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Confused about diet (bulking); need help (long)

statey01

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I’m 30, 5’11”, 194 lbs, probably 15% BF. I’m doing needsize’s 5x5 program (M,T, Th, F) and no cardio.

I've been reading these boards and searching for info to put together an eating program to bulk without gaining a bunch a ton of fat (though I know I’ll gain some). There are varying opinions on most issues, but from I’ve read the main things I need to do are:

* Eat a surplus of calories from clean foods (calories = 15-20 x bodyweight)
* Eat at least a gram of protein per bodyweight.
* Eat 6+ times per day, consuming about 1/6 of your daily protein intake at each meal.
* Eat only protein + carbs or protein + fat meals (don’t mix carbs & fat).
* Avoid refined/high GI carbs. Stick to oats, sweet potatoes, and green veggies for carbs.
* Fats should come primarily from EFA’s, extra virgin olive oil, flax/fish oil, and natty pb.

I’m confused about the following:

* Macronutrient ratios. If I’m only taking in 200g of protein a day, but I need 3,500 – 4,000 calories a day, then protein is only making up <25% (800 calories) of my daily diet – WAY low.
So do I double my protein intake? If not, where I do get the rest of my calories from, since the fibrous carbs are so low in cals?
Maybe if someone with similar calorie requirements could post a sample day of meals, that would help.

* The protein + carbs or protein + fat meals. Does everyone follow this guideline of not mixing carbs & fats at the same meal?

* I workout early in the morning. I take a scoop of ON protein powder (23g) with half of a banana 30 minutes before I workout (that’s the earliest I can eat), and take two scoops of protein powder (46g) in 12 oz. skim milk with a cup of strawberries or blueberries post-workout. Is this okay?

* I've been thinking about incorportating some HIIT cardio on Wed and Sat. Is this a bad idea?

Thanks & karma to all who help.
 
if yoru bulking i would merely go on a see-food type diet making sur u get in enough protein. alot of bros on the diet discussion board are a little too anal retentive about low carb dieting, dont get me wrong bros i started out ont his board but for bulking i think much less atention needs to be paid about macronutrient ratios and mixing of foods, miscalculations could hinder your gains and there is plenty of time for discipline when cutting. I know personally after going on a ckd i didn't gain much becuz when i went to bulk i was still in the no carb frame of mind, but i been gaining a poind and a half a week for the past month on a high protein high carb moderate fat diet and im staying very lean. good luck to u, just my 2 cents

k is welcome
 
If you are training intensely and consistently, don't spend time worrying about that end of it.

You need to be taking in a minimum of 350g of protein per day if you are around 200# and trying to put on muscle.
 
Mr. X has covered a lot of this in his bulking up guides. They're all available form www.massmonsters.net (click "info" --> "Mr. X's Articles"). You might have to sign up to access them, but it takes just a second. X knows his shit, it's worth it.

Also... I would avoid the aforementioned see-food diet. If there's one thing I've learned, it is: you are what you eat. Eat shit, you'll look like it and feel like it. Eat clean, generous portions, and you'll pack on the lbs. and feel great.

I've heard HIIT is the only quasi-cardio thing you should do while bulking, but I can't personally recommend it as I've never tried it. Give it a shot, see what happens.

I'll be joining you soon in the quest for mass.

--the guy
 
the guy on the couch said:
Eat shit, you'll look like it and feel like it. Eat clean, generous portions, and you'll pack on the lbs. and feel great.

--the guy

I'll agree with that, you can pile drive a cheat meal once a week though
 
Keeters Coober™ said:
I'll agree with that, you can pile drive a cheat meal once a week though

Agreed. It's great if you're really having difficulties avoiding the sweets... it's something to look forward to.

Thx for the k

--The Guy
 
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