Completely lost libido 5 weeks into cycle!

[RickRock13]

I would stay away from the proviron. That's not the answer to your problems by any means. Adding another steroid you don't need isn't solving anything. You need to get your estrogen down with an AI and run some Caber. I have already stated dosages, so I'm not going to repeat myself again

 

[Zinergy]

Why is this difficult. Everyone has already said your estrogen is fucked.

You need a AI, and a Dopamine agonist (aromisin and caber). There are many they will all work.

If you want to be stubborn and continue running the cycle at least do that, or just stop and go into PCT. Stupid choice to run deca if you plan to recover.

 

[Russianstar]

If you want I can give you a thesis and a paper with studies to help you make the right decision.

I said he could pm me to help Dylan.. no need to edit my posts mate, I never edited any of yours on n2bm.


I learned a long time ago, you just cant beat bro-science.. throw everything at a problem, even though you don't know the science behind what your body is telling you. I love hearing all their qualifications.

 

[Zinergy]

^ Coming from the guy claiming decanoate is faster acting than enanthate? LOL!

 

[Russianstar]

^ Coming from the guy claiming decanoate is faster acting than enanthate? LOL!

Exactly I say something based on how quick it affects the hormonal balance, sadly small minded people see the ester its attached to and think im talking about half lives and how long people think something kicks in based on A.R binding.
I didn't want to do this but hey... it will go over your heads.
Nandralone acts in a very unusual way to other steroids, it has pronounced neural affects which can cause depression anxiety and loss of libido very quickly because of its affects on affinity of the neurosteroids PS-3 and DHEAS at the sigma-1 site
Part of the reason for this is so to with steroid binding, deca can exert its affects by binding to other receptors, in this case the stigma-1 site and dhea site.
We all know what lowered DHEA can do, and how it affects us when its very low, Deca stops DHEA from working through binding to its target receptor.
This affects libido, in studies it takes less than 2 weeks to cause a very detrimental affect on neurosteroid receptors.
Dopamine receptors are another one it targets because it binds very quickly, and instead of being available, Nandrolone gets tied up with lots of hormonal changes in the system very quickly.
It has nothing to do with esters, but its affinity but you wont get that will you?

Expression of the dopamine D1-receptor transcript was elevated in the amygdala and decreased in the hippocampus while the transcript level of the dopamine D4-receptor was increased in the nucleus accumbens, This change especialy in the nucleus accumbens can cause a loss of pleasure, joy, stimulation and impulse, greatly affecting libido.

Simple solution is to prevent it doing these things, not by unbalancing your dopamine levels by taking Bromo or dostinex, and no need for arimidex with the doses your using, that will only lower estrogen which so you guys know doesn't do a great deal with deca bloat, deca acts itself as a progestin, run a deca only cycle and run a.dex, you will still get bloat, because its binding, unbind it and you wont need to worry.


Enjoy, that was for free x

Yawn.

 

[wootoom]

21 and using Deca is a pretty big mistake man


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[Zyglamail]

and no need for arimidex with the doses your using, that will only lower estrogen which so you guys know doesn't do a great deal with deca bloat,

I cant speak for anyone else but my reasoning behind using an AI are to keep E in the high normal range. Without an AI on his dose of test his E will be very elevated and there is no reason for it. On the contrary we see posts almost daily who read comments like your (ie thats its not needed), dont take an AI and now are crying they have gyno.

At the end of the day your on a cycle for what 12 weeks? Who the fuck cares about a little bloat? Its the feminization we want to control, controlling bloat, if its even an issue, is a side effect of trying to cycle safely by keeping what you can inline.

Personally I have no idea why this thread is still droning on, the kid had no business cycling since he is clearly clueless about the potential consequences and what to do about them.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I didn;t read the whole thread but the answer seems obvious. Don't do deca. What's so difficult to understand?

Get some Mucana puriens, UNLEASHED and PF POSTCYCLE and double dose for 2 weeks. You'll feel better.

 

[Russianstar]

Not doing deca would be best, from week 6 on an anti estrogen would be of great benefit as the above posts state.

I am sorry if I stood on anyones toes, The guys here have your best interest at heart, we all have different opinions.

Not doing deca is your best option.

 

[Russianstar]

I cant speak for anyone else but my reasoning behind using an AI are to keep E in the high normal range. Without an AI on his dose of test his E will be very elevated and there is no reason for it. On the contrary we see posts almost daily who read comments like your (ie thats its not needed), dont take an AI and now are crying they have gyno.

At the end of the day your on a cycle for what 12 weeks? Who the fuck cares about a little bloat? Its the feminization we want to control, controlling bloat, if its even an issue, is a side effect of trying to cycle safely by keeping what you can inline.

Personally I have no idea why this thread is still droning on, the kid had no business cycling since he is clearly clueless about the potential consequences and what to do about them.

I can agree with this.
But if he does carry on, he has been given the best advice I think.