confirmed deaths?????

[jeb0177]

confirmed deaths due to steroids?????

Has anyone actually seen or have access to a report of any kind that actually links steroids to death? I'm trying to see how many deaths steroids cause each year, but I can't even find one in history, don't flame me i'm a steroid user as u boys as well.

 

[jeb0177]

I found this article that states a death attributed to steroid use according to author Bob Goldman in a Flex Magazine article and in his book DEATH IN THE LOCKER ROOM; the case of Daniel Baroudi, a serious bodybuilder who had self-prescribed a series of different anabolic steroids over a 5-7 year period. Baroudi developed primary liver cancer and his doctors concluded that it was his heavy use of oral steroids that had induced his cancer. Sadly Mr. Baroudi died in 1984.

In 1985 another serious recreational bodybuilder, William Loomis, was hospitalized with cancerous tumor of his liver. Mr. Loomis had been using doctor-prescibed Anadrol, non-stop, for almost 2 years. It was not a high dose but Anadrol is a notorious Liver-unfriendly, oral steroid. Mr. Loomis did have periodic blood exams, which ofted do not detect the presence of a tumor which was the case here.

 

[Stainless_Steel]

There probably aren't any. If there was you know that bush and all the other anti-steroid people would be using that statistic to confirm there BS. If there is any I am willing to bet that it isn't that high a number and it is from people abusing them.

 

[northern]

Has anyone actually seen or have access to a report of any kind that actually links steroids to death? I'm trying to see how many deaths steroids cause each year, but I can't even find one in history, don't flame me i'm a steroid user as u boys as well.

It's impossible to directly link steroid use to death. No doubt the long term abuse of steroids can cause problems that may result in a condition that ultimately results in ones death, but to prove that an AAS directly caused a death is impossible . Unlike smoking or drinking, there hasn't been any long term studies conducted on the use of anabolics. Responsible use is the best bet. Research the risks and ways to minimize them, but don't appeal to ignorance and assume that they can't cause death only because you can't find any hard evidence.

 

[jeb0177]

yeah that's true but I think these are all liver things, it seems. But would it be the steroids actually causing it, or just undue stress on the liver in general? Alcohol could be associated too, and it may be oral steroids in general just pushing the liver too far, not necessarily one specific type.

 

[jeb0177]

I think that It isn't the steroid that is eating the liver its that its an oral drug DESIGNED to resist liver breakdown which causes liver stress.

Look at Tylenol abusers, they helped put it #2 on the map for causes of cirrhosis.

It's impossible to directly link steroid use to death. No doubt the long term abuse of steroids can cause problems that may result in a condition that ultimately results in ones death, but to prove that an AAS directly caused a death is impossible . Unlike smoking or drinking, there hasn't been any long term studies conducted on the use of anabolics. Responsible use is the best bet. Research the risks and ways to minimize them, but don't appeal to ignorance and assume that they can't cause death only because you can't find any hard evidence.

 

[northern]

yeah that's true but I think these are all liver things, it seems. But would it be the steroids actually causing it, or just undue stress on the liver in general? Alcohol could be associated too, and it may be oral steroids in general just pushing the liver too far, not necessarily one specific type.

They each have their own effect on the body, and in knowing this we can take the necessary precautions to avoid serious complications. I think the horror stories come from people who were ignorant of steroid use or simply wanted to win at any cost.

 

[galaxy]

Well Jeep Swenson died of a massive heart attack as did the Masters Mr. Olympia. Im sure they were steroid related. Dont kid yourself if you dont think they were. I mean these guys were 300lbs. That isnt healthy period. Tom Prince and Flex Wheeler have kidney problems and may eventually die because of it.

 

[jeb0177]

It takes time to die from steroids, cholestrol doesn't kill you overnight, as an example.
If you want to die quickly, you need to screw up with your insulin useage.

Mike Matarazzo was close to death at 39 years of age, but he had his arteries cleared in time. So steroids, no. Its not something that can kill you overnight unless you already have very high BP and it somehow sets you over the edge and you die of a heart attack or brain hemorage.

 

[jeb0177]

supposed that Tom Prince thing he said that his doctor told him it wasnt the high levels of test, hgh, and all the anabolics but it was the 8-20 advil per day he was taking that destroyed his kidneys. If you guys remember his kidneys went (instead of liver) but it is interesting to note that it is the PILLS DESIGNED TO PASS THROUGH that destroys the liver. too much stress.

Well Jeep Swenson died of a massive heart attack as did the Masters Mr. Olympia. Im sure they were steroid related. Dont kid yourself if you dont think they were. I mean these guys were 300lbs. That isnt healthy period. Tom Prince and Flex Wheeler have kidney problems and may eventually die because of it.