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robertr54333
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Hey guys, so I'm and endurance athlete and I am experiencing what I think are crippling back pumps from my roids. However I'm trying to figure out if this is actually an injury of some sort or just pumps from my aas. The pain I feel is like a very intense tightness from a muscle cramp but it doesn't subside until I stop running, so I constant relentless cramping. I feel it right on the erector spinae, so on the sides around the spine that are the lower back muscles. Would you guys say this is what you felt when you had your back pumps?
Now if these are from my aas, I really need to cut the roid that's causing this or rid the pumps another way. Here's my cycle. Yes they're low doses since I wanted the cycle mostly for recovery and maintaining lean mass to counteract catabolic heavy running mileage.
Test prop 200 mg/ wk
Mast prop 300 mg / wk
Npp 200 mg/wk
Tbol 25 mg/ day weeks 5-8
Var 30 mg / day weeks 1-4
Halotestin 20 mg once or twice per week for a hard workout
1. Now I've read orals can cause pumps, so my first plan is to cut out the orals. However, is it common for injectables to cause pumps?
2. Has anyone found high doses of taurine to get rid of the pumps? I'm also hydrating a ton and keeping sodium low. taking 10g taurine the past few days pre workout but hasn't helped much yet
3. I haven't read bad pumps as a halo side anywhere but has anyone had this?
4. How long after stopping my orals should I expect pumps to subside ( assuming the orals cause this?) I stopped them a few days ago and still have no relief
5. If one type or aas gave you pumps, does that mean all pump inducing roids will make you suffer? Like are some people predisposed to bad pumps as a general side effect for most of their aas?
6. Are pumps the result of excessive by water retention? I have gained 15 lbs on this cycle but I dont look bloated and I'm taking .5mg liquidex EOD. Also keeping sodium limited and drinking 1.5 gallons water per day.
7. Could this actually be kidneys pain from the toxic orals? I doubt this since my pump gets worse when I run or go up stairs/hills or do squats and completely subsides once I stop for a minute, making me think its muscular.
Now if these are from my aas, I really need to cut the roid that's causing this or rid the pumps another way. Here's my cycle. Yes they're low doses since I wanted the cycle mostly for recovery and maintaining lean mass to counteract catabolic heavy running mileage.
Test prop 200 mg/ wk
Mast prop 300 mg / wk
Npp 200 mg/wk
Tbol 25 mg/ day weeks 5-8
Var 30 mg / day weeks 1-4
Halotestin 20 mg once or twice per week for a hard workout
1. Now I've read orals can cause pumps, so my first plan is to cut out the orals. However, is it common for injectables to cause pumps?
2. Has anyone found high doses of taurine to get rid of the pumps? I'm also hydrating a ton and keeping sodium low. taking 10g taurine the past few days pre workout but hasn't helped much yet
3. I haven't read bad pumps as a halo side anywhere but has anyone had this?
4. How long after stopping my orals should I expect pumps to subside ( assuming the orals cause this?) I stopped them a few days ago and still have no relief
5. If one type or aas gave you pumps, does that mean all pump inducing roids will make you suffer? Like are some people predisposed to bad pumps as a general side effect for most of their aas?
6. Are pumps the result of excessive by water retention? I have gained 15 lbs on this cycle but I dont look bloated and I'm taking .5mg liquidex EOD. Also keeping sodium limited and drinking 1.5 gallons water per day.
7. Could this actually be kidneys pain from the toxic orals? I doubt this since my pump gets worse when I run or go up stairs/hills or do squats and completely subsides once I stop for a minute, making me think its muscular.
