Congress - HGH - & Professional Athletics

[mrplunkey]

None of which requires anabolic steroids to overcome...none of it. Would AAS get them back on the field sooner, of course. As for degenerative joint disease that is a laughable assertion....only happens to the guys that don't take care of themselves. There's that "personal responsability" you're always talking about. Howie Long looks like crap doesn't he? Strahan looks like he'll be using a walker soon too doesn't he?

You missed the entire point. This has nothing to do with using steroids to overcome anything.

You don't think steroids should be allowed in sports because it sets a de facto standard for the use of substances with possible negative downstream effects. But players are already sign-up for a whole host of negative downstream effects, many of which are far more measurable and deleterious than the effects of AAS.


That's what makes your logic terribly flawed. You'd be far better off to argue that steroids are against league rules, which is an entirely different line of reasoning.

no idea. Honestly. The cleveland clinc told me it was possible AAS had something to do with my heart issue but nothing could be said for certain as they really didn't know what was going on with me in the first place.

So you are projecting your own terrible decisions onto other peoples' freedom to use AAS?

P.S. Quote system is still kicking your ass!

 

[redsamurai]

You missed the entire point. This has nothing to do with using steroids to overcome anything.

You don't think steroids should be allowed in sports because it sets a de facto standard for the use of substances with possible negative downstream effects. But players are already sign-up for a whole host of negative downstream effects, many of which are far more measurable and deleterious than the effects of AAS.

no, you're missing the point...there are inherent things you have to accept when doing anything physical in this world. People who work on farms for a living know they're gonna have to keep watch on their backs. Replacing your natural hormones with synthetic ones is not what you think of when you're a kid wanting to play sports. There were people walking 2000 some years ago that were able to do everything AND WAY MORE than what athletes today are capable of....were people mixing up tren in their basements back then?

That's what makes your logic terribly flawed. You'd be far better off to argue that steroids are against league rules, which is an entirely different line of reasoning.

I don't see how. Marijuana is against league rules but yet has ZERO performance enhancing qualities.

So you are projecting your own terrible decisions onto other peoples' freedom to use AAS?

P.S. Quote system is still kicking your as

Ummm, no...where am i projecting? I beleive I emphatically stated that anyone on this board, who is obviously not a professional athlete, should be able to do as they please with their own bodies. Stated that numerous times you should seek to increase your reading comprehension.

 

[mrplunkey]

no, you're missing the point...there are inherent things you have to accept when doing anything physical in this world. People who work on farms for a living know they're gonna have to keep watch on their backs. Replacing your natural hormones with synthetic ones is not what you think of when you're a kid wanting to play sports. There were people walking 2000 some years ago that were able to do everything AND WAY MORE than what athletes today are capable of....were people mixing up tren in their basements back then?



I don't see how. Marijuana is against league rules but yet has ZERO performance enhancing qualities.



Ummm, no...where am i projecting? I beleive I emphatically stated that anyone on this board, who is obviously not a professional athlete, should be able to do as they please with their own bodies. Stated that numerous times you should seek to increase your reading comprehension.

I've got to hear the BS reasoning behind this claim.

Please elaborate.

 

[redsamurai]

"An analysis of the footsteps of [an Australian aboriginal from 20,000 years ago], dubbed T8, shows he reached speeds of 37 kph on a soft, muddy lake edge. [World record holder Usain] Bolt, by comparison, reached a top speed of 42 kph during his then world 100 meters record of 9.69 seconds at last year’s Beijing Olympics. With modern training, spiked shoes and rubberized tracks, aboriginal hunters might have reached speeds of 45 kph."

Our best athlete today can hold that output for 9 seconds...these guys did that in bare feet all day long.

"Modern soldiers are expected to be able to march 25 miles in a day with a 55lb pack Roman soldiers walked nearly 40 miles a day with fifty pounds of supplies."

and these were Romans, who compared to the Spartans were pussies. Spartans could wear full armor plus that much in pack and run somewhere, drop the pack and commence combat.

“The human body is very plastic and it responds to stress. We have lost 40 percent of the shafts of our long bones because we have much less of a muscular load placed upon them these days. We are simply not exposed to the same loads or challenges that people were in the ancient past and even in the recent past so our bodies haven’t developed. Even the level of training that we do, our elite athletes, doesn’t come close to replicating that.”


lots to find on this subject.

 

[mrplunkey]

"An analysis of the footsteps of [an Australian aboriginal from 20,000 years ago], dubbed T8, shows he reached speeds of 37 kph on a soft, muddy lake edge. [World record holder Usain] Bolt, by comparison, reached a top speed of 42 kph during his then world 100 meters record of 9.69 seconds at last year’s Beijing Olympics. With modern training, spiked shoes and rubberized tracks, aboriginal hunters might have reached speeds of 45 kph."

Our best athlete today can hold that output for 9 seconds...these guys did that in bare feet all day long.

"Modern soldiers are expected to be able to march 25 miles in a day with a 55lb pack Roman soldiers walked nearly 40 miles a day with fifty pounds of supplies."

and these were Romans, who compared to the Spartans were pussies. Spartans could wear full armor plus that much in pack and run somewhere, drop the pack and commence combat.

“The human body is very plastic and it responds to stress. We have lost 40 percent of the shafts of our long bones because we have much less of a muscular load placed upon them these days. We are simply not exposed to the same loads or challenges that people were in the ancient past and even in the recent past so our bodies haven’t developed. Even the level of training that we do, our elite athletes, doesn’t come close to replicating that.”


lots to find on this subject.

Link to peer reviewed published articles?

 

[redsamurai]

Link to peer reviewed published articles?

"google"

 

[mrplunkey]

"google"

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call it now: It's some guy trying to pimp a book that successfully got to you.

You're a marketer's dream.

Mark my words, I'll sell you some "locally-grown, all-natural, 100% organic" something someday.

 

[redsamurai]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and call it now: It's some guy trying to pimp a book that successfully got to you.

You're a marketer's dream.

Mark my words, I'll sell you some "locally-grown, all-natural, 100% organic" something someday.

1) it was from an anthropology dept.
2) Oh god go back to the godzilla avi

 

[mrplunkey]

1) it was from an anthropology dept.
2) Oh god go back to the godzilla avi

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0733623913

Busted.

 

[redsamurai]

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/07...=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0733623913

Busted.

the quote was from a university anthro dept, maybe it was the guy who wrote that book i have no idea. Same with the other quotes, but not from the same dept.