combination of test e and deca cycle results

[George Mcardy]

guys
I just finished a cycle of 8 weeks of test e and deca 250 mg a day and I only gained 8 pounds, I have known guys that did exactly the same cycle and they put up 12-16 pounds of lean mass, My diet was good and I was training 4 days week, any idea guys what went wrong? do you think genes also have to do with how your body reacts to AAS?

 

[vexotex]

I'm right now on the same cycle but not on 1750 mg of Deca. That is crazy amount. I'm on 600 mg weekly and 500 mg of Test E. Fourth week. Already gained 10 pounds, but 10 pounds of what? I will do 6 weeks more and then I can judge was it a good cycle or not. This is my first Deca cycle. I have a feeling I will be a little bit disappointed.
Next time probably Deca and EQ together at 600 mg weekly each.


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[muskate]

Your dosages were on the low side. Most guys will run a test/deca cycle with test at 500mg/week and deca at 300mg/week.

That being said, a 8 pound gain in 8 weeks is a VERY productive cycle. Look at it this way. If you did 4 8 week cycles like that in a year, that would be 32 pounds of muscle!

Building muscle is a slow process. Even with the assistance of PEDs.

Keep at it buddy. It's like building a house. Brick by brick. Run a proper PCT (I recommend the perfect PCT protocol - https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/ ) and then do another cycle.

 

[stevesmi]

these types of questions are ridiculous

any skinny kid can hop on a bunch of wet compounds and put on 30 pounds of fat and water by eating like crazy with some lifting. but those types of 'gains' are phoney.

i would rather put on 2 pounds of pure muscle on a cycle that is actually real muscle mass, and lose fat and keep water minimized. that to me is way more successful

and to those who think i am wrong. well if you put on lets say 20 pounds per cycle. after 5 cycles you would put on 100 pounds, after 10 cycles you would put on 200 pounds. so i am not wrong. people who claim to put on 30 pounds of muscle on a cycle are full of shit. i'm not impressed by that one bit. not only did you just put on a bunch of fat and water, but you also wrecked your soft tissues and joints

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

The first problem with the cycle is that you only ran it for 8 weeks. Deca should be ran for 14 weeks to get the most out of it. You really left gains on the table. Did you run an AI and supports? You probably weren't eating enough either. Lots of factors could be in play here.

 

[vexotex]

After 5 weeks on Deca I still have strong libido and erection even though not taking Proviron or any DHT because of intolerance. I'm taking 0.25mg of Dostinex twice per week. Maybe that's why.
Now when I compare EQ/test cycle and Deca/test cycle (same mg), I'm quite happy with Deca because no sides. I started getting acnes on my back sooner than on EQ but that's it. I had serious issue with chronic inflamed forearms tendons but on Deca I can train without problems.
I'm more bloated in my cheeks than on EQ.


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[vexotex]

Also, on EQ I loose hair much faster than on Deca. On Deca I don't loose it at all.


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[Jay Scott]

guys
I just finished a cycle of 8 weeks of test e and deca 250 mg a day and I only gained 8 pounds, I have known guys that did exactly the same cycle and they put up 12-16 pounds of lean mass, My diet was good and I was training 4 days week, any idea guys what went wrong? do you think genes also have to do with how your body reacts to AAS?

A cycle of 8 weeks for test e and deca sounds wayy too short. You need to run it for 12-14 weeks at least.

What is more, I am pretty sure that you were undereating with your cycle. That is a very often case with most of the people. They do not eat enough and then complain that they did not gain enough.

 

[vexotex]

After 10 weeks Deca cycle, for how long more after last shot I have to take Dostinex?


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[muskate]

After 10 weeks Deca cycle, for how long more after last shot I have to take Dostinex?


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Deca has an extremely long half life - 15 days.

Generally speaking a steroid will still be active in your body 4x it's half life. i.e 15 x 4 = 60 days.

I would keep takin the dostinex for 2 months after your last injection but slowly taper down your dosage.

 

[vexotex]

Deca has an extremely long half life - 15 days.

