...

 

[dylangemelli]

I thought about adding a little bit of var toward the end, what would be the best doseage for ending a cycle on var?

60 mg the first four weeks and then bump to 80 mg the last two weeks

 

[ajperretta]

running test e or cyp for 8 weeks is a complete waste and that's not good advice to be giving a first time user... 10 weeks would be the minimum and 12 is the average... the only time he would run test 8 weeks would be if he was running prop and there again would not be a good thing to run as a first cycle... the longer esters don't even start to kick in until week 5...

I'm just going from experience and from what the guys at my gym have done and had success with. I realize 12 is average. I ran 9 weeks of test at low levels and still put on 11 lbs of lean mass. Even at 8 weeks, I would have had similar gains. I didn't feel like it was a waste not to run 12 weeks. I didn't prepare for sides, so i quit at 9 weeks due to bloating. OP may have the same issue, but if not, he can always extend the cycle.

 

[jcmbbfuture]

I wouldn't say 8 weeks is a waste. 4 weeks or so is when u reach peak levels and over the next 2-4 weeks is where u will see the greatest growth and progress. U can yield good results on 8 weeks. U will still grow in to weeks 9-10 but they growth will most likely be marginal in comparison. I would personally go 10 but 12 is unnecessary for a 1st time.

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