compound to add to help with cutting and getting more vascular

[lander2312]

Well title says it all....currently running 200/test cyp every 5 days. I have 2 bottles of helladrol and an older bottle/version of diselbolon on hand. Not sure if either of those would help. I have my top 4 abs in but just cant cut that last bit of lower belly fat. I know the answer is diet...and I am watching it tight. Carb cycling right now while running a cal deficit to cut down to where i am now. Anyone have experience with the n2 product....maybe even the big man himself to chime in on this one.

 

[gymjunkie09]

Well title says it all....currently running 200/test cyp every 5 days. I have 2 bottles of helladrol and an older bottle/version of diselbolon on hand. Not sure if either of those would help. I have my top 4 abs in but just cant cut that last bit of lower belly fat. I know the answer is diet...and I am watching it tight. Carb cycling right now while running a cal deficit to cut down to where i am now. Anyone have experience with the n2 product....maybe even the big man himself to chime in on this one.

option 1.) proviron+N2AMP
option 2.) Var+N2AMP
option 3.) all of the above....my choice

 

[dylangemelli]

Well title says it all....currently running 200/test cyp every 5 days. I have 2 bottles of helladrol and an older bottle/version of diselbolon on hand. Not sure if either of those would help. I have my top 4 abs in but just cant cut that last bit of lower belly fat. I know the answer is diet...and I am watching it tight. Carb cycling right now while running a cal deficit to cut down to where i am now. Anyone have experience with the n2 product....maybe even the big man himself to chime in on this one.

hey man... like my boy gymjunkie said, i would add in anavar or proviron, personally i would add them both (which i already did on my current cycle) but in all honesty, i think you are more likely to be able to cut and burn when your are finished with pct... although if you add var and proviron along with sarms s4 it will definitely help... you may want to add forma stanzol in as well... I can tell you this right now, the old version of dieselbolan is a huge water gainer so that is definitely not an option and helladrol wouldn't be back but i think you should go with what was recommended... after pct, i could set you up on a bad ass cutting bridge... just let me know!

 

[insanityapproved]

one thing that needs to be mentioned here.

Cyp is just as good of a cutter as any other test ester.

There are compounds that will hold more water on you indeed but that does not make them ineffective at fat loss! water retention has NOTHING to do with fat loss!
You might not see your abs for those few weeks but personally and in my clients I see that the pleasing effect is even better when those are used because when those weeks are over and you go off gear, bang! the water goes out and you realise how lean you actually got, because the water was making you unable to see the result while on. Just keep dieting and wait patiently. Nothing better than looking better when you go off gear. From a purely psychological perspective so much better than using compounds which keep you dry during cycle because then when you go off you will look worse without a doubt and you will be stuck in an endless cycle of waiting to get back on gear and look good again.... Your goal must be to look at least as good while off!

But of course as I always say, that's just my opinion!
You should be able to achieve tremendous fat loss with test alone if your diet is really on spot.. But I'll admit your dosages are low for that purpose. I would double that cyp for the time planned cutting.

 

[TheRippedReverend]

one thing that needs to be mentioned here.

Cyp is just as good of a cutter as any other test ester.

There are compounds that will hold more water on you indeed but that does not make them ineffective at fat loss! water retention has NOTHING to do with fat loss!
You might not see your abs for those few weeks but personally and in my clients I see that the pleasing effect is even better when those are used because when those weeks are over and you go off gear, bang! the water goes out and you realise how lean you actually got, because the water was making you unable to see the result while on. Just keep dieting and wait patiently. Nothing better than looking better when you go off gear. From a purely psychological perspective so much better than using compounds which keep you dry during cycle because then when you go off you will look worse without a doubt and you will be stuck in an endless cycle of waiting to get back on gear and look good again.... Your goal must be to look at least as good while off!

But of course as I always say, that's just my opinion!
You should be able to achieve tremendous fat loss with test alone if your diet is really on spot.. But I'll admit your dosages are low for that purpose. I would double that cyp for the time planned cutting.

This^^^^^. Fab. Post!!!!!

 

[SouthernLord]

What kind of cardio are you doing?

 

[stevesmi]

forged burner has helped me kill my appetite. so if you have trouble on that diet you are on curbing your appetite take a cap in the morning and it will help tremendously.

N2amp and stim are tremendous products as well which will aid your goals.

i would say if your diet is on point combined with any of the mentioned products would be tremendous

let us know which one you use and how it goes

 

[Essie]

one thing that needs to be mentioned here.

Cyp is just as good of a cutter as any other test ester.

There are compounds that will hold more water on you indeed but that does not make them ineffective at fat loss! water retention has NOTHING to do with fat loss!
You might not see your abs for those few weeks but personally and in my clients I see that the pleasing effect is even better when those are used because when those weeks are over and you go off gear, bang! the water goes out and you realise how lean you actually got, because the water was making you unable to see the result while on. Just keep dieting and wait patiently. Nothing better than looking better when you go off gear. From a purely psychological perspective so much better than using compounds which keep you dry during cycle because then when you go off you will look worse without a doubt and you will be stuck in an endless cycle of waiting to get back on gear and look good again.... Your goal must be to look at least as good while off!

But of course as I always say, that's just my opinion!
You should be able to achieve tremendous fat loss with test alone if your diet is really on spot.. But I'll admit your dosages are low for that purpose. I would double that cyp for the time planned cutting.

^^^^^ Sound break down!

 

[RickRock13]

I agree with Insanity. You have all you need with the test you are on. Just adjust the diet and cardio, and BAM you'll be there

 

[lander2312]

Yeah still working it....veins in forearms,bi's,and shoulders. Can still see top 4 abs and obliques but that damn lower ab section is still fighting me. Going off diet for memorial weekend....maybe I need the break to see some results.

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[RADAR]

If you would fasted am cardio after 14-16hrs from your last meal expect to see a hatchett job around week 3. if your diet is in check.

 

[strentrainin]

+1 for fasted cardio and diet. Diet is really everything, the more I tweak it and the more I see how my body reacts on certain macro amounts, carbs etc. The more I understand how to feed my body depending on my goals. There are tons of pretty good affordable products compounds out there to get you more vascular or hard. Pick one up and give it ago. It's all trial and error weather its diet, training or supplementation. I will tell you this, var made me more vascular than anything I've used and I'm about 11-12% bf. Id run it in every cycle bulking or cutting if I can afford it.

 

[Keith1]

Gh in the morning before your fasted cardio

 

[lander2312]

Update...i cant believe it but after my weekend of evil and deviance I actually looked better in the mirror. Much fuller/bigger more definition all over and even went down another half inch in lower ab area. Back on diet bur believe I need more complex carbs so going to keep them in diet for next week and see how it goes

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[shirlene29]

thats actually the predicted result with correct carb cycling and or cheat days lander...

what were you cycling them at previously? Im wondering if you were at a constant too low or still at a surplus if you came up with a daily average by the weeks worth

the glycogen '"charge up" so to speak from a day of decadent eating should go straight for muscle if done correctly which will create fuller muscles (glycogen=water=fullness) by drawing sub-q water into muscles
its water manipulation
it really only works in someone that hits the gym or sports hard tho and has a good low bf to begin with...which sounds like you've got goin on