Generally speaking a steroid will still be active in your body 4x it's half life. i.e 15 x 4 = 60 days.

I would keep takin the dostinex for 2 months after your last injection but slowly taper down your dosage.

Then when to start with Clomid and Nolvadex? Also, when to start taking HCG?


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[muskate]

Then when to start with Clomid and Nolvadex? Also, when to start taking HCG?


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Do some research on HCG and you will see it does more harm then good -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rd-hcg-49083.html?highlight=conflict+interest

Run the perfect PCT protocol exactly as laid out here -> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Since you used deca, simply add in a low dosage of cabergoline to the PCT outline.

I would also run the aromasin all 7 weeks and not just on weeks 3-7 since a test/deca cycle is very estrogenic.

 

[Jay Scott]

Then when to start with Clomid and Nolvadex? Also, when to start taking HCG?


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HCG needs to be taken either during the cycle, or not taken at all. Do not use it during your PCT.

As for caber question, I would use it for a bit longer and throughout the whole PCT and after it I would just taper it down

 

[vexotex]

HCG needs to be taken either during the cycle, or not taken at all. Do not use it during your PCT.

As for caber question, I would use it for a bit longer and throughout the whole PCT and after it I would just taper it down

Last 4 years since I've started cycling I've been using HCG during cycle to prevent shrinking my testicles and also for two first weeks immediately after last pin but before starting with Nolvadex and Clomid to put testicles in gear again while still cleaning myself of juice. It was always fine because I always make blood test for testosterone level every time before new cycle.
I understand what HCG does, it doesn't stimulate pituitary gland but only testicles.


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[vexotex]

Maybe I try this time with HCGenerate instead of HCG


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[vexotex]

Do some research on HCG and you will see it does more harm then good -> https://www.evolutionary.org/forums...rd-hcg-49083.html?highlight=conflict+interest

Run the perfect PCT protocol exactly as laid out here -> https://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/
Since you used deca, simply add in a low dosage of cabergoline to the PCT outline.

I would also run the aromasin all 7 weeks and not just on weeks 3-7 since a test/deca cycle is very estrogenic.

I've just ordered HCGenerate directly from Need to build muscle site.
I've ordered an ordinary HCGenerate, not an Extra Strong because first one costs 78$ and the ES costs 200$.
I'm from EU(Europe) so I need to pay international shipping 42$, 12% custom fee, and 25% tax.
Is Extra Strong worth that extra money?


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[muskate]

I've just ordered HCGenerate directly from Need to build muscle site.
I've ordered an ordinary HCGenerate, not an Extra Strong because first one costs 78$ and the ES costs 200$.
I'm from EU(Europe) so I need to pay international shipping 42$, 12% custom fee, and 25% tax.
Is Extra Strong worth that extra money?


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Both are really good options.

HCGenerate is like a Toyota Camry. Reliable and affordable. It'll do the job and get your from A to B.

HCGenerate ES is like a Mclaren F1. It's not necessarily needed to get you from A to B but it sure gets you there a lot faster then a Camry will.

 

[stevesmi]

I've just ordered HCGenerate directly from Need to build muscle site.
I've ordered an ordinary HCGenerate, not an Extra Strong because first one costs 78$ and the ES costs 200$.
I'm from EU(Europe) so I need to pay international shipping 42$, 12% custom fee, and 25% tax.
Is Extra Strong worth that extra money?


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the ES has a few more ingredients like mucuna which will inhibit prolactin. it also has more of the ingredients already in hcgenerate. in the old days guys would double dose hcgenerate because they wanted to be raging boners, thats why the ES version was invented.

 

[vexotex]

Both are really good options.

HCGenerate is like a Toyota Camry. Reliable and affordable. It'll do the job and get your from A to B.

HCGenerate ES is like a Mclaren F1. It's not necessarily needed to get you from A to B but it sure gets you there a lot faster then a Camry will.

[emoji3] really picturesque answer.
OK, I will just drive from A to B in Toyota


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[MasonicBodybuilder]

Yes, you will be fine with the regular version. Let us know how you like it